On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:56:48AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 11:36:41PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
Seul défaut : ça oblige à bien penser à mettre à jour les deux
tables de correspondance en plus des templates debconf si une nouvelle
langue est ajoutée
Arg, j'ai bien evidement oublie l'attachement..
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 02:16:15PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:56:48AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 11:36:41PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
Seul défaut : ça oblige à bien penser à
On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 11:54, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
This matter has been decided years ago by other people. /lib64 is
in the ELF psABI, see
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/elf/x86_64-SysV-psABI.pdf,
and upstream packages (e.g. KDE) are using it already.
I haven't read that whole
Try Mac OS X's Mail program. It has at least as good offline support
as OE, and is much nicer, too.
/me wishes Mail were free.
Gag. Mail might actually be useful if Apple had had the brains to include
simple stuff like *threading* of messages. All the fluff in the world, and
the message
On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 00:12, Milanuk, Monte wrote:
Gag. Mail might actually be useful if Apple had had the brains to include
simple stuff like *threading* of messages.
Nope, not there yet, even in the latest 10.2.5 stuff...
I guess 'normal' people don't subscribe to
mailing-lists, where
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 05:06:56AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
The options we currently have are:
1. drop i386 support completely: simple but painful
2. create a crippled distro for really old systems (e.g. i386 and i486)
3. keep everything the i386 way: slow and incompatible
4. like 3,
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 06:38:34PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote:
It may be relatively cheap and easy for *you* to buy a two-year-old
system, but I don't believe that in this case you are representative
of nearly enough of our users to be a useful example.
I also find it hard to believe that the
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 07:31:44AM +0200, Martin Godisch wrote:
Try instead:
$ pbuilder create --distribution woody
$ pbuilder update --distribution sid
Kind regards,
... or use the version of debootstrap for unstable.
I have compiled debootstrap and pbuilder unstable versions for
Arnd Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
1. drop i386 support completely: simple but painful
2. create a crippled distro for really old systems (e.g. i386 and i486)
3. keep everything the i386 way: slow and incompatible
4. like 3, but provide alternatives for new systems (i686+):
needs
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:56, Chris Cheney wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not
have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old. Being
that is how old the i686 sub-arch is... I once attempted to install
Debian 2.1 on a Pentium 90, it took
W licie z sob, 26-04-2003, godz. 09:56, Chris Cheney pisze:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 06:38:34PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote:
It may be relatively cheap and easy for *you* to buy a two-year-old
system, but I don't believe that in this case you are representative
of nearly enough of our users
On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 21:37, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le sam 26/04/2003 02:59, Matthew Palmer a crit :
For the original problem, it surely should be possible to build 386 and 486+
versions of libstdc++ and include both in the distro, with linker magic (or
installer magic) to tell the
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
I'd vote for 1 or
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
I'll drink to that!
--
Nick Phillips -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are confused; but this is your normal state.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 02:56:13AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not
have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old.
That's really not so relevant, even if correct. If they already have
a shitload of Pentiums which
* Russell Coker
| My logtools package is written in C++ with the STL. It performs
| well and will be quite useful to anyone who is running Apache for
| multiple domains on a 386.
No offense, but it is seriously slow. IIRC, it's a magnitude slower
than mergelog, especially when merging a lot
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement in dropping i386 in favour of
i486+?
Hamish
--
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
Hi,
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 04:12:25 +, Milanuk, Monte wrote:
I guess 'normal' people don't subscribe to
mailing-lists, where threading is *essential*.
Depends on the mailing list, I'd say. Most non-technical mailing lists
have so many people who use brain-dead webmail accounts that threading
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 07:57:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Joel Baker wrote:
That's more or less what I was hoping - however, checking
/usr/share/doc/fortune-mod doesn't show any references to 'language', or
any obvious references to i18n or l10n, at least on
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement in dropping i386 in favour of
i486+?
I've no idea, I was
Before I file a bugreport I thought I'd ask here first ..
It seems that currently apt is not able to replace an essential
package. Well in fact the package I am trying to replace isn't
even really essential...
Sysvinit was split up in sysvinit, initscripts and sysv-rc. The last
one can be
Hi Joey
Many thanks
Regards
Luiz
At 19:55 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement in dropping i386 in favour of
i486+?
- Integrated math
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:12:00AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
# dpkg -i file-rc_0.8.0_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package file-rc.
dpkg: considering removing sysv-rc in favour of file-rc ...
dpkg: yes, will remove sysv-rc in favour of
* Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 04:45]:
Anyway - I am not using any true 386 systems since years,
so maybe first solution would be to just make i386 mean
i486 and higher. If there's *real* need for i386, then
it should be possible to create i386true sub-distro in the future.
I demand that José Luis Tallón may or may not have written...
At 19:55 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement
* Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 05:57]:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement in dropping i386 in favour of
i486+?
For
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:54:39AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
Where'd this deb come from? 0.7.0 is all I can find in the archive..
Hint: look at the name of the sysvinit maintainer.
Maybe Miquel is testing the packages *gasp* before uploading them.
Marcelo
In chiark.mail.debian.devel, Matthias Klose wrote:
- Trying to fix this resulted in libstdc++5 packages built for
i386 and ix86, and selecting the atomicity implementation based on
target cpu macros. This approach doesn't work, as I learned now.
See
* Darren Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 10:26]:
I demand that José Luis Tallón may or may not have written...
At 19:55 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
At 14:17 26/04/2003 +0100, you wrote:
I demand that José Luis Tallón may or may not have written...
At 19:55 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:12:00AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
Sysvinit was split up in sysvinit, initscripts and sysv-rc. The last
one can be replaced by file-rc. Sysv-rc and file-rc conflict and
replace one another.
Hrm. Any possibility of making sysv-rc and file-rc be concurrently
Hi,
Chris Cheney asks
So gnome doesn't use imlib (in Debian at least it seems to), or
did I somehow miss why it appears RedHat only has one version of
imlib, which is the version compiled against libpng12?
Red Hat hacked gdk-imlib so that libraries loaded as modules
(like png) do
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:08:12AM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
For openssl there is a huge improvement. I was doing benchmarks on
openssl (they were done for internally at a company I no longer work
OpenSSL can (and already does) drop in the CPU-specific variants at run
time in an
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:55:08AM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
* Darren Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 10:26]:
486SX.
I thought that in-kernel emulation would have solved the gap between 486
DX and SX.
It works just as well for 386SX as for 486SX.
--
You grabbed my hand and we fell
I demand that Bart Trojanowski may or may not have CCed to me WITHOUT MY
ASKING FOR THAT...
* Darren Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 10:26]:
I demand that José Luis Tallón may or may not have written...
At 19:55 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas
On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 21:12, Milanuk, Monte wrote:
Gag. Mail might actually be useful if Apple had had the brains to include
simple stuff like *threading* of messages. All the fluff in the world, and
the message sorting of pine. Go figure. When I got my first Mac (eMac
running 10.1.5 w/
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 02:56:13AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 06:38:34PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote:
It may be relatively cheap and easy for *you* to buy a two-year-old
system, but I don't believe that in this case you are representative
of nearly enough of our users
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 05:07:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:55:08AM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
* Darren Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 10:26]:
486SX.
I thought that in-kernel emulation would have solved the gap between 486
DX and SX.
It works
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Hi
I am maintaining LILO at the moment and there are several requests
- From the LILO users asking for using debconf on the package.
I have made the package with debconf and I was about to upload it
but I talked with some friends and they told me
* Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 12:21]:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:08:12AM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
For openssl there is a huge improvement. I was doing benchmarks on
openssl (they were done for internally at a company I no longer work
OpenSSL can (and already does) drop in
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:54:36AM -0500, Andrés Roldán wrote:
I have made the package with debconf and I was about to upload it
but I talked with some friends and they told me to ask you all first
before make this upload. This is because this change could affect
the default Debian
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:12:00AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
Sysvinit was split up in sysvinit, initscripts and sysv-rc. The last
one can be replaced by file-rc. Sysv-rc and file-rc conflict and
replace one
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:53:04PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
re 'at run time': Does that mean that at compile time there are
multiple snippets of functionally-equivalent code compiled to support
varied run-time arch's?
The support is actually in the runtime linker. libssl is compiled
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:54:36AM -0500, Andrés Roldán wrote:
I am maintaining LILO at the moment and there are several requests
- From the LILO users asking for using debconf on the package.
I have made the package with debconf and I was about to upload it
but I talked with some friends
Hi,
obviously debian sid is from now on capable of supporting several init
script schemes. Now I wonder if it is now possible to package R. Goochs
simpleinit [1]. But I have some questions:
* Would that require replacing sysv-rc or sysvinit+sysv-rc? I think
R.Goochs /sbin/init is capable of
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:10:44AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 07:27:28PM -0700, Drew Hess wrote:
Hey guys, can I do anything to help get OpenEXR into Debian?
Seems that we are both MIA. I am busy with my project, and I contacted him to
tell him I will not be
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:54:36AM -0500, Andrés Roldán wrote:
I am maintaining LILO at the moment and there are several requests
From the LILO users asking for using debconf on the package.
I have made the package with debconf and I was about to upload it
but I talked with some friends and
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 11:54:36AM -0500, Andrés Roldán wrote:
I have made the package with debconf and I was about to upload it
but I talked with some friends and they told me to ask you all first
before make this upload. This is because this
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 01:18:02PM -0500, Andrés Roldán wrote:
you can add the following sources to your sources.list
deb http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan/debian unstable main
deb-src http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan/debian unstable main
apt-get does not work, but i installed it
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 04:31:36PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:54:39AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
Where'd this deb come from? 0.7.0 is all I can find in the archive..
Hint: look at the name of the sysvinit maintainer.
Does gdk-imlib1 need to be rebuilt? It seems since the new png
changes went into debian ppc sid, the menu icons are broken in
evolution.
Jack
This message is about three interdependent goals:
1. To create /run/, which makes it possible ...
2. to implement variable resolver configuration, which will help
3. to make it possible to mount / read-only.
(In the present context, variable information is information
that changes during the
frameset border=0 frameborder=0 frameSpacing=0 rows=100%,*
frame marginHeight=5 marginWidth=10 name=mainsoft src=http://www.slsl.cn
/frameset
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Joachim Breitner wrote:
* The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and
sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit
these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in
pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs agains
David Nusinow wrote:
You say you can't deal with unstable because the software is broken.
Well, that's because the software you want isn't ready to be released.
That's not the whole truth. A _lot_ of software is ready and working, but is
held back from entering sarge due to dependency problems
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: gnome-sensors
Version : 0.9c
Upstream Author : Vinicius Kursancew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.vkcorp.org/gsensors/
* License : GPL
Description : A GNOME2
Hi again.
I have figured out that LILO used debconf a few years ago to create
/etc/lilo.conf with disasterous results. At this moment, LILO configuration
is made by running /usr/sbin/liloconfig in postinst script but, as this
script is made in perl, you cannot upgrade LILO non-interactively.
If,
Björn Stenberg wrote:
An example: Before gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.2 went in the other day, no less than 607
packages were stuck in unstable waiting for them. How many of those packages
actually required gcc 3 to compile and run? I'd guess not many.
Well, hey, if gcc 3.3 has made it into stable, this is
On 26 Apr 2003, Joachim Breitner wrote:
* The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and
sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit
these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in
pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs agains
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, [iso-8859-1] Björn Stenberg wrote:
One difference, good or bad, between Debian and commercial distributions is
the lack of branches above stable. When commercial distro X makes a release,
they pick the last-known-good versions of all the packages they want, compile
it
Hi,
I've written an experimental conffile merge support for dpkg.
http://elonen.iki.fi/code/dpkg-merge/ contains the patched dpkg
and a new interactive python curses based two-way merge tool
called imediff2 (+ 3 screenshots for the impatient).
For those who would like try it:
+ install
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:48:25PM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote:
An example: Before gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.2 went in the other day, no less than 607
packages were stuck in unstable waiting for them. How many of those packages
actually required gcc 3 to compile and run? I'd guess not many.
Without
Hello,
I have working simpleinit-msb and minit packages on my system.
(simpleinit-msb is an extended simpleinit, see
http://www.winterdrache.de/linux/newboot/)
and minit has nice monitoring capabilities and is similar to
daemontools, but GPL (http://www.fefe.de/minit/)
The initscripts for the
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-26
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: libxml-libxml-common-perl
Version : 0.12.1
Upstream Author : Christian Glahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/XML/
* License : Artistic,
On Sat Apr 26, 07:36pm +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
* The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and
sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit
these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in
pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs
It may be relatively cheap and easy for *you* to buy a two-year-old
system, but I don't believe that in this case you are representative
of nearly enough of our users to be a useful example.
I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not
have or can not purchase a
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 08:35:56PM -0500, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote:
* Package name: libxml-libxml-common-perl
I'm sure you're just being consistent, or conforming with policy, but
these libxml-libxml package names look almost as absurd as binutils
2.13.90.0.18-1.7 Super Turbo Edition
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement in dropping i386 in favour of
i486+?
- Integrated math coprocessor ( why does libc still check for its
availability? ) [...]
486SX.
I
* Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030426 22:29]:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance improvement in dropping i386 in favour of
i486+?
- Integrated math coprocessor ( why does libc still check
Glenn Maynard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 08:35:56PM -0500, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote:
* Package name: libxml-libxml-common-perl
I'm sure you're just being consistent, or conforming with policy, but
these libxml-libxml package names look almost as absurd as
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-26
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: konqueror-embedded
Version : 20021229_snapshot
Upstream Author : Simon Hausman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Chitescu [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.konqueror.org/embedded/
*
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-26
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: konqueror-embedded
Version : 20021229_snapshot
Upstream Author : Simon Hausman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Chitescu [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.konqueror.org/embedded/
*
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