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Quoting Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Bien sûr, tout ceci est à conditionner par la manière dont le CGI réécrit
ce fichier token. Il peut très bien le faire correctement. Un essai est le
meilleur moyen de vérifier à défaut de bien connaître le Ocaml.
J'ai déjà essayé une attaque
Steven Hanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
Just because it seems at the moment that too many translation notifications
are being generated for them to be placed into the bts I wonder if it is
overkill/added complexity to try to use something else, as I would assume the
number of
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:51:04PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
Question regarding this new bug on procmail-lib that I adopted recently:
[snip copy of my bug report]
I would happily move it to /usr/share, however I am worried about users
who are already using the current version. Users
I noticed that xconsole eats up a lot of ram:
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
4725 root 14 -10 105M 13M 11244 S0.0 11.2 2208m XFree86
10873 erik 10 0 18224 11M 5800 S 0.0 9.4 0:27
communicator-sm
4753 root 9 0 8564
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12-Sep-2001 Edward Betts wrote:
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The lintian maintainer is back! I am slowly reading up on the new policy
and
my bug list. So, if you have any beefs or patches please read the BTS and
submit
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 03:50:16PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martin Quinson wrote:
1) Do the translation
2) Put the translation in the Debian archive
Wrong. `Make the translation available' would be better. Not all packages
are in the Debian archive, and they have to be
Every time I post to debian-devel, I get this automatic reply I can read. Is
the fault of seting a wrong auto-responder grave enough to nuke this guy
from the list, or should I set a procmail rule ?
Thanks, Mt.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 08:56:57AM +, Tomek Zubilew wrote:
Przykro mi, ale Twoja
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 08:55:44AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
You want to handle 2 by putting the translation in the package.
No, I want it to be possible to have it in the package, but it might
be elsewhere as well. Putting all translations in all packages doesn't
scale, but having
I've posted this 10 days ago on deity, but got no reply, so I'm trying here...
NB: just to make my self clear, I want to download a sources.list-like file
from a server every time just before 'apt-get update' is run. I hope this is
possible.
Admar
- Forwarded message from admar -
Date:
Hi,
some days ago I submitted a bug (111465) against the locales package
asking for the inclusion of the alias english for the locale
en_US.ISO-8851-1. Ben Collins, the maintainer of locales, swiftly
closed it with this message:
Find a consensus on whether english should be en_US or
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:07:43AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
But Ben wants a consensus, so I'm asking here.
I would alias english to en_UK, since it is reasonable to choose the flavour
spoken in the language of origin.
--
Met vriendelijke groet / with kind regards,
Guus Sliepen
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:07:43AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
But Ben wants a consensus, so I'm asking here.
FWIW, that file *is* shipped with locales as /etc/locale.alias, even if
there's no sensible default for some entries there, as I have shown
above.
2 aliases, english for
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My bug was triggered by the fact that gdm offers a long selection
of languages, among them English (without bells and whistles, just
plain old English) and in case you select that, it sets the
environment variable LANG to that, english.
Maybe
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2 aliases, english for the English, american for the Americans.
I don't speak 'american', though, I speak 'english', and will look for
that, as will the rest of my compatriots, when asked to select the
language I speak. Nice try for a compromise, but it
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:46:06AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote:
2 aliases, english for the English, american for the Americans.
I don't speak 'american', though, I speak 'english', and will look for
that, as will the rest of my compatriots, when asked to select the
language I speak. Nice
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
french fr_FR.ISO-8859-1
german de_DE.ISO-8859-1
portuguese pt_PT.ISO-8859-1
spanish es_ES.ISO-8859-1
If these refer to the people, then the problem
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:07:43AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
Hi,
some days ago I submitted a bug (111465) against the locales package
asking for the inclusion of the alias english for the locale
en_US.ISO-8851-1. Ben Collins, the maintainer of locales, swiftly
closed it with
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Jason Thomas wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 04:30:40PM -0700, Ralph Jennings wrote:
A video card makes things easier, though you could also do it over a serial
dumb terminal (but you do need *something* to enable interaction with the
install scripts). Your ATI card,
On 12-Sep-01, 19:08 (CDT), Cesar Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find the package useful and I'm also aware of the shortcomings of
ssh-agent, but was your solution to cron job's that do rsync over ssh?
and I don't think that pass phrase less keys is an option.
Why not? Create a
Hi folks.
I think there is a fundamental lacks of `general' documentation for
developers in Debian. I'd like to see some e-book available as
packages under /usr/share/doc. E.g. an HTML reference or many
e-books currently available at DevEdge, or many others - Thinking
C/Java/C++?.
Some e-books
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:04:20AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
Every time I post to debian-devel, I get this automatic reply I can read. Is
the fault of seting a wrong auto-responder grave enough to nuke this guy
from the list, or should I set a procmail rule ?
Thanks, Mt.
On Thu, Sep
Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some e-books are available also under Open Publication License.
What do you think of a pseudo package `ebooks-dev' which collects as
many guides, faqs and e-books as possible (in HTML format whenever
possible)? Is this a well-known question?
On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 11:35, David N. Welton wrote:
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My bug was triggered by the fact that gdm offers a long selection
of languages, among them English (without bells and whistles, just
plain old English) and in case you select that, it sets
Previously Martin Quinson wrote:
So, you want to make possible for a package to contain meta-data about
another package, am I right ?
Wrong, that would not make any sense.
Or are you thinking about a separate file, not in a package, like the
Packages.gz is ?
Yes.
But if you put the
David N. Welton (2001-09-13 14:30:54 +0200) :
Books are big. Something that pulls in a lot of them is likely to
be quite heavy. I think a package called 'books index' would make
more sense. This would provide an index to all the book packages
that are available in Debian, instructing the
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:30:54PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote:
Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some e-books are available also under Open Publication License.
What do you think of a pseudo package `ebooks-dev' which collects as
many guides, faqs and e-books as possible
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:35:46PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
But if you put the translation in the control file, you have to add almost
hundred fields, on per locale: Description-fr ; Description-fr_FR ;
Description-fr_CA ; Description-fr_BE just to have the more used french
variants
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Visual is a library for 3D scientific visualization. It allows rapid
development of programs in Python, but is itself written in C++ for speed.
It currently supports various colored geometrical primitives (texture
support is
Hi,
I would like to propose to form an Apache (web server) task force to maintain
the
Apache packages currently maintained by Johnie Ingram (netgod) (and potentially
related packages if the need arises). The current state of Apache and the
recent
need to fix at least some of the outstanding
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
It should be possible to do
dpkg -i pkg.deb EOF
value1
value2
...
valuen
EOF
No it should not, that is completely the wrong way to do it. That
is just a hack to work around debconf not working properly for you
or packages not using it yet.
I disagree. Debconf will never be
Previously Michael Bramer wrote:
wordperfect is no free software and they can only support some
languages. Get KDE, we have 38 kde-i18n-* packages. This is the
_minimum_.
This is not just about Debian. It is about the dpkg packaging system,
which can be (and is) used outside Debian just as
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:06:30PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
Keychain is functionaly equivalent to a passphraseless key, though.
Exactly my point! The only additional thing you get with keychain is a
false sense of security.
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 07:08:32PM -0500, Cesar Mendoza wrote:
On Thursday 13 September 2001 11:07, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
françaisfr_FR.ISO-8859-1
french fr_FR.ISO-8859-1
german de_DE.ISO-8859-1
portuguese pt_PT.ISO-8859-1
spanish es_ES.ISO-8859-1
No because I install fixed package version.
What does `fixed package version' mean?
Means that I have a package repository (in addition of a generic debian
mirror via rsync) where I regenerate the Packages and Relase file.
The reason behind that is that I normally install testing with a
PC hardware won't even POST without a videocard!
Depends on your BIOS, I had a 486 in the closet for over a year with no
video card in it. Setup the machine, set the video to NONE, in the bios,
and pulled the video card out. Worked fine, until it locks up and you
can't see why :)
Mike
Sounds like a good idea. I would also be willing to help out if
anything is needed from the ASF, although I'm not involved with the
server project itself.
--
David N. Welton
Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/
Free Software: http://people.debian.org/~davidw/
Apache Tcl:
From: Ardo van Rangelrooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: proposal for an Apache (web server) task force
Hi,
I would like to propose to form an Apache (web server) task force to maintain
the
Apache packages currently
Federico writes:
...spain for spanish, italy for italian, france for french,
etc. everybody is accepting that on other languages, don't see why the
americans should do different...
Right. Swiss for Switzerland, belgian for Belgium, canadian for Canada,
mexican for Mexico, brazilian for
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:26:32 +0200, VALETTE Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
It should be possible to do
dpkg -i pkg.deb EOF value1 value2 ... valuen EOF
No it should not, that is completely the wrong way to do
it. That is just a hack
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 03:05:09PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:30:54PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote:
Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some e-books are available also under Open Publication License.
What do you think of a pseudo
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 01:27:05PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
Indeed.
You might want to experiment with the following: Create a dedicated
user on the machine that you log into, whose default shell is not
/bin/sh, but a script of yours which executes rsync with the right
options, no
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:46:57AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 12-Sep-01, 19:08 (CDT), Cesar Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find the package useful and I'm also aware of the shortcomings of
ssh-agent, but was your solution to cron job's that do rsync over ssh?
and I don't think
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:34:45PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
Maybe it should ask if you want british or american english.
why? we know what is *the* english, the one that originated in england.
(note how the two words have the same root, eng-?) as a pratical rule, i
suggest to
What's the problem? German is spoken outside Germany. That what's
spoken outside Germany is not the same as that what's spoken inside
Germany, but that what's spoken outside is still called German
(officially), as far as I know. That is to say, de_AT.ISO-8859-1 is as
german as
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:25:43PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Michael Bramer wrote:
This is not just about Debian. It is about the dpkg packaging system,
which can be (and is) used outside Debian just as well.
That's decided by whoever makes a package. I don't expect
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Visual is a library for 3D scientific visualization. It allows rapid
development of programs in Python, but is itself written in C++ for speed.
It currently supports various colored geometrical primitives (texture
support is being added). It was
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Martin Quinson wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:51:38PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
Only if the implementation is poor. The accuracy of a translation can be
verified in the process of assembling the file that is to be made available
to
user machines (whether
T
The best solution would be that all postinst scripts use debconf. The
We do not need this dirty trick.
So you mean that real life is not as simple as wichert seems to think...
--
__
/ ` Eric Valette - Canon CRF
/-- __ o _. Product Dev. Group
Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 11:35, David N. Welton wrote:
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My bug was triggered by the fact that gdm offers a long selection
of languages, among them English (without bells and whistles, just
plain old English)
On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 16:39, John Hasler wrote:
Federico writes:
...spain for spanish, italy for italian, france for french,
etc. everybody is accepting that on other languages, don't see why the
americans should do different...
Right. Swiss for Switzerland, belgian for Belgium,
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:11:39PM +0200, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
Okey. Then english SHOULD point to en_UK.ISO-8859-1. If disagreement with
americans should block this inclusion, portuguese should be removed too.
Since the most frequencly use portuguese is Brazilian.
Sure. GDM should
I'm seeing lots of problems with apt 0.5.3 in my testing release
installation which have apparently been fixed in 0.5.4. So, I wanted to
see why it wasn't in testing yet.
The excuses say:
apt 0.5.4 (currently 0.5.3) (important) (low)
Maintainer: APT Development Team [EMAIL
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:53:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:51:04PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
Would turning /usr/lib/procmail-lib into a symlink to the appropriate
location be acceptable? I would really rather avoid breaking every rcfile
that currently uses
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:44:06AM -0500, Cesar Mendoza wrote:
That is the setup I have (a especial key just for the cronjob, but since
it is runing under my user name, I like to use ssh-agent to add my other
keys, then delete them when the session is over), but I want the key to
have
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 12:36:37AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
From: Ardo van Rangelrooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: proposal for an Apache (web server) task force
Hi,
I would like to propose to form an Apache (web
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:16:53AM -0400, Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
Packages which satisfy both of those dependencies _are_ currently in
testing, so... why isn't APT?
I'm not sure, but I think deity would break if apt moved to testing.
Daniel
--
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:16:53AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote:
I'm seeing lots of problems with apt 0.5.3 in my testing release
installation which have apparently been fixed in 0.5.4. So, I wanted to
see why it wasn't in testing yet.
The excuses say:
apt 0.5.4 (currently 0.5.3) (important)
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:05:25PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Martin Quinson wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:51:38PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
- an output mecanism, including the fallback to original if the translation
is outdated. You have either to rewrite
These are not equivalent situations. If the machine is turned off,
keychain's keys are removed from memory. The passphraseless key is
still on disk. It's also significantly harder to get the key out of
ssh-agent's memory than it is to read it off of disk.
Keychain is inappropriate for many
Em 13 Sep 2001 09:39:07 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
Federico writes:
...spain for spanish, italy for italian, france for french,
etc. everybody is accepting that on other languages, don't see why the
americans should do different...
Right. Swiss for Switzerland,
Em Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:11:06 +1000
Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
I agree. This argument sounds reasonable. If spanish maps to Spain, then
english should map to England.
nah that's not it... if I understand it correctly, united states
would map to es_US and england would map to
Em Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:15:28 +0900
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
french fr_FR.ISO-8859-1
german de_DE.ISO-8859-1
portuguese pt_PT.ISO-8859-1
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote:
I would like to propose to form an Apache (web server) task force to
maintain the Apache packages currently maintained by Johnie Ingram
(netgod) (and potentially related packages if the need arises). The
current state of Apache and the recent
Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog@svana.org wrote:
The point is that if there is corruption in the filesystem then the
immutable flag may have be switched on accedently.
You notice this on ext2 when an inode has been corrupted. There's a 50%
chance the immutable bit may have been set, leading
On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 18:26, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
Em Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:11:06 +1000
Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
I agree. This argument sounds reasonable. If spanish maps to Spain, then
english should map to England.
nah that's not it... if I understand it
Hi Michael,
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
The end-user tools would never have to deal with outdated translations if
the
.mo file is assembled ahead of time in a central location. Match up the
translations, insert them into the distilled .po file using the package
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 08:06:22PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 18:26, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
Em Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:11:06 +1000
Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
I agree. This argument sounds reasonable. If spanish maps to Spain, then
also sprach Ardo van Rangelrooij (on Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:42:44AM)
I would like to propose to form an Apache (web server) task force to
maintain the Apache packages currently maintained by Johnie Ingram
(netgod) (and potentially related packages if the need arises).
count me in.
I also
Don't forget Dutch, French and German in Belgium.
michael heyes
Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/13/2001 11:55:08 AM
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
cc:
Subject: Re: A language by any other name
Em 13 Sep 2001 09:39:07 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
I don't think that this is a bad goal by any means, but you're still asking
questions about how the RedHat installer does things, on a Debian list. If
you asked for suggestions on how to do it within Debian's current bootdisks
and so forth, that'd be one thing, but if you're mostly trying to
assuming that i have a local mirror of the entire debian and
debian-non-US trees, how can i rebuild the Packages.gz files myself?
reason that my link is slow, and keeping the mirror up to date takes
time and causes differences between Packages.gz and packages present.
so i figure i'll just make
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 01:26:07PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
The end-user tools would never have to deal with outdated translations if
the
.mo file is assembled ahead of time in a central location. Match up the
translations, insert them
I'm about to take an extended vacation from being a Debian developer,
and will therefore have to orphan all my packages; list with
descriptions below. I suspect that not very many people actually use
these packages (if you do, now is a good time to speak up). Therefore,
if I can't find new
It was just recently posted here:
Oohara Yuuma wrote a short, but decent HOWTO on doing this. You can find it at
http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/apt-gettable/apt-gettable/index.html
* Martin F Krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
assuming that i have a local mirror of the entire debian and
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Nick Phillips wrote:
[*] By definition, the English speak English. What the Americans speak is
different to what the English speak. Therefore the Americans don't speak
English.
That would mean the Belgian would speak Belgian, right?
I doubt it...
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wouter dot verhelst
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:01:49AM -0500, Ardo_Vanrangelrooij wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 12:36:37AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
From: Ardo van Rangelrooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: proposal for an Apache (web server)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:36:34 +0200, Marcin Owsiany
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW this means quota exceeded, so this is probably this guy's
ISP's fault.
This ISP deserves a LART anywa for sending bounces to the Header-From:
instead of the Envelope-From:.
Greetings
Marc
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Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:16:53AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote:
I'm seeing lots of problems with apt 0.5.3 in my testing release
installation which have apparently been fixed in 0.5.4. So, I wanted to
see why it wasn't in testing yet.
The
On 13-Sep-01, 10:27 (CDT), Elie Rosenblum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:53:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:51:04PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
Would turning /usr/lib/procmail-lib into a symlink to the appropriate
location be acceptable?
Daniel Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:01:49AM -0500, Ardo_Vanrangelrooij wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 12:36:37AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
From: Ardo van Rangelrooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Hi,
A month ago Michael Bramer (grisu) announced the DDTS project to translate
packages descriptions, and asked me to make a similar announcement about the
translation that we've been doing at La Espiral (a group of Spanish-speaking
developers).
We've been translating descriptions into Spanish
also sprach Brandon L. Griffith (on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:03:10PM -0400):
It was just recently posted here: Oohara Yuuma wrote a short, but
decent HOWTO on doing this. You can find it at
http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/apt-gettable/apt-gettable/index.html
i know this much and made it work
On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 20:32, David Starner wrote:
english is _also_ how the americans call their language, but
i think it was called english even before Colombo, right?
It's en_UK, btw. And the locale code for pre-Columbus English
ack. just a typo... g
is enm_UK (assuming that the
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