Previously Randolph Chung wrote:
fetchmail can also be kereberized via compile time flags, and i know of a
number of people who would be interested in seeing a kerberized fetchmail.
Same for ssh. A pam_kerberos also exists I think.
Wichert.
--
Previously Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
The first part was easy (if I got it right, that is), that's just a small
patch to /etc/X11/Xsession.
Isn't is easier have some small script check the list of available
window managers and offer to create/update the users .xsession? This
sounds much more
Previously Ben Pfaff wrote:
22. Localization: text which will be visible to the user should never be
embedded within the source code. All string literals should be placed in a
separate header file to ease the pain of possible future translation.
That is not the Unix style. Unix is
Previously Amy Fong wrote:
You basically wind up with something like this in many instances:
IntelligenceFactor::AnswerIterator::const_iterator(vectorstring v,
vectorint::iterator
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 06:30:49PM -0400, Amy Fong wrote:
Exactly what is Hungarian notation? I think that it's where you basically
encode the datatype into the variable name, like lszVariable and so on,
like Microsoft are so fond of in the Windows API. Is that correct?
Yup. So you'll have
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:02:26PM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote:
More importantly, the boot-floppies need quite a bit of work for
potato; Linux 2.2.x is too large for the rescue/drivers system, and
glibc 2.1 broke our library reduction hack.
Now
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:31:32PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now that's a good reason. Is there a plan for this? Is any help
needed/desired?
Everyone is welcome. Join [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I notice that this list isn't listed on the mailing list page
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:
Brandon Mitchell wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
pretty easy: every recent graphic card is pci or agp, so it's detected
as
pci device and listed in the /proc file...
From what I understand, this would only
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
I suppose that we could go to a
release candidate model during the freeze, but that's something for another
discussion.
Of course, until we discuss this, we're doomed to perpetuation of the current,
incredibly broken freeze process. [shudder]
Not that
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Since the sources include an explicit copyright assertion but no explicit
distribution license
The upstream maintainers indicate in email that the GPL is their choice, which
is wonderful news. Now that this is resolved, I'll upload a package to main
*- On 8 May, Brandon Mitchell wrote about Re: Corel Setup Design Proposal
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:
Brandon Mitchell wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
pretty easy: every recent graphic card is pci or agp, so it's detected
as
pci device
John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Re: boot floppies and QT2. I guess there is no way around except to
try to ask the boot floppies authors to include an exception clause. If they
do not want to do this, it will have to be gtk or the framebuffer gui (I
know nothing about this last
14. Compilation conditionals, with the exception of debug code noted above,
should be avoided since they make the source code difficult to read and
maintain. Old or unwanted code should be deleted from the source files prior
to check-in. Source safes history feature can be used to retrieve an
15. Duplicate blocks of code should be avoided. If the same code is needed
in more than one location, place it in a separate function and call it from
where ever it's needed.
Oh, forgot to mention in the last email: it's sometimes wasteful of
resources or just really inconvenient to do this if
7. Comments : Please comment your code, it makes everyone's life easier.
Comment major
It would be extremely interesting and valuable if the code were to be
written using a Literate Programming tool. It takes a bit longer to
write, but in my little experience of using such things, the results
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:32:05PM -0500, Brian Servis wrote:
Many modern monitors are 'plug-n-play'. I don't know how it all works
but they are able to tell the video card/drivers what frequencies they
support, etc. 'Plug-n-play' could be tried first, then either ask or
guess conservative.
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 03:07:44AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
7. Comments : Please comment your code, it makes everyone's life easier.
Comment major
Have a look at the comp.programming.literate newsgroup, and probably
Levy/Knuth's CWEB or Marc van Leeuwen's CWEBx. (I can give you URLs
for
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I for one like what I see so far. I want to encourage Corel to
improve Debian setup. I hope that you can either commit directly to
the debian boot-floppies or at least start a world-readable cvs tree
of your own. That way everyone will be able to look at
Brent Fulgham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IBM has released their DB2 database for Linux. I just got a CD from them in
the mail, and
since I am playing with it a bit for work, I thought I would write an
install script for it.
Please please please write an installer package for DB2 on Linux!
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:35:01PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 05:57:15PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
I disagree. One of the major complaints I get about Debian by
colleagues is that its Perl is out of date. We should at the
very least update to the latest 5.004
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:41:09PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:34:33PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Argh. I've been waiting (and have put a major project on hold) for the
past
half year. I can't afford to wait much longer.
What do you need
Package: www.debian.org
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:31:32PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now that's a good reason. Is there a plan for this? Is any help
needed/desired?
Everyone is welcome. Join [EMAIL
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:28:33PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
The major complaint I hear is that debian takes too long between
releases.
FWIW, I've never heard this. The major complaints I hear about Debian is
that dpkg is buggy, and that packages in unstable occassionally suck.
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:28:33PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:35:01PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 05:57:15PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
I disagree. One of the major complaints I get about Debian by
colleagues is that its
Wichert == Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember that the person who is most qualified to test any
piece of code is the person who wrote it.
Wichert I can argue about that. But I won't :)
I can I will. :)
The person who wrote the code is almost always the *least*
On my potato system, I see a segmentation fault, before something is coming up:
$ mozilla
nsComponentManager: Using components dir: /usr/lib/mozilla/components
nsComponentManager: Creating Directory /home/rami/rainer/.mozilla
Registered Ok
*** The NEW and Improved Mime being registered
width
On Sun, 09 May, 1999, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
Hi everyone, I am a member of Debian JP.
xfig and transfig (fig2dev) are compiled with correct
option for I18N in those Imakefiles like
#define I18N
but unfortunately there still remain some problems to use
Japanese.
I found that these
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Amy Fong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These coding guidelines [...]
are Corel Linux's coding guidelines. I should point out that there are
at least _three_ such documents:
Corel C++ Guidelines version [number] [date]
Corel Coding Standards version
19. Comparisons for equality against a constant value should list the
constant value first. Its easy to miss one of the equals signs - this way
the compiler will catch it if you do.
eg. if (-1 == m_nResult) rather than if (m_nResult == -1)
This isn't the only instance of Corel forcing the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 9 May 1999 05:29:53 -0400, Zygo Blaxell wrote:
It would appear that this rule combined with the 78-column line length is
designed to make all functions fit on a single page of printed paper. This
is a completely arbitrary decision (why 78? Why not
At 21:17 -0400 1999-05-07, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:27:25PM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote:
At 13:58 -0700 1999-05-07, Chris Waters wrote:
#ifndef DEFAULT_CONFIG_X_SERVER
# ifdef __i386__
# define DEFAULT_CONFIG_X_SERVER XF86_VGA16
# else
# define DEFAULT_CONFIG_X_SERVER
Zygo Blaxell wrote:
10. Function/method size: bigger is not better. Functions and methods shoul
d
be kept to a maximum of 40-50 lines. Larger methods should be broken down
into several smaller methods.
It would appear that this rule combined with the 78-column line length is
On May 07, Joel Klecker wrote:
Let me just add that I am aware that the folks who work on the Red
Hat-derived powerpc Linux dist have xconfigurator sorta working with
XF68_FBDev.
Jes Sorensen, who did an unofficial Red Hat port for Linux/m68k,
reports a working Xconfigurator with the FBDev
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk wrote:
Zygo Blaxell wrote:
10. Function/method size: bigger is not better. Functions and methods shoul
d
be kept to a maximum of 40-50 lines. Larger methods should be broken down
into several smaller methods.
It would
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Zygo Blaxell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm...somehow I dropped this text about checking things into a source
repository:
Many open-source projects do have public CVS repositories but
generally do not liberally hand out write access to them. To
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
19. Comparisons for equality against a constant value should list the
constant value first. Its easy to miss one of the equals signs - this way
the compiler will catch it if you do.
eg. if (-1 == m_nResult) rather than if
Jonathan Walther writes:
No. Consider the case of America and Canada. They share 5
timezones between them, but differ in the default dictionaries that
are appropriate. Too much work for too little gain. However, if
you make a nice patch and submit it to the maintainer of the
dictionary
On Sun, 09 May 1999, Edward Betts wrote:
xfig and transfig maintainer here.
I am not really sure what the question is, but as the poster points
out, there are unfixed bugs for xfig and transfig. I have exams
coming up (it is that time of year again). I can work on Debian
after June, but I
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 05:23:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Also, FWIW, my major complaint about the release process is that we
spend far too much time in `freeze'. Shortening the freeze is one way
to fix this, although I, personally, don't think any of this `just wait
until next time!' is
Jonathan Walther writes:
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
3. A lot of the Emacs packages spend ages byte-compiling various
files during the install. Given that the results might well never be
used this seems rather wasteful. Also it's quite time-consuming, even
on a fast
Meanwhile, I've identified the following additional packages which can
be Kerberized immediately via compile-time flags:
IMAP (get your mail from the site you expected; prevent snooping)
LPRNG (network print to the site you expected; prevent interceptions)
POSTGRES (grant access
Branden Robinson writes:
The sad thing is, it's not necessary to ask this at all.
[...]
Please file a bug against any package that asks you to choose between mono
and color app-defaults files, and include this mail in it if you want.
OK, I've submitted bug reports against xftpd and
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:22:49AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
snip
I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
needed to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
No, thats /not/ what we (Though
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
IMHO we should not freeze until we have a number of things working,
including fully functional boot disks, a cdrom generation setup, etc..
I agree with this. These are important things, and you can't do a dist
without them. Perl
On 9 May, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
On my potato system, I see a segmentation fault, before something is coming
up:
I see the same.
--
John Travers
Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the
universe is that none of it has tried to contact us!
That's all fine, but did we ever find out if someone were crazy enough to
pay for the PnP monitor specs (wasn't it $300 or so?) that an
implementation could be done and properly documented source released?
Reverse engineering this just does not sound like fun.
From my limited understanding
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
IMHO we should not freeze until we have a number of things working,
including fully functional boot disks, a cdrom generation setup, etc..
At the moment our release method is slow, we have tried simple ways to
speed things
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 11:27:49PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 02:10:27AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
PROPOSAL
(1) That section 3.1 of the policy be rewritten replacing every
reference to FSSTND by the equivalent reference to FHS.
(2) That a
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 11:27:49PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 02:10:27AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
PROPOSAL
(1) That section 3.1 of the policy be rewritten replacing every
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 01:37:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Or Norman Ramsey's NoWeb, which also has a large following and is language
independent.
... or write in Haskell, which has standard support for literate
programming ;-)
# apt-get install hugs98 -- the Haskell User's Gofer
Brandon Mitchell wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
I think this is a very difficult point, how do you plan to solve this,
c
hoose
the right Xserver and XF86Config file for the users system ? Or do you
p
lan
to use the fbdev server ? i
I maintain package xfonts-latin2-biznet.
I think about change of package name. Maybe xfonts-biznet-iso8859-2 will be
better?
My proposition for any font package:
xfonts-producer-codepage-size
What about font package names? There is a lot of different
fonts and good scheme would be helpful.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zygo Blaxell) writes:
This really just defers answering the question, though.
Why 78 characters per line of code?
Because the laser printer wants that.
I tend to think of it more like email -- Why 72 chars per line? To
leave room for quoting in 80 columns.
*Michael Stone wrote:
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
IMHO we should not freeze until we have a number of things working,
including fully functional boot disks, a cdrom generation setup, etc..
I agree with this. These are important things, and you can't
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suggest, therefore, that the install-time byte-compilation of elisp
files be either eliminated completely, or turned into an option, with
the default set to off.
I *strongly* oppose eliminating it, and I'm not real big on the idea
of making the default be off.
My take on the situation is that there are two reasons for why the
freeze takes a long time. The first is just fixing the release
critical bugs -- this commonly receives a lot of attention from this
list. The second is coordination between all the elements which are
required for release
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 07:57:58PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:32:05PM -0500, Brian Servis wrote:
Many modern monitors are 'plug-n-play'. I don't know how it all works
but they are able to tell the video card/drivers what frequencies they
support, etc.
Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember that the person who is most qualified to test any
piece of code is the person who wrote it.
Wichert I can argue about that. But I won't :)
I can I will. :)
The person who wrote the code is almost always the *least* qualified
[Talking about tasks and profile from boot-floppies]
brandon == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
brandon I'd personally like to see a way to easily add a profile via
brandon dpkg -get-selections and make for a cookie cutter install
brandon (think large labs).
Eh... I don't see this
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 05:29:53AM -0400, Zygo Blaxell wrote:
If you disagree with or don't understand the reasoning behind any of the
following guidelines, you are encouraged to discuss your concerns with your
project leader.
Well, I did--last week, I was dumb enough to write [the Corel
What if a package is installed, and puts a script in a run-parts
directory or into a .d directory, but isn't configured due to a
missing dependancy? The newbie sysadmin doesn't know to look for
it, and leaves it there, then gets email from cron. Per sends off a
tech support question.
This
Randolph Chung wrote:
The VESA PnD (plug and display) specs can be downloaded from the VESA web
site (http://www.vesa.org/pnd.pdf). A cursory flip through the specs seem to
indicate that it will indeed provide video timing (as well as other
interesting pieces of) information about your display
Chris Waters writes:
I *strongly* oppose eliminating it, and I'm not real big on the idea
of making the default be off. Installing new packages takes a
while, I don't mind a few extra moments there. I *do* mind run-time
delays, even if they're small,
There is always a delay; this is
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 03:43:58PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Looking back at the slink freeze, I think we had two big problems
which slowed us down by about a month: new X Window System packages,
heavily broken, and the libc problems. I don't wish to cast any blame
on the package managers
On 9 May 1999, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
[Talking about tasks and profile from boot-floppies]
brandon == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
brandon I'd personally like to see a way to easily add a profile via
brandon dpkg -get-selections and make for a cookie cutter install
brandon
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