Re: upload directory

1995-12-07 Thread Ian Murdock
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 23:03 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) Please do not start uploading to ftp.debian.org again until Ian Murdock says it's OK. He's probably going to want to copy the files over from ftp.pixar.com and so on before he's ready for new uploads. Yes. I

fixed: ange-ftp doesn't set TERM=dumb in inner shell

1995-12-07 Thread Austin Donnelly
I send off a bug report against emacs to the emacs maintainers, and got a patch back. Here's my report, and the patch, delimited by =-=-=-=-= lines Austin =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Austin Donnelly) Newsgroups:

Re: Building ncurses...a couple of questions...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Raul Miller wrote: I wasn't thinking about anything specific... I was just worrying about potential configurations with no /usr partition. I probably shouldn't have even mailed the original message. No, I think it's a valid question to bring up---I was just confused about

Bug#1205: compiling strace

1995-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Hello! Compiling strace with newer kernel sources is not so difficult as the bug reports from Ray Dassen suggest. Starting with the strace source as found on sunsite's devel/strace diff --recursive strace-3.0/syscall.c strace-new/syscall.c 35a36,41 #ifdef LINUX #define __KERNEL__ #include

Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: Michael Alan Dorman writes (Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool): Try doing a --purge first. I was having a similar problem and that solved it. I just assumed it was my system, but apparently not. ??? I'm very puzzled. Sorry, looking back over

Re: Building ncurses...a couple of questions...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, J.H.M.Dassen wrote: I don't see the necessity of this. Take bash for instance: it uses readline, which uses ncurses. Taking this to its logical absurdity, we get: Let's just require that everything be on one big hard drive so it's all in the root partition so we don't have

Bug#1986: stdio broken? Strange behaviour of fgets() and scanf()

1995-12-07 Thread Stephen Early
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, brian (b.c.) white wrote: for (ksnum=0; 1; c=fgets(buf,sizeof(buf),stdin)) { The third thing in the for structure only gets executed at end of the loop. 'c' thus has an undefined value on the first iteration which just happened to be NULL for you (hence the (nil)

Re: re:-O2 or -O3 ?

1995-12-07 Thread brian (b.c.) white
I'm surprised that [-O3] make a 20% increase in code size, especially for the probably negligible performance improvement. [...] The bottom line is, unless your function is _very_ short (a few lines, max, with no loops) in probably should _not_ be inline. It sounds like the GCC heuristic

Bug#1986: stdio broken? Strange behaviour of fgets() and scanf()

1995-12-07 Thread Stephen Early
Maybe that's it. Maybe 'fgets' is interfering with how scanf works. Does it still fail if you remove the 'fgets' from the for loop? Yes, it still fails. I tried removing the #define from the start of the string to be matched, though, and it no longer fails. OTOH, the original program (which is

Re: Bug#1978: man: default pager should be less

1995-12-07 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : Something ought to be done though, since more(1) can't be made to go : backwards through manpages. This is rather a serious deficiency. : HP-UX's more(1) doesn't allow you to go back at all. Ever. :) Until HP-UX 10.X, at which point it has very less-ish

Unidentified subject!

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: So far I have been unable to find a copy of the patch that lets you fall back to another directory. However, support is already in there to allow I don't know that the patch even exists anymore. However, a quick and dirty hack is only a two line

Re: dselect user interface (was Re: Bug#1959: binutils desc should says its necessary for gcc)

1995-12-07 Thread Richard Kettlewell
That's right. I need someone to design a completely different user interface for the package selection function in dselect. The current list interface will survive and just have - wizard mode tacked onto the menu item. Most people will use - normal mode or whatever we decide to call it. I

Bug#1987: No information on how to get started

1995-12-07 Thread Thomas König
Looking at the Debian directory at my local mirror, I do not find any information on how to install Debian onto a system. There is no informantion in any of the README* files in the main directory, and only a passing reference in the FAQ (where there is some talk about rootdisks and bootdisks,

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread David Engel
OK, here's what I think I've come up with: ncurses-runtime: shared libraries (in /lib) looks for files first in /etc/terminfo then /usr/lib/terminfo has linux as compiled in fall-back. terminfo manipulation programs man pages for the programs

Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool

1995-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Alan Dorman writes (Re: Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool): I had cdtool-1.0-3 installed. I did a 'dpkg --install cdtool-1.0-4'. Tried to run one of the cdtool programs --- it wasn't there. Reinstalled. Still wasn't there. Grabbed a copy of -3 and installed that. _Still_ wasn't

Re: right place for wtmp?

1995-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
brian white writes on debian-user: [someone wrote:] Btw, uucp coming with debian has /usr/spool/uucp compiled in, shouldn't this be /var/spool/uucp? /usr/spool is a symlink to /var/spool. Nevertheless, UUCP should look in /var. Should we report this as a bug ? Ian.

Bug#1205: compiling strace

1995-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Wichert Akkerman writes (Bug#1205: compiling strace): Compiling strace with newer kernel sources is not so difficult as the bug reports from Ray Dassen suggest. Starting with the strace source as found on sunsite's devel/strace diff --recursive strace-3.0/syscall.c strace-new/syscall.c

Re: -O2 or -O3 ?

1995-12-07 Thread Michael E. Deisher
On Thu, 7 Dec 95 19:36 GMT, Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does anyone disagree with Brian White ? If not I'll change the guidelines back to recommending -O2. I don't disagree with Brian but am not sure he's adequately proven his point. He's only told us about what he found when

Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool

1995-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Alan Dorman writes (Re: Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool): I'll see if I can re-create it. I'll mention that I _may_ have done the first installation of cdtool with 1.0.6, but then you warned people away from it and I grabbed 1.0.7, which is what I was using when I could not

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: That all sounds reasonable. I take it that the terminfo manipulation programs and the manpages are small enough that having them installed on every system is not a problem (ncurses-runtime will be an essential package). Actually, they're going into a

Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: That sounds like the same bug. I'm worried about it, but I don't have enough to go on. I'll see if I can re-create it. I'll mention that I _may_ have done the first installation of cdtool with 1.0.6, but then you warned people away from it and I grabbed

Re: -O2 or -O3 ?

1995-12-07 Thread brian (b.c.) white
Does anyone disagree with Brian White ? If not I'll change the guidelines back to recommending -O2. I don't disagree with Brian but am not sure he's adequately proven his point. He's only told us about what he found when compiling afio. I didn't find it. I was just commenting on, and

Re: re:-O2 or -O3 ?

1995-12-07 Thread behan (b.) webster
Note that -O2 is the highest form of optimization that does not trade off space for speed. Since Linux is sometimes run on machines with very tight memory/disk constraints, then trading off significant space (20%) for insignificant speed (10%) is, IMO, not worth it. Measuring speed

Towards support for S/Key

1995-12-07 Thread Patrick Weemeeuw
A common source of security problems is often that each service uses its own protocol and code for authentication (ftpd, telnetd, rlogind, login, popd, ...). Besides the inconsistent user interface, this also introduces many oportunities for security holes. This holds in particular for public

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread roro
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: ncurses2-1.9.7a-1.deb will be the shared library package. It is ncurses2 because the major portion of the soname is 2. It will depend on libc5 and ncurses-base. Done. Is it necessary or appropriate to have ncurses-dev be ncurses2-dev?

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Jeff Noxon
ncurses-developer: static, debugging and profiling libraries (all in /usr/lib) Do we really need/want debugging and profiling libraries? No other packages currently provide these. I think the debug libraries, at least, are very useful to have. This is a package for developers, after

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: ncurses-term-1.9.7a-1.deb will contain the monolithic set of terminfo files. It depends on the lockstep revision of ncurses-base (since we might move a few more things out of term and into base as they seem appropriate -- getting out of sync might

Re: -O2 or -O3 ?

1995-12-07 Thread Jeff Noxon
Does anyone disagree with Brian White ? If not I'll change the guidelines back to recommending -O2. I don't disagree with Brian but am not sure he's adequately proven his point. He's only told us about what he found when compiling afio. Wouldn't it be wise to compare -O2 to -O3 on

Bug#1931: less doesn'

1995-12-07 Thread Mark Nudelman
Bill, Thanks for sending the info on the two fixes you made in less-290. I don't quite understand the purpose of the first one. You said: In screen.c, it's presumed that dumb terminals have termcap capabilities. This isn't necessarily true. I added the #ifdef DEBIAN block below to stop a

GCC/binutils shared library search changes?

1995-12-07 Thread Stephen Early
Was either GCC or binutils (whichever is appropriate) changed between gcc-2.7.0-2 and gcc-2.7.2-1 or binutils-2.5.2l.20-2 and binutils-2.6-1 so that it won't find ELF shared libraries with names like libX11.so.6.0, only libraries with names like libX11.so? I ask because X has suddenly started

Re: GCC/binutils shared library search changes?

1995-12-07 Thread David Engel
Was either GCC or binutils (whichever is appropriate) changed between gcc-2.7.0-2 and gcc-2.7.2-1 or binutils-2.5.2l.20-2 and binutils-2.6-1 so that it won't find ELF shared libraries with names like libX11.so.6.0, only libraries with names like libX11.so? Yes, ld (part of binutils) was

Bug#1931: less doesn'

1995-12-07 Thread Bill Mitchell
On 7 Dec 1995, Mark Nudelman wrote: Bill, Thanks for sending the info on the two fixes you made in less-290. I don't quite understand the purpose of the first one. You said: In screen.c, it's presumed that dumb terminals have termcap capabilities. This isn't necessarily true. I added