Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:57:50PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in Cuba than in US. Really. Who wouldn't? You got the sun, the beaches and the ocean... what more could you ask for than a debconf on a beach? -- Duncan Findlay

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:51:05AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: SuSE don't have a single kernel source either. They have a set of a few hundred common patches plus some more patches (e.g. 200 for s390) that are used only for one architecture, usually both 32 and 64 bit. Single patches can be

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: It's not noise at all when it's something that we and others (desperately!) want to know about. Then read through the prepatch diffs, everything adding checks to ioctl methods or similar is likely one them.

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:10:20PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: in task_struct then perhaps so assuming that we care about it enough to do it in such a way. Otherwise I don't see your point. Are task_struct and mm_struct exposed to modules? Yes. they should need to be, but I am no

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 06:21:00AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: It's not noise at all when it's something that we and others (desperately!) want to know about. Then read through the prepatch diffs, everything adding checks

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-25 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote: Hi, [1] = Mono for Debian, ipv6 (is it official or unofficial?), ddtp, ... IPv6 is an official subproject founded by Craig Small, even if we host experimental packages outside Debian for various reasons. Thanks Fabio -- Our mission: make IPv6 the

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Goulais, Raphael wrote: On Friday 23 May 2003 03:52, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1. Does this mean that debian policy is that DD

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 24 May 2003 08:43:12 +1000 (EST), Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 22 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point?

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 23 May 2003 20:01:48 -0500, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not at all. I know that if your economy suffers, mine suffers doubly so. Mexico is so heavily dependent on the US economy that if you enter a mild recession we are in crisis... And it is not nice at all. The

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-25 Thread Craig Small
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IPv6 is an official subproject founded by Craig Small, even if we host experimental packages outside Debian for various reasons. I think that might be way, way too formal for what it is. I'm not too fussed what it is called as it was setup

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: OK, barring any major objections, that's how it will be for 2.4.21. Is there any possibility of having the various foo-modules-2.4.xx packages be built concurrently with kernel-image-2.4.xx too? Something like:

retitle 180188 ITA: Defoma

2003-05-25 Thread Debian Font Manager
retitle 180188 ITA: Defoma -- Debian Font Manager N.B. Here follows the description as is in the stable distribution: Defoma, which stands for DEbian FOnt MAnager, provides a framework of automatic font configuration. An application whose configuration of fonts requires users' hand can make the

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 25 May 2003 15:11, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 06:21:00AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: It's not noise at all when it's something that we and others (desperately!) want to know about. Then read

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-25 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Craig Small wrote: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IPv6 is an official subproject founded by Craig Small, even if we host experimental packages outside Debian for various reasons. I think that might be way, way too formal for what it is. I'm not too

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:11:44AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Then read through the prepatch diffs, everything adding checks to ioctl methods or similar is likely one them. This approach does not scale. Right, you got it. Similarly it doesn't scale to announce all these bits. Just

Re: retitle 180188 ITA: Defoma

2003-05-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2003-05-25 at 02:14, Debian Font Manager wrote: retitle 180188 ITA: Defoma -- Debian Font Manager I see defoma has become so complex it now is capable of maintaining itself :)

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:57:50PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in Cuba than in US. Really. Who wouldn't? You got the sun, the beaches and the ocean... what more could you

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Having kernel modules associated with the kernel source package they're built for makes it a bunch easier to make sure they're deleted from the archive along with the corresponding kernel images, and makes sure that when someone uploads a new

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a living. Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_ country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the consequences. And what is US trying to do to

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Saturday 24 May 2003 00:43, Matthew Palmer wrote: * The rest of the world is sick to death of US imperialism; * The US government ignores world opinion and does it's thing; * The rest of the world puts pressure on the US people to change things, since they've at least got half a chance to

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:33:04PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Having kernel modules associated with the kernel source package they're built for makes it a bunch easier to make sure they're deleted from the archive along with the corresponding kernel

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Mathieu Roy
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a living. Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_ country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 25 May 2003 19:33, Herbert Xu wrote: In the long term, we should have as few binary module packages as possible. They should either be integrated into our kernel-source if it is popular enough or made source-only so that the people who really need them can build them privately. I

pre-orphaning lft

2003-05-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
I'm not officially orphaning it yet, but if anybody cares about this please take it, as I'm not using it much. Package: lft Priority: optional Section: net Version: 2.1-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.1-1), libpcap0.7 Size: 33910 Description: display the route packets take to a network host/socket lft

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:20:39PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: What is the status of the pcmcia support anyway? Seems to work fine. Red Hat uses inkernel pcmcia at least. There's some pcmcia drivers not (yet?) merged in the kernel but patching them in is rather easy.

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Arnd Bergmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 25 May 2003 06:19, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:51:05AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: As a real-world example, kernel-patch-s390 can provide the ptrace bug fix from Martin Schwidefsky, while kernel-patch-debian

assign, reassign, close bug without even telling why

2003-05-25 Thread Mathieu Roy
About http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=183858 Given the information I previously provided, I do not even understand how it's possible to think that the bug 183858 is a kernel issue. I'm not familiar with the kernel neither with coreutils code. That said, I explicitely said when

assign, reassign, close bug without even telling why

2003-05-25 Thread Mathieu Roy
I've just compiled coreutils 4.5.3 and still got the bug. So the bug is maybe really a kernel issue, but informations when closing bug is still important. And the bug exists, even if it need to be reassigned. -- Mathieu Roy Homepage: http://yeupou.coleumes.org Not a native english

Re: Bug#183858: assign, reassign, close bug without even telling why

2003-05-25 Thread Jim Meyering
Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=183858 Given the information I previously provided, I do not even understand how it's possible to think that the bug 183858 is a kernel issue. The problem is that the kernel provides no way to get the

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:23:44AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:11:44AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Then read through the prepatch diffs, everything adding checks to ioctl methods or similar is likely one them. This approach does not scale. Right,

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:09:51PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2003 15:11, Matt Zimmerman wrote: This approach does not scale. I cannot personally review the diffs for every upstream release of all the software in Debian, nor can any other individual or even a small group.

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:34:50PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: When building kernel-image-s390, make-kpkg would first apply the arch specific patches and the the arch independent ones that have not been superceded by an arch specific one. Again that's a very bad idea.

Re: Bug#183858: assign, reassign, close bug without even telling why

2003-05-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:51:17PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: The problem is that the kernel provides no way to get the required information. s/no way/no reasonable way/ It is possible to parse /proc/cpuinfo (that's what the experimental patch in the debian coreutils-4.5.2-1 did) but that's a

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread Graham Wilson
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Goulais, Raphael wrote: On Friday 23 May 2003 03:52, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1. Does this mean that debian policy is that DD

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread John Belmonte
Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Also, he seems to have no official status whatsoever; if he's serious about wanting to maintain stuff, he is welcome to go through the NM process. Part of the NM process can be packaging by way of a sponsor. I would guess that it's common for a person's advocate (required to

Re: lintian: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath, --disable-rpath doesn't help

2003-05-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:43:13AM +0200, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:58:35PM +0200, Sebastian Muszynski wrote: Hello all! I am getting a lintian error, binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath although i run configure with --disable-rpath option. It is no automake problem...

Re: debconfig: package description

2003-05-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:13:29PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: from time to time, especially while upgrading a lot of packages I notice debconfig questions for packages I do not know. This is of course quite likely given the size of debian archive and the fact, that task packages introduce a

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Graham Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1. Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ? i would hope not, though, in this case, it does not

Re: Bug#183858: assign, reassign, close bug without even telling why

2003-05-25 Thread Mathieu Roy
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:51:17PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: The problem is that the kernel provides no way to get the required information. s/no way/no reasonable way/ It is possible to parse /proc/cpuinfo (that's what the experimental patch

Re: Bug#183858: assign, reassign, close bug without even telling why

2003-05-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:00:07PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: That said, removing -p and -i option may be problematic. It should be done upstream. I'm tired of people complaining about the unknown entries. They're not required and they are useless on these systems, so there's no point in having

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 May 2003 12:20:45 +0200, Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a living. Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread Graham Wilson
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:16:21AM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Goulais, Raphael wrote: On Friday 23 May 2003 03:52, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:59:32AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Have you seen US developers try to raise common cause here to boycott French products and conferences in France (because of what some consider their silly stnace in removing a dictator from power)? No? How many of you

Re: lintian: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath, --disable-rpath doesn't help

2003-05-25 Thread Sylvain LE GALL
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 06:41:34PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:43:13AM +0200, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:58:35PM +0200, Sebastian Muszynski wrote: Hello all! I am getting a lintian error, binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath although i run

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Mathieu Roy
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On 25 May 2003 12:20:45 +0200, Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a living.

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable. Which part of the US? Sorry I should have said Northeast US. It's absolutely miserable here. Surely the weather in Los Angeles

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that the US governement never said that was their aim, The aim is Kralizec -- the typhoon struggle. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote: PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in Cuba than in US. Really. So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are occasionally subject to bureaucratic hassles, (assuming Russell and Geordies' sources amount to

Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

2003-05-25 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, I want to package GnuMed which is a Python application accessing PostgreSQL server. http://bugs.debian.org/166282 It comes with a Python bootstrap routine. That means the postinst script would need a working Python and PostgreSQL server installed. I think I would solve this by a

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread Joey Hess
Graham Wilson wrote: i would hope not, though, in this case, it does not matter, since aaron responded before moron did. Passing a package off is not a race to post first. If I am passing a package on, I will pick whomever I feel is best suited to maintain it. And yes, that will generally be

Debian-IN

2003-05-25 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Now that GNOME (via pango) and KDE (via the upcoming Qt 3.2.0) have viable support, I wonder if there is any interest in a sub-project for increasing the support for Indian languages within Debian? The goals of Debian-IN as I see it would be to 1. Package Indic software or write it as

Re: Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

2003-05-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:56:04PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I want to package GnuMed which is a Python application accessing PostgreSQL server. http://bugs.debian.org/166282 It comes with a Python bootstrap routine. That means the postinst script would need a working Python and

debian-exim mailing list?

2003-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi, I'm perplexed about the mailing list request about Exim. On one hand, exim is an important package, and there are already ample precedents like debian-apache, debian-ssh and debian-tetex-maint; but on the other hand, there's alioth.debian.org which allows for easier creation and maintenance

Re: debian-exim mailing list?

2003-05-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:03:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: but on the other hand, there's alioth.debian.org which allows for easier creation and maintenance of per-package mailing lists. we should generally decide to migrate (all) mailinglists, or only create new project mailinglists and not

Re: debian-x86-64 mailing list has been created

2003-05-25 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 10:34:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Hi, $Subject. Enjoy. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x86-64/ thanks Josip! CCing debian-devel as there likely are people interested around. -- Robert Millan make: *** No rule to make target `war'. Stop. Another world is

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Adam Majer
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote: PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in Cuba than in US. Really. So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are occasionally subject to

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote: PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in Cuba than in US. Really. So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are occasionally subject to

Re: Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

2003-05-25 Thread Adam Majer
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:50:03PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:56:04PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I want to package GnuMed which is a Python application accessing PostgreSQL server. http://bugs.debian.org/166282 It comes with a Python bootstrap

Re: Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

2003-05-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:30:08PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:50:03PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: For python, you only need to declare Depends: python to ensure that python is installed and configured when your postinst runs. Wouldn't you need predepends? No.

Re: debian-exim mailing list?

2003-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:36:23PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: but on the other hand, there's alioth.debian.org which allows for easier creation and maintenance of per-package mailing lists. we should generally decide to migrate (all) mailinglists, or only create new project mailinglists

Re: debian-exim mailing list?

2003-05-25 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 25 May 2003 23:03:36 +0200, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm perplexed about the mailing list request about Exim. On one hand, exim is an important package, and there are already ample precedents like debian-apache, debian-ssh and debian-tetex-maint; but on the other hand, there's

Re: debian-exim mailing list?

2003-05-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:53:31PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2003 23:03:36 +0200, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm perplexed about the mailing list request about Exim. On one hand, exim is an important package, and there are already ample precedents like debian-apache,

Re: debian-exim mailing list?

2003-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:53:31PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: Please note that the mailing list request was filed months ago - well before alioth went into service - and that your e-mail is the first reaction to the bug report filed. Yes, I know. We actually discussed on the internal exim

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 12:19:57PM -0400, John Belmonte wrote: Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Also, he seems to have no official status whatsoever; if he's serious about wanting to maintain stuff, he is welcome to go through the NM process. Part of the NM process can be packaging by way of a sponsor.

Re: Bug#194155: ITP: ehnt -- Extreme Happy Netflow Tool - Obtains useful information out of netflow data

2003-05-25 Thread Brian May
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 04:04:50PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: You might have made the effort of filling in the fields; I can't believe the version is x.y.z, the upstream author is Name [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Especially the license... Obviously the upstream author is very flexible... ;-).

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-25 Thread Jonathan Oxer
On Sat, 2003-05-24 at 15:27, Brian May wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:25:29PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote: Do we need some method of deciding what constitutes 'the' Debconf? No, as everyone knows that the only true Debconf are the ones in Australia, with LCA. Hehe, preach it brother ;-)

Bug#194705: ITP: yavipin -- daemon for creating secure tunnels

2003-05-25 Thread Graham Wilson
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: yavipin Version : 0.9.6 Upstream Author : Jerome Etienne jme at off.net * URL : http://yavipin.sf.net/ * License : GPL [1] Description : daemon for creating secure

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Packages Developers Looks like a normal distribution curve in gnuplot. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~jaq

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? When tourism