Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[ woah, this is an old thread, but a good one to bring back. ]
Heh... yeah, I keep around email that I want to reply to, even though
it sometimes takes a month or so before I get a chance.
Yes, the next frontend to apt (gnome-apt?) should handle the
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 11:11:21AM -0500, Mr. Christopher F. Miller wrote:
What are the reasons for freezing in the first place? Distribution
versioning is not something I know much about! Help me out.
1) A known (re)starting point.
2) Bandwidth conservation - offload from mirrors to
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
I'll be at Usenix again this year
As will I. Flying in Tues evening, back Fri evening. Will, as usual, have
some of my PGP fingerprint slips of paper with me in case I run into anyone.
Bdale
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:33:39PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
I maintain package xfonts-latin2-biznet.
I think about change of package name. Maybe xfonts-biznet-iso8859-2 will be
better?
My proposition for any font package:
xfonts-producer-codepage-size
What about font package names?
From: Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Packages to give away (was: xfig and transfig)
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:56:47 +0100
xfig and transfig maintainer here.
I am not really sure what the question is,
Very sorry, but I want to know what you replied.
Thanks for your rapid reply.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
I wonder if s/o is already working on this or if it doesn't make sense
to package it.
Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to the license
on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good to see an alternative that will be
in main...
Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
I wonder if s/o is already working on this or if it doesn't make sense
to package it.
Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to
the license on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good to
Just to troll out of the box a bit:
What are the reasons for freezing in the first place? Distribution
versioning is not something I know much about! Help me out.
1) A known (re)starting point.
2) Bandwidth conservation - offload from mirrors to CD-ROM.
3) Life is simpler for the non
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to
the license on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good to see an
alternative that will be in main... even if it's less functional.
Is it possible to keep an older version of Bind in
Mike Stone said:
I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
needed to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
There is a difference in this case: freeze is not in effect, and not
immenent. If
Mike Stone said:
Perl is just another app.
For most distributions, this is true. Proof: you can run those dists without
perl.
For debian, however, Mike's statement is not valid. Proof: try to release
debian without perl in any form. You're gonna find that perl happens to have
been made
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
for (int nI=0; nI10; nI++) ...
Anybody who does that willingly must be shot. =
No, no; no need for violence. Anyone who does that is already
suffering enough at their own hands and doesn't need external help.
Yea...I started a thread about this a few weeks ago...it seems to be an
issue and someone posted a theory (or an explanation..don't remember anymore)
of what was actually happeneing and a hack/fix for it I think..
Ivan
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 10:14:25AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
Anyone else
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zygo Blaxell) writes:
Why 78 characters per line of code?
Because the laser printer wants that.
Why does the laser printer want that?
Uhhh...because IBM made a business decision in the 1950's?
I will actually point out that although the exact
I'm seeing a few rather vocal people who really just want to release
ASAP for whatever reason, most are willing to wait to get stable, but
they still 'just want to get it out'...
I'm also seeing a lot of FUD being spread about perl5.005, guys, we
/HAVE/ a plan, the maintainer is busy working on
Or the script could simply test and run like the init.d scripts do.
On 09-May-99 Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
What if a package is installed, and puts a script in a run-parts
directory or into a .d directory, but isn't configured due to a
missing dependancy? The newbie sysadmin doesn't know to
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:14:24PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote:
Mike Stone said:
Perl is just another app.
For most distributions, this is true. Proof: you can run those dists without
perl.
For debian, however, Mike's statement is not valid. Proof: try to release
debian without perl in any
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:00:21PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote:
Mike Stone said:
I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
needed to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
There is a
I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months.
Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1?
At 18:16 -0600 1999-05-09, Bdale Garbee wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
I wonder if s/o is already working on this or if it doesn't make sense
to package it.
Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to the
license
on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good to
Oscar Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months.
Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1?
It wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's necessary. glibc2.1 can
drop-in replace 2.0 (unless you have a program that depends on
On 9 May 1999, Guy Maor wrote:
Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
Okay, I will send an email to the mirrors list and switch it over
sometime Tuesday evening. This switch will cause them all to fetch the
whole archive again, but it
Hello,
is some of you maintainers willing to recompile the qt1-1.42 package
on a potato system and then do a NMU? (I don't have a potato system
currently.)
Thanks,
Best Regards from Dresden/Germany
Viele Gruesse aus Dresden
Heiko Schlittermann
--
[internet unix support
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 04:08:34PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
[Talking about tasks and profile from boot-floppies]
brandon == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
brandon I'd personally like to see a way to easily add a profile via
brandon dpkg -get-selections and make for a
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:23:28AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
: On 9 May 1999, Guy Maor wrote:
: Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
Heiko
--
[internet unix support
In order to package nis+ utilities I upgraded a slink system to potato
(apt-get, first libc6, then rest, then kernel 2.2.5 image).
Now a face strange compilation problems, like for the cvs package
$dpkg-source -x cvs_1.10.4-1.dsc
$cd cvs-1.10.4/
$debuild
[..]
gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:11:42AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months.
Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1?
It wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's necessary. glibc2.1 can
drop-in replace 2.0 (unless you
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:30:59AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
: Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
Hi, I am a member of Debian JP and use potato now.
There is some problems on dependency of magicfilter and gs with
Japanese support (which is in Debian JP at present ;-).
magicfilter 1.2-29 set dependency as follows:
Recommends: lpr|lprng, gs (= 3.33)
but gs can not handle Japanese characters
Andreas == Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think this is a very difficult point, how do you plan to
solve this, choose the right Xserver and XF86Config file for
the users system ? Or do you plan to use the fbdev server ? i
think not yet all graphic cards have
Dave == Dave Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Hi Everyone, There does not seem to be any objections to the
Dave initial proposal of doing a setup API and perhaps rethinking
Dave how we do an install. Would it be possible to come to a
Dave consensus on this and decide if it's
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:50:11 +0300, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
checkin.o: file not recognized: File truncated
/usr/bin/ld: cuddZddGroup.o: invalid string offset 285212672 = 89 for
section `.shstrtab'
I would expect the problems more in egcs, libc6 or the kernel itself (the
system rebooted
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:43:09AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:30:59AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
: : Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: : CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
:
: That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:59:24AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
Joseph == Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joseph Save yourself some pain and use slang for the console
Joseph based installation.
What makes `slang' a better choice than `ncurses'?
Besides that ncurses
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:37:24AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:27:16AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
: Hello,
:
: is some of you maintainers willing to recompile the qt1-1.42 package
: on a potato system and then do a NMU? (I don't have a potato system
:
I just noticed that debian.org has a boatload of nameservers:
# host -t ns debian.org
debian.org NS saens.debian.org
debian.org NS va.debian.org
debian.org NS pandora.debian.org
debian.org NS murphy.debian.org
debian.org
Folks,
There has been talk on this for over a week, but I haven't seen a solution
posted. I have managed to take control of my machine, by booting
init=/bin/sh, and starting the network manually. Even downloaded
libc6_2.1.1-3, which I assume will fix the problem.
I have seen others also
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago.
Not to mention that the European connectivity of pandora is _way_
better than that of
Finally, it turned out, that it is a bug in the NFS-code/-setup. When I copy
the file to a local hard disk (even with cp from a NFS mounted disk), I can
compile cvs without any problems (and even to times). Before it was impossible
to get Code which does not segault.
The NFS server is a
Hi all,
Don't ask me what it does, I just know that mozilla code demands it :)
So I'll package it. Download location is ftp.mozilla.org, but I'll try
to find the origin. The licence is LGPL.
If someone could grab it from me (either now, or after I do the initial
packaging), I would REALLY
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:43:39PM +0530, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
Folks,
There has been talk on this for over a week, but I haven't seen a solution
posted. I have managed to take control of my machine, by booting
init=/bin/sh, and starting the network manually. Even downloaded
libc6_2.1.1-3,
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:32:44PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
Don't ask me what it does, I just know that mozilla code demands it :)
Hm. Apparently, this already exists as part of liborbit0, so I'll
probably try to use that one.
--
enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:36:33PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago.
Not to
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:43:09AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:30:59AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
: Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
Um,
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Collins M. Ben wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:43:39PM +0530, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
Folks,
I have seen others also talking about the problem, but there doesn't seem
to be a solution posted.
However, the installation fails, as tar fails (chown problem).
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 06:43:44PM +0530, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
I can't put in the 2.2.7 kernel now, as tar complains of chown problems.
Boot using the one of the 2.2.1 resc1440 disks from slink and copy over
the 2.2.1 kernel. You should be able to boot using that and be ok. If you
experience
Note that the same problem occurs when using magicfilter with gs-aladdin.
Jay Treacy
On 10/05, Richard Braakman wrote:
| * glibc 2.1 upgrade
| As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
| bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
| of what to do with /dev/pts.
Not largely complete on Sparc (we still have problems with
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
[...]
A number of release goals have been proposed. I don't intend to start
the freeze until all release goals are in place.
[...]
* Working disk sets for all released architectures.
I don't know much about the plans for the
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:58:16AM -0400, Collins M. Ben wrote:
glibc 2.1+ in potato is going to require a 2.2 kernel so this wont help.
To be honest I am not sure how you passed the preinst phase since it
should fail to even unpack the glibc 2.1.1. I'll look into why that
happened.
What?
Hi, I'm one of the members in Debian JP,
and a self candidate to a maintainer in Debian.
# I have sent application mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at May 05 1999.
# I have much curiosity at the processing time to join the Debian project.
# (I waited to join XFree86 as a non-voting member just 11days,
I think that Power PC will be included in potato.
Am I wrong?
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Quoting Ossama Othman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Hi,
On 10 May, Richard Braakman wrote:
* GNOME
I wasn't there to see it, but I hear that the GNOME staging
Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 10/05, Richard Braakman wrote:
| * glibc 2.1 upgrade
| As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
| bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
| of what to do with /dev/pts.
Not
Hi,
I intent to package the following Perl modules:
- Locale::Maketext
Locale::Maketext is a base class providing a framework for software
localization and inheritance-based lexicons, as described in an
article in The Perl Journal #13.
Note that this is an underdocumented alpha release
On May 10, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
I think that Power PC will be included in potato.
It will be definitly.
At 19:06 +0200 1999-05-10, Richard Braakman wrote:
* glibc 2.1 upgrade
As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
of what to do with /dev/pts.
No there isn't, /dev/pts is taken care of.
* glibc
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait:
* perl 5.005
I've been assured that a working upgrade plan now exists and is being
worked on, one that will not involve recompiling a lot of packages.
I'll still be happier if perl 5.005 is introduced at the start of
the
Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
* Working disk sets for all released architectures.
I don't know much about the plans for the boot-floppies yet. Could
someone volunteer as a contact person, or tell me the best
Taketoshi Sano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have heard that some self-candidates from Debian JP felt
that the Debian Project rejects them as a maintainer,
because:
one of them had not receive no answers for long time,
more than a month is too long enough for ordinary people.
Yes,
Moin all,
* Working disk sets for all released architectures.
I don't know much about the plans for the boot-floppies yet. Could
someone volunteer as a contact person, or tell me the best list to read?
A minimum is two months for this -- if we start now to work on this.
* glibc 2.1
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait:
* Working disk sets for all released architectures.
I don't know much about the plans for the boot-floppies yet. Could
someone volunteer as a contact person, or tell me the best list to read?
There's also another thing
Quoting Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is my machine a ticking time bomb or something? Will it not boot up next
time I have to reboot?
Other than putting the acct package on hold, I've been tracking potato
pretty closely.
I'm not sure about glibc requiring 2.2.x but I have noticed
Hi,
BTW, I think it's good to set an *optimistic* freeze date, so people
aren't shocked. I would set it at July 1, or maybe Bastille day
(Debian pomme de terre?).
For slink update or for potato? For potato we new min. two months and
only if we start now working very hard (all maintainers,
The best list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The main problem we are
facing is our official 2.2.x kernels are huge, and there's no way to put
the kernel and the root.bin image on a single floppy. The proposed
solution is building a modularized kernel, and loading the needed modules
using an initrd
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago.
Newbie ;-)
You have yourself pointed out a number of problems including lack of
diskspace
Hasn't been the
There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The
script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the
good number of packages for each CDs. Currently, the two binary CDs
can still be generated for potato but not the source images (they are too
big). And many
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:55:44PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
[...]
Other topics: language support for boot-floppies (and then also cd-images)
and dpkg dselect (and newer apt-get versions).
Almost ready for boot-floppies, we just need a dialog box for language
selection at
Sorry folks. I inadvertently posted to debian-devel-announce instead
of debian-devel. (thanks to Brandon and Edward for pointing this out)
With regard Richard's question regarding GNOME in potato:
GNOME has been copied from the staging area into potato. I believe
that just about all of the
On May 10, Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suppose it would be possible, but I'm not particularly interested in
maintaining more than one version. A better solution would be to figure out
We can't not have a package like BIND in our distribution.
If you need some hints about setting
Just to let people know who are interested...I've been given CVS access to the
kde source so that I can update and keep up to date the kde packages. Stephen
has plans for the future (ie, kde 2.0.x and beyond) and just doesn't have time
to keep the stuff updated at this time and I volunteered to
kdm not requiring xdm. (I migrated kdm out of kdebase so it is a seperate
package..this should take care of this for the time being)
migrate kde out of /usr/X11R6/bin and into /usr/bin (requested by someone)
fixing up the scripts (still working on this...have current
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:03:37PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein écrivait:
The QA-team must then also have the power to do massive NMU's.
Did you read the last text describing QA-members powers ? Isn't it enough ?
I don't know. The only problem I may see, is the time we must wait before
we are allowed
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The
script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the
good number of packages for each CDs. Currently, the two binary CDs
can still be generated for potato but not
Quoting Hartmut Koptein [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
/etc/init.d/kdm shouldn't use /etc/X11/config, its obsolete.
yea..I forgot to mention that one as well...currently how I have it is
that kdm (as a seperate package) requires xdm and uses a /etc/X11/kdm dir
with a config in there instead so that it's
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:46:44PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Richard, you forgot a number of other items:
What architectures will be in potato? Clearly, all the slink ones --
will PowerPC be ready too? Hurd-i386? (good god, I don't want to
even *think* about what we'll need for Hurd
*Taketoshi Sano wrote:
Hi, I'm one of the members in Debian JP,
and a self candidate to a maintainer in Debian.
# I have sent application mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at May 05 1999.
# I have much curiosity at the processing time to join the Debian project.
# (I waited to join XFree86 as a
*Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
So if you have beefs with how kde is currently being done from a debian
package
standpoint and would like to see them done differently please let me know.
Here
is a current list of things that people have already stated needed to be
changed
or was a god it would
For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs).
A bootable CD for PReP will need a special layout as well. prep image +
isofs...looks like we need multiple powerpc binary cd images.
PReP can't read msdos partition on cd?
Look into kde/kdm's bug list. It does some things very badly here (have heard
the X maint gripe more than once on this).
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:55:44PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
mozilla should work for potato
Maybe it will ;) We'll try.
--
enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/
Hi,
sorry for the confuse layout on http://master.debian.org/~koptein
`log for successful build of x' means also a bad/failed package; this
comes from an bad return value of one of the autobuilder scripts (don't know
which one).
Thanks,
Hartmut
mozilla should work for potato
Maybe it will ;) We'll try.
I try it now serveral weeks (not constantly), but all what i get is the
'composer' mode on powerpc (the one without the menus) or a window without
anything in it. It makes no different if i use the M4 version from master
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs).
A bootable CD for PReP will need a special layout as well. prep image +
isofs...looks like we need multiple powerpc binary cd images.
PReP can't read msdos partition on
* Wichert Akkerman (Sat, May 08, 1999 at 10:17:26PM +0200)
Previously Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
The first part was easy (if I got it right, that is), that's just a small
patch to /etc/X11/Xsession.
Isn't is easier have some small script check the list of available
window managers and
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
James R. Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember that the person who is most qualified to test any
piece of code is the person who wrote it.
Wichert I can argue about that. But I won't :)
The person who wrote
Quoting John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is the debugging info necessary ? I wonder if it slows things down.
probably not. From what I gather, alot of how the debian packages are created
are for the benefit of the developers. This would at least explain debugging
info...I will dig
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Look into kde/kdm's bug list. It does some things very badly here (have
heard
the X maint gripe more than once on this).
yea..I need to do that.. I know one of the big beefs was that kdebase required
xdm since kdm was apart of kdebase...I took part of this issue
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 11:09:18PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
: Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a
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