shells (was Re: IP-aliasing)

1996-08-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Emilio Lopes wrote: CS == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CS I'd like to see a bourne-like shell with perl-like regexp stuff CS (mainly sed grep) built in - i'd switch to that in a flash. People may say it's called ksh93. IMHO, it may seem somewhat

debiandoc-sgml 1.0.3: actually formats documents

1996-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Grr, I screwed up the SGML entity catalogue handling so the last version wouldn't work at all unless you happened to be in a directory with a few particular files. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 02:30:24 +0100 Source: debiandoc-sgml Binary: debiandoc-sgml

Re: Conversion procedure for new source packages DRAFT

1996-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
I wrote: This is my first draft of a quick document saying how to convert an old to a new source package. DO NOT DO ANYTHING YET except read this and suggest amendments. I've thought of something to add to this list: * Check that the description is well-formatted and meaningful and

Re: Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian C. White writes (Re: Emacs per-package startup files): ... [someone:] So, do these files go in /var/lib/emacs, /etc/emacs, or /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp, and why? I can set it up and send changes to the emacs package maintainers this weekend if that gets worked out... I'd vote for

Bug#3952: Less annoyances

1996-08-12 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Christoph Lameter wrote:' A wish because of the heavy usage of gzipped files under debian: - Add functionality for less to automatically recognize a gzipped file and view it correctly without having to resort to zless. I have code for that (or you can use most): First set some environment

Re: des encryption..

1996-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Re: des encryption.. ): Ian Jackson writes: Also I propose to mandate in the policy manual that packages which use /opt should provide appropriate links or files in /opt/{bin,lib,man,include,info,doc} and that packages which search paths must look in /opt too.

Bug#4107: emacs leaves stale lockfiles and publishes pathnames

1996-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: emacs Version: 19.29-3 My /var/lib/emacs/lock directory contains many old lock files. I'm quite happy to believe that the occasional leftover lock is unavoidable, but steps should be taken to clean them up. Furthermore, all the pathnames for the lockfiles are world-readable. This is

Re: Caldera's lawsuit against Microsoft

1996-08-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm just posting here on what's really an irrelevant topic to say that I think it's a very good thing that someone is challenging Microsoft. The terms of the suit require MS to give _Caldera_ details of APIs. Not the general public, just Caldera. MS can

Re: Debian, Linux, the FSSTND, the FHS and BSD

1996-08-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I lost this argument, chiefly through a combination of poor politics on my part Ian, Don't feel bad that you're not good at politics yet - with my 39th birthday approaching I'm only just beginning to understand it. If you feel you've lost arguments through

Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The thing is that I think we need to be able to distribute other [documentation] end-products [than HTML]. HTML is bad for printing, for example, and not ideal if you have a slow machine. Choice is a good thing. Do you have a proposal? I'm not trying to

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-12 Thread Bruce Perens
Miquel: If they don't react [to the request to convert to the new source package] in say 2 weeks, someone else can do it (I'll take some) like David did during the transition from a.out to ELF. Thanks for volunteering! Please make sure to merge the multi-architecture patches while you do that.

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-12 Thread Bruce Perens
Ian Jackson: Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as described in the draft dpkg programmers' manual, the draft Debian policy manual and as implemented by dpkg 1.3.x, will become official. I delegate

Bug#4118: xosview doesn't use XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

1996-08-12 Thread Herbert Xu
Package: xosview Version: 1.3.2-6 The program doesn't access the directories listed in XUSERFILESEARCHPATH but it does read the default file in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults.

Re: Debian, Linux, the FSSTND, the FHS and BSD

1996-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
Ian Jackson writes: The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements: * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail. * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it). * /var/lib/games is

Bug#3961: 14 character file name limit in zoo

1996-08-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Good morning Carl! }Package: zoo }Version: 2.10-1 } }Zoo seems to have some 14 character filename limits, even though the ext2 }filesystem doesn't have such a limit. I can store long filenames, but }an extract seems to truncate the name at 14 characters. I have an a.out }version that doesn't

Bug#4118: xosview doesn't use XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

1996-08-12 Thread joost witteveen
Package: xosview Version: 1.3.2-6 The program doesn't access the directories listed in XUSERFILESEARCHPATH but it does read the default file in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults. I know, it's a horrible programme, isn't it. Any suggestions about what I can do about this -- it's really not just

Bug#3185: NCR SCSI 810 support lacking in bootdisks

1996-08-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Good morning pieterb! }I came to the same conclusion while upgrading my Linux system to }Debian 1.1.2. I also must say that the special-kernel directory in the Debian/stable }directory is a mess in most ftp directories (even in ftp.debian.org). } }Can you send me info if NCR SCSI 810 support is

Bug#4049: access permissions for sysklogd

1996-08-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Good morning Daniel! }/sbin/klogd and /sbin/syslogd should be 755. Why? I don't see any reason they should be executable by everyone. I have copied those permissions from my predecessor and I agree to them. }/usr/doc/sysklogd should be 644. Oups, sure. Will be fixed. Regards, Joey

Re: Releases other than by the package maintainert

1996-08-12 Thread branderh
(b) that the non-usual-maintainer releases should use a particular revision format: eg, hello-1.3-8 would become hello-1.3-8.1. Seems very right to me. But I would like to add the following to it. When mainstream is updated, hello-1.3 - hello-1.4 Non-usual-maintainer updates,

Re: sysv `news' package is unclear

1996-08-12 Thread Dominik Kubla
No, i mean sysnews. For two reasons: a) it is not sysv specific (you will find it on *bsd as well) b) thats how the package used to be called before i renamed it to news Later, Dominik

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Bruce Perens) wrote: Miquel: If they don't react [to the request to convert to the new source package] in say 2 weeks, someone else can do it (I'll take some) like David did during the transition from a.out to ELF. Thanks for volunteering! Please make sure to merge the

Bug#3961: 14 character file name limit in zoo

1996-08-12 Thread branderh
As zoo comes from DOS I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to support long filenames. If this is a valid argument for you you might restrict to 8.3 . E

Re: Debian, Linux, the FSSTND, the FHS and BSD

1996-08-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Michael Meskes) wrote: Ian Jackson writes: The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements: * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail. * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes,

modules_2.0.0-8

1996-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Date: 12 Aug 96 10:47 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: modules Version: 2.0.0-8 Binary: modules Architecture: i386 source Description: modules: Linux module utilities. Changes: modules

Shared library dependencies revisited

1996-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Please read the proposal below and comment on it. If noone says anything I'll probably implement and mandate something very like it in the next week or two, in time for the new source package format (we only want to change this once). Now is the time to have your say. I've been thinking about

Bug#4119: chgrp not detecting error, causing unpredictable results

1996-08-12 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
Package: fileutils Version: 3.13-1 When running chgrp as root, no errors or warnings are given when the group doesn't exist (e.g. when accidently using chown's user.group syntax), but the group is changed to a nearly unpredictable value. Script started on Sat Aug 10 15:36:27 1996 zensunni root

Bug#4076: shadow-package (not a deb-format-archive)

1996-08-12 Thread Michael Gaertner
On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: Michael Gaertner writes (Bug#4076: shadow-package (not a deb-format-archive)): Package: shadow Version: 960530-1 with dpkg 1.2.13elf: ./shadow_960530-1_i386.deb prints: dpkg-deb: 'shadow...' is not a debian format archive Did you

metamail_2.7-5

1996-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Date: 12 Aug 96 10:49 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: metamail Version: 2.7-5 Binary: metamail Architecture: i386 source Description: metamail: An implementation of MIME. Changes:

New Ical Package

1996-08-12 Thread David Engel
Date: 12 Aug 96 15:25 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: ical Version: 2.0p2-2 Binary: ical Architecture: i386 source Description: ical: An X11/Tk Calendar application - Some of Ical's important features are --- - * Items

Bug#4120: rdist ssh

1996-08-12 Thread Patrick Weemeeuw
Package: netstd Version: 2.06-1 Currently the netstd package contains rdist version 6.1. Could this please be upgraded to version 6.1.1 or 6.1.2, so that it works with ssh? Thanks. -- From the ssh FAQ: 4.4 Can I use rdist

Re: Debian, Linux, the FSSTND, the FHS and BSD

1996-08-12 Thread Dan Stromberg
Ian Jackson wrote: The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements: * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail. This is a positive thing. Both SVR4 and BSD 4.4 put it here. I think any

Re: Caldera's lawsuit against Microsoft

1996-08-12 Thread Brian C. White
The terms of the suit require MS to give _Caldera_ details of APIs. Not the general public, just Caldera. MS can still keep them under non-disclosure, and Caldera would have to honor the terms of an NDA approved by the court. I noticed this too. It could just be necessary to make the lawsuit

Re: Shared library dependencies revisited

1996-08-12 Thread Maarten Boekhold
I propose the following arrangement (if you don't understand things you should read dpkg-source(1) and the relevant parts of the new programmers' manual): Every package which contains compiled binaries invokes, in its debian/rules, a program which automatically determines what the

Re: search engines

1996-08-12 Thread Brian C. White
I've been thinking about what you said regarding search engines for debiandoc. As I understand it, this is to be a debian package, is it not? At least Debian. I won't get upset if someone ports it to Red Hat, Slackware, *BSD*, or a Cray... :-) Cray Linux. I've heard somebody is