On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:22:11PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
For the unfamiliar, CATI programs are used to to conduct surveys over
the telephone (although they can also be used in other contexts).
Think of an installation wizard with a modem dialer and database
backend, and you've got the
I've packaged up a nice HTML editor for GNOME (similar in interface to
Allaire's HomeSite) called SCREEM (see http://www.screem.org/). It will
take me a little longer before it's fully baked (I deleted the debianized
source directory before I'd re-run dpkg-source -b on it, so I need to
rewrite the
On Oct 03, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:22:11PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
For the unfamiliar, CATI programs are used to to conduct surveys over
the telephone (although they can also be used in other contexts).
Think of an installation wizard with a modem dialer and
On Oct 02, Chris Lawrence wrote:
On Oct 03, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:22:11PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
For the unfamiliar, CATI programs are used to to conduct surveys over
the telephone (although they can also be used in other contexts).
Think of an
Hi,
I know this has been a topic recently, but I really wonder how long it
takes to get a membership. Is it something that can be estimated at
least? I didn't receive any reply to the email I sent to the new
maintainers alias, not even one automatic one giving an idea of the
timeframe.
Now, what
[ RSA is no longer included. ]
[ IDEA is no longer included. ]
IDEA was the only part of ssh that made it non-free, prohibiting
commercial use.
Wrong, RSA makes it non-free, and so does their license.
Wrong, RSA makes it non-us. I can freely use RSA here.
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Colin Walters wrote:
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 10:49:58AM -0700, David Bristel wrote:
Did you consider his point, though? Why would you install a service
if you don't want it to run?
ones you want. A possible solution would be a daemon flag to go on a
package,
Have you all seen the nice developers' map at
http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc ?
Here's your chance to help make it better!
The map is generated by xplanet. However, we have a few slight problems
1) xplanet doesn't build well on slink (well, xplanet does, but it depends
on things
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 08:54:48AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
PS: the RSA patent expires in 2001 (or is it 2002?), anyway.
20 September 2000.
--
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux developer
GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3
There is a mutt release in incoming which should go in potato ASAP
but has been rejected because my DSA key is not in the keyring (I don't
know why, I sent it...).
Please someone add the key (www.linux.it/~md/md-gpg.asc) and move back
the .changes or either do a NMU with the source and the diff in
already package by Mickael Dorman and it's in INCOMING.
bst regards.
Frederic.
Le Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 04:46:25AM +, Yves Arrouye écrivait:
Now, what is funny is that I was a member of Debian until 1997, when I
left France. If you look at the list of packages that are orphaned and
that Debian QA wants an owner for, there are two I authored, and would
get back
Why not implement a system similar to that in Irix ( and a few other sysv
style systems ), and use a 'chkconfig' type setup..
Irix implements it with a config directory (/etc/config), which contains
files with the same name as the init script or app, and contains a single
word .. 'on' or 'off' ..
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 02:59:38AM -0400, Rick wrote:
I'm uncertain whether this is a good idea or not. I have helped many
people install redhat linux and, frankly, the daemon enable screen
confuses them. They don't know what all these things are or which ones
they may need. If this gets
* Terry == Terry Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry so, you can issue:
Terry chkconfig postgresql on
Terry /etc/init.d/postgresql start
Terry chkconfig postgresql off
I don't know if I understand you correctly, but does this mean, that
the question whether a init.d script would start the
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 07:36:28PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
Consider if we have bugs 0-199 and you take the first digit. You end up
with 10 bugs in each bucket except bucket '1' which has 110. Put that on a
broader scale and account for expired bugs and you see the trouble.
Why not base
On Sat, 2 October 1999 15:13:12 +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
exim has its own filter facility, that is easier to understand and use
by new users.
Yep.
And what is needed by procmail is the following:
Transport-wise:
|local_delivery:
| driver = pipe
| command=/usr/bin/procmail
|
Edward Betts writes:
It is the same for other things like list server. I used berolist to start
with, and it is terrible. Then I tried smartlist, and it was great. The
problem is there are so many to look at.
don't know the two, mailman is another (for the user easy to use) alternative.
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:36:01AM -0400, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
yea...I just did an update today and something decided to remove
/bin/sh during the upgrade...and didn't put it back before it
was needed... so if something hoses for you just recreate it by
linking it to like bash...
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:44:25AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 12:30:04PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Just having /bin/sh included in the .deb is Good Enough -- diversions
work as designed.
Good Enough is not good enough (TM).
*shrug* Name a case where it fails.
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 08:56:23AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
The idea is that when you upgrade the package like telnetd, there
may be new shlib dependencies, etc. which means that you should stop
spawning new daemons until it is configured. Of course, this may
not happen for every release, but
Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Transport-wise:
|local_delivery:
| driver = pipe
| command=/usr/bin/procmail
| umask=0022
(This can be enhanced with a required_files = ~/:~/.procmailrc or
any such things (needing the procmail binary itself, the other
transport (the old
Hello,
I was just poking around on my system and found a script I wrote back when
kernel 2.2 was released. It was an experiment to see if I could easily handle
registration and deregistration of binary formats (with binfmt_misc) -- it
just occured to me that Debian might be interested in it,
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:44:25AM -0400, Raul Miller was heard to say:
A wonderfuly horrible hack has occurred to me, by the way: A cron job
which runs every minute: /bin/sh -c exit || /sbin/rebuild-bin-sh
Hmm. There's a bit of a problem here: aren't cronjobs executed
with /bin/sh? :)
Oops.
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:06:02AM -0400, Daniel Burrows was heard to say:
test -e /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc || exit 0
That maybe should be test -d ... (although the above works even on ash)
Daniel
--
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
--
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 02:59:38AM -0400, Rick wrote:
I'm uncertain whether this is a good idea or not. I have helped many
people install redhat linux and, frankly, the daemon enable screen
confuses them. They don't know what all these things are or which ones
they may need. If this gets
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:07:03AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:44:25AM -0400, Raul Miller was heard to say:
A wonderfuly horrible hack has occurred to me, by the way: A cron job
which runs every minute: /bin/sh -c exit || /sbin/rebuild-bin-sh
Hmm. There's a
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 08:06:10PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
i show no regard for those who demonstrate they are fools. i show
contempt for those who demonstrate that they are annoying fools. guess
which category you fall into.
Ok, try this on for size:
How many network services do you get
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 03:53:43PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
In any case, I fail to see how pressing `_' in dselect before any
unnecessary daemons are installed could possibly be less secure than
saying No, I don't want services activated by default and then
installing them anyway.
How long
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:44:25AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 12:30:04PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Just having /bin/sh included in the .deb is Good Enough -- diversions
work as designed.
Good Enough is not good enough (TM).
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 11:55:54PM
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:06:02AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
[ as I understand it, a security 'breach' could only occur with this
system if a user had execute permissions but *not* read permissions
on a file that wasn't of a normal executable format; in other words:
rwx--x--x
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 01:00:44PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
procmail is used by many users, because they can install it on their
own and do not have to rely on a specific MTA and the documentation is
far better for procmail than for exim's MDA features.
Really? I find the exim filter
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 11:28:31AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 11:55:54PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
*shrug* Name a case where it fails.
You don't remember the problems when libreadline broke?
Yes, I do. That's not related to bash, it's related to having bash
implicitly
Did you explain this to new-maintainer ? Do you still have your old PGP
key ?
I did explain that. Since nobody answered, I have no idea if it's been
received (except for my mail not bouncing, that is). I don't have my old
PGP key. In fact, if you look at the keyservers, you'll see that I've
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 11:30:04AM -0400, Raul Miller was heard to say:
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:06:02AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
[ as I understand it, a security 'breach' could only occur with this
system if a user had execute permissions but *not* read permissions
on a file that
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 11:57:07PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 08:54:48AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
PS: the RSA patent expires in 2001 (or is it 2002?), anyway.
20 September 2000.
Does anyone know when the LZW patent expires?
--
Bob Nielsen
Yves Arrouye wrote:
be really fast, and Debian won't loose great people that want to
volunteer. You can even track who approved whom and prevent people w/
bad judgment to approve other ones, etc... I am sure there are ways to
move the approval time from months to days.
---end quoted text---
On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Frederic CELLA wrote:
already package by Mickael Dorman and it's in INCOMING
So it is. Thanks. I did contact the author, but hadn't received a reply
yet.
Perhaps the New Maintainers' Guide Sec. 2.1 should be changed to read
check in Incoming and maybe ask in #debian before
Ech, I'm a bit behind on my -devel reading. I hope this question hasn't
been answered down in another thread. :)
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 06:49:15AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
I understood wine as being a library that intercepted
win32 calls and redirected those calls into the
correct X or
On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Yves Arrouye wrote:
Debian has some big advantages over any other distribution I know of
that make me want to contribute to Debian rather than another one. But
months for getting a membership, isn't that risking that new volunteers
will turn to Mandrake or Stampede for
On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Terry Katz wrote:
Why not implement a system similar to that in Irix ( and a few other sysv
style systems ), and use a 'chkconfig' type setup..
Irix implements it with a config directory (/etc/config), which contains
files with the same name as the init script or app,
Looking back on it .. I guess the chkconfig idea wasn't as good as I was
originally thinking .. Irix has been the main OS at my company until
recently when I started moving the apps over to high end Linux boxes, and
have gotten used to the chkconfig setup .. (which serves more purposes than
just
Steve Willer writes:
Yes, this is exactly the problem, and it's a big reason why I
installed FreeBSD over Debian last night. I had hoped that the new
school year would bring some energy to this project, but it's still
the same old bickering, the same lack of forward movement, and
It looks like the doom source is now under the GPL.
(http://www.doomworld.com/). This clears up the previous licencing problems
that were keeping it out of debian. It will still be fit only for contrib
for now, since it needs non-free WAD files.
Who's going to mackage it?
--
see shy jo
Why don't we have, by default, all daemons which grab ports run in
runlevel 3? We could keep runlevel 2 as the default, which would
become the workstation (i.e. no services) runlevel, and 3 would
be the all installed daemons start runlevel. That way, the
default configuration upon installation
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
It looks like the doom source is now under the GPL.
(http://www.doomworld.com/). This clears up the previous licencing problems
that were keeping it out of debian. It will still be fit only for contrib
for now, since it needs non-free
Actually I hadn't thought of the fact that you could
link a windows program agains winelib to create a
native linux executable, but it makes perfect sense.
Corel might still need a few ifdef's to work around
known problems in wine's implementation of the win32
api, but it would be quite do-able.
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Joey Hess was heard to say:
It looks like the doom source is now under the GPL.
(http://www.doomworld.com/). This clears up the previous licencing problems
that were keeping it out of debian. It will still be fit only for contrib
for now, since it
Joseph Carter wrote:
Joe Drew has lxdoom and I have agreed to sponsor his packages as soon as
I'm caught up with school again.
Ok, he might want to look at my old lxdoom package, which has several
patches in it. (ftp://kitenet.net/pub/code/debian/)
What about the music server?
--
see shy jo
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 01:33:29PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Joe Drew has lxdoom and I have agreed to sponsor his packages as soon as
I'm caught up with school again.
Ok, he might want to look at my old lxdoom package, which has several
patches in it. (ftp://kitenet.net/pub/code/debian/)
Joseph Carter wrote:
I'm hoping to convince the lxdoom and dosdoom people to throw it and the
sound server away. They suck and are evil. Would be better to write
sound support directly these days (and is now actually reasonable to do.
I even have soundfonts that make Timidity Not Suck---I'm
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 11:55:10PM -0700, Randolph Chung wrote:
Have you all seen the nice developers' map at
http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc ?
Here's your chance to help make it better!
The map is generated by xplanet. However, we have a few slight problems
1) xplanet
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 01:48:35PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Yeah, we'll package the evil music server in the meantime. =
I did a *lot* of hacking on the music server, making doom communicate with
it via a pipe and other things and got it working really well.
It is evil though, it has to
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 10:50:06PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
On Oct 03, Craig Sanders wrote:
IMO, this is morally akin to writing free software specifically to make
spamming cheaper and easier.
No, it isn't. Survey research is an important part of the social
sciences.
it may be an
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 01:26:37PM -0400, Steve Willer wrote:
Yes, this is exactly the problem, and it's a big reason why I installed
FreeBSD over Debian last night. I had hoped that the new school year would
Just us on debian-bsd, then?
It's a bit dead presently but it was pretty lively a few
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:57:12AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
As far as I know, leaving inetd accepting connections would, worst case,
fail -- which is no different from having the service disabled. In other
words, I don't see that disabling the daemon solves anything useful.
I think the
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