Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
* martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060630 09:48]: He as a right to tell us his opinion! Don't censor him! Dude, if you aren't awake enough to spell properly, maybe you shouldn't be using a computer? Then I would never be allowed to use a computer any more, and the world have less to lough about ;) Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:08:30 +0200, Alexander wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060630 09:48]: He as a right to tell us his opinion! Don't censor him! Dude, if you aren't awake enough to spell properly, maybe you shouldn't be using a computer? Then I would never be allowed to use a computer any more, and the world have less to lough about ;) ..aye, a bayfull of water down your necks could wake a churchyardfull of people. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.01.2008 +0200]: Then I would never be allowed to use a computer any more, and the world have less to lough about ;) You pacifist attitude makes flamewars no fun. Maybe we should just use you as mitigator whenever things grow hot... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system die zeit für kleine politik ist vorbei. schon das nächste jahrhundert bringt den kampf um die erdherrschaft. - friedrich nietzsche signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
Martin Baehr wrote: you can't expect everyone else to keep track of your preference. we would end up with a situation where everyone needs to keep track of everyone elses preference Oh, my! I see a bright future where there's an LDAP entry with this info at db.debian.org and all email clients of the world honoring this preferences. /me drops dead -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enrico Zini wrote: [SCNR. Visual explanation for people who don't understand Italian: http://images.google.com/images?q=dito%20medio] I think it is highly irresponsible of you to fuel flamewars you started yourself with middle finger imagery. -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach Amaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.30.0911 +0200]: you can't expect everyone else to keep track of your preference. we would end up with a situation where everyone needs to keep track of everyone elses preference Oh, my! I see a bright future where there's an LDAP entry with this info at db.debian.org and all email clients of the world honoring this preferences. /me drops dead I specifically requested that you do not use IRC parlance in emails that I read. Damn it! Why don't you go outside and do something useful instead of pissing of everyone here? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system women, when they are not in love, have all the cold blood of an experienced attorney. -- honoré de balzac signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
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martin f krafft wrote: I specifically requested that you do not use IRC parlance in emails that I read. Damn it! Why don't you go outside and do something useful instead of pissing of everyone here? Stop the ad-hominem attacks or I will Cc you! -- .''`. Sometimes the littlest feet leave the biggest impressions : :' : `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach Amaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.30.0922 +0200]: I specifically requested that you do not use IRC parlance in emails that I read. Damn it! Why don't you go outside and do something useful instead of pissing of everyone here? Stop the ad-hominem attacks or I will Cc you! *plonk* (and I CC'd you twice just to show you that you have no chance) (mutt thinks it's smarter than me, thus you get one Cc and one To) (damn postfix is going to think it's smarter than me too) (if you complain any more, I will put you on Bcc too) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system the vast majority of our imports come from outside the country. - george w. bush signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
* Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060628 13:55]: ...just to see what happens... You can not tell us, voulunteers, what to do! Well, he can. But you should ignore him, and not continue the thread! He as a right to tell us his opinion! Don't censor him! Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
also sprach Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.30.0913 +0200]: He as a right to tell us his opinion! Don't censor him! Dude, if you aren't awake enough to spell properly, maybe you shouldn't be using a computer? kthxbye -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system funny how just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does. -- marvin signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, martin f krafft wrote: *plonk* *plink* Damn. I missed. *plink* Missed again. *BLMO* Hrm. Can't see downrange anymore. Don Armstrong -- Fate and Temperament are two words for one and the same concept. -- Novalis [Hermann Hesse _Demian_] http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 09:13:28AM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: Well, he can. But you should ignore him, and not continue the thread! He as a right to tell us his opinion! Don't censor him! freedom of speech is the right to publish your opinion, but not a right to be listened to. censoring is an act of preventing publication. ignoring is an act of not listening. maybe you should consult a dictionary. greetings, martin. ps: observe how this mail does not cc anyone because of the Mail-Followup-To: header in alexanders mail. -- cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix offering: programming, training and administration - anywhere in the world -- pike programmer travelling and working in europe open-steam.org unix system- bahai.or.atiaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at administrator (caudium|gotpike).org is.schon.org Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:39:12 -0700, Don wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, martin f krafft wrote: *plonk* *plink* Damn. I missed. *plink* Missed again. *BLMO* Hrm. Can't see downrange anymore. ..try climb up that glassy crater wall. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Martin, No, we (since we're said to be the same person) is actually two DD, not one. So stop complaining every day in my precious blog, okay? We is bitching almost as much as the ion author... best regards, Erich Schubert -- erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org)--GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ There was never a good war or a bad peace. - Benjamin Franklin //\ Die Mathematik muss man schon deswegen studieren, weil sie V_/_ die Gedanken ordnet. --- Michail Wassiljewitsch Lomonossow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:49:46PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.28.1946 +0200]: [1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so obviously his opinion doesn't count. I am a DD, and you are so unhip I wonder why you bum hasn't fallen ^ ITYM your off yet, you clodhopping klunkerhead. HTH, HAND etc, Neil -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li B345BDD3 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 09:14:48AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:49:46PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.28.1946 +0200]: [1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so obviously his opinion doesn't count. I am a DD, and you are so unhip I wonder why you bum hasn't fallen ^ ITYM your Hey man, this is rapper-english. Grammer don't count no. HTH, HAND etc, Dito. -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, Ashes to Ashes, stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 10:50:45AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 09:14:48AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:49:46PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.28.1946 +0200]: [1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so obviously his opinion doesn't count. I am a DD, and you are so unhip I wonder why you bum hasn't fallen ^ ITYM your Hey man, this is rapper-english. Grammer don't count no. HTH, HAND etc, Dito. You CC-ed me even though it's explicitly against list policy! I should start an expultions proceedure against you! Hyper-uber-Friendily, Neil -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li B345BDD3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 11:04:33AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: You CC-ed me even though it's explicitly against list policy! I should start an expultions proceedure against you! you get what you deserve if you can't even configure your mailcient right. mutt supports a Mail-FollowUp-To: header, which tells recipients how you want your replies. wouter uses mutt too, and you would not have received a CC from him had you set that header. (or from me now, for that matter) don't hide behind the list policy it. is your responsibility to tell everyone what your preference is. there are a number of people who require CCs to communicate with them over lists regardless of list policy (most notably joey) you can't expect everyone else to keep track of your preference. we would end up with a situation where everyone needs to keep track of everyone elses preference, so it makes more sense to turn the thing around and make everyone responsible for their own preference and for telling others about that. for those whose mailreaders do not support Mail-FollowUp-To: file a bug with upstream, and get them to fix that (or fix it yourself) greetings, martin. ps: i hope the tone matches the discussion and apologize if you perceive this as off topic ;-) -- cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix offering: programming, training and administration - anywhere in the world -- pike programmer travelling and working in europe open-steam.org unix system- bahai.or.atiaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at administrator (caudium|gotpike).org is.schon.org Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, On Thursday 29 June 2006 14:10, Martin Baehr wrote: right. mutt supports a Mail-FollowUp-To: header, which tells recipients that microsoftism! Mail-FollowUp-To: might work in mutt or outlook, but is no standard. use reply-to:!!!1 without regards, holger pgpYzxZrEW9hU.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 03:59:48PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Thursday 29 June 2006 14:10, Martin Baehr wrote: right. mutt supports a Mail-FollowUp-To: header, which tells recipients that microsoftism! actually, it's from many peoples favourite d. j. bernstein http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html Mail-FollowUp-To: might work in mutt or outlook it works on outlook? that would be surprising. but is no standard. use reply-to:!!!1 then lets make it a standard. reply-to breaks to many things, greetings, martin. ps: fortunately mutt can be told to ignore reply-to that points to lists. -- cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix offering: programming, training and administration - anywhere in the world -- pike programmer travelling and working in europe open-steam.org unix system- bahai.or.atiaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at administrator (caudium|gotpike).org is.schon.org Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, On Thursday 29 June 2006 16:15, Martin Baehr wrote: ps: fortunately mutt can be told to ignore reply-to that points to lists. So it was you who intentionally decided to ignore the code of conduct of this list and put me in CC: ?!! regards, Holger pgpSJg4m3e3iM.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 6/28/06, Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...just to see what happens... You can not tell us, voulunteers, what to do! -- Best regards, Aigars Mahinovsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #--# | .''`. Debian GNU/Linux LAKA | |: :' : http://www.debian.orghttp://www.laka.lv | |`. `' | | `- | #--# :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:19:22PM +0100, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 6/28/06, Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...just to see what happens... You can not tell us, voulunteers, what to do! Well, he can. But you should ignore him, and not continue the thread! -- Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta| Formación, consultoría y soporte técnico agi@(inittab.org|debian.org)| en GNU/Linux y software libre Encrypted mail preferred| http://inittab.com Key fingerprint = 9782 04E7 2B75 405C F5E9 0C81 C514 AF8E 4BA4 01C3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:19:22PM +0100, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 6/28/06, Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...just to see what happens... You can not tell us, voulunteers, what to do! i would be inclined to point out that enrico is merely making a polite request, as is common in the free software community. he is not telling you what to do. however, pointing that out could be construed as flaming you, and as i have already had the opportunity to meet enrico in person, and found that he is a nice guy, i prefer follow his request and avoid dragging this into a flamewar, by not writing this message. you are not reading this... greetings, martin. -- cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix offering: programming, training and administration - anywhere in the world -- pike programmer travelling and working in europe open-steam.org unix system- bahai.or.atiaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at administrator (caudium|gotpike).org is.schon.org Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:50:06AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: ...just to see what happens... NOTHING is happening! This is all UNREAL! And I am NOT going to follow UP! -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, Ashes to Ashes, stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:21:31PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:50:06AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: ...just to see what happens... NOTHING is happening! This is all UNREAL! And I am NOT going to follow UP! Good, that Enrico bloke is a well known troll. He tries to prevent anyone from doing any real work by introducing them to time-rootkits, such as 'polygen' and 'atc'. Neil -- #: name host game time real time planes safe -- 1: maulkin stilton default 1089 48:3884 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
Scripsit Martin Bähr [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:19:22PM +0100, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 6/28/06, Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...just to see what happens... You can not tell us, voulunteers, what to do! i would be inclined to point out that enrico is merely making a polite request, as is common in the free software community. Whatever. If you or Enrico are unhappy with our procedures for scheduling flamewars you [1] welcome to propose a GR changing them. Otherwise kindly quit whining. [1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so obviously his opinion doesn't count. -- Henning Makholm Dylle skød en stegepande. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.28.1946 +0200]: [1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so obviously his opinion doesn't count. I am a DD, and you are so unhip I wonder why you bum hasn't fallen off yet, you clodhopping klunkerhead. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system most people become bankrupt through having invested too heavily in the prose of life. to have ruined one's self over poetry is an honour. -- oscar wilde signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
