Work-needing packages report for Aug 22, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread wnpp
Report about packages that need work for Aug 22, 2003 Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 58 Number of packages offered up for adoption this week: 0 Total number of orphaned packages: 193 Number of packages orphaned this week: 19 The number in parenthesis after each package name is

Release-critical Bugreport for August 22, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread BugScan reporter
Bug stamp-out list for Aug 22 06:00 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 807 Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 17 Number that have a patch: 142 Number that have a fix prepared and waiting to upload: 26 Number that are being ignored: 20 Explanation for

Nuova manifestazione di OpenLabs il 30 agosto a Milano

2003-08-22 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Ciao a tutti, OpenLabs sta organizzando un giorno ludico per festeggiare i 10 anni di Debian. (Ogni scusa è buona per giocare ... :-) Molto probabilmente ci sarà anche una sezione di hacking per chi voglia dedicarsi, magari in gruppo, a sistemare qualche RC bug in vista della release di fine

Re: someone interested in adopting grub-client?

2003-08-22 Thread dstibbe
Hi! grub-client is a distributed webcrawler client written in c++. The biggest problem with it is that it simply doesn't work, and I don't grok why. I'm not that familar with c++ and multithreading and don't know where to look for the bug. Furthermore it seems that on the search

Reply from Linux usage counter

2003-08-22 Thread Linux Counter
The subject line of your message was Re: Wicked screensaver. This did NOT contain the word Linux. The counter has unfortunately been the recipient of many sorts of messages, some of which were not intended as registrations. Therefore, the subject line MUST include Linux to perform a simple

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:37, Marc Singer wrote: Are we expecting the latest unstalble gcc compiler to correctly compiler the kernel? Yes, as others have mentioned the code in question is buggy. If the code is in a Debian kernel-source or kernel-patch package then please file a bug report. --

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am receiving notices of returned mail from people that I never wrote to or do not know. Why am I getting these. Today I've gotten at least 10. I hope I'm reporting this to the correct person. Please help if possible. It's a virus. Email

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, Since I am no longer merely an interested observer in the GR process, this is going to be hard. When we talked about this the last time around, in the summer on 2000, there were two camp, with two wildly different interpretations of the constitution. Given the

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:38, rintek wrote: As for Adamantix people helping out, they haven't even posted to this mailing list yet, so I have no great expectations for them to help in future. Please have a look at your email Yes, I lived in the Netherlands for 2 years of the time I spent

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:39:52PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: Well for now I'm going to solve the immediate policy violation by reducing webmin.orig.tar.gz. I'll implement your scheme when the new release comes GREAT! out in the next couple of weeks. (Perhps you'd like to file a wishlist

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:24:04PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: For the auto-responders you can write to them directly and ask them to make their machines stop sending email to you. This won't work if the auto-response is a bounce message, eg. user doesn't exist... -- Brian May [EMAIL

Re: Reply from Linux usage counter

2003-08-22 Thread ben
Linux Counter wrote: The subject line of your message was Re: Wicked screensaver. the linux counter got spammed! now, that's just f..kin' rude. ben

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Simon Law
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:24:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] == 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election 4.1. Powers Together, the Developers may: 1. Appoint or recall the

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:51, Brian May wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:24:04PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: For the auto-responders you can write to them directly and ask them to make their machines stop sending email to you. This won't work if the auto-response is a bounce message, eg. user

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Teófilo Ruiz Suárez | What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache? No. (Wearing apache apache2 maintainer hat.) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :'

Re: Patents, gimp-nonfree and LAME

2003-08-22 Thread Paul C. Bryan
Josip Rodin wrote: BTW gimp(1.2)-nonfree was recently obsoleted. Because it is making way for 1.3 presumably?

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin von Brederlow | The bandwith for buildds is a fixed price and already paid/sponsored. | Whats variable is the traffic. How can you say that? It might be on an ADSL line or something. | What I ment was its muchs faster to upload way less data. I doubt the buildds have a much faster

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-22 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 02:21:55PM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: No, it is based on the assumption that a buildd will only install things listed in the Build-Depends, which means it will catch stuff that only builds on the maintainers workstation because they aren't building inside a chroot and are

Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Eh. Personally I tend to doubt it's lack of trust that's causing translations to rot in the BTS. As far as I know this is more maintainer laziness, for sure.. :-) I guess that in the future many translation will stop to rot in the BTS.. :-) We'll

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2003-08-22 Thread tolevo
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Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 22 Aug 2003 03:58:03 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 03:05:00PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: But sometimes there are fundamental disagreements about how something should be packaged and then it must

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, ooops. This should have gone to debian-vote. Could prospective seconds, and Simon, please send the email to debian-vote, rather than here? I apologize for the inconvenience. manoj -- He knew the tavernes well in every toun. Geoffrey Chaucer Manoj Srivastava

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-22 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Quinson wrote: I just wondered if it would be possible for non-developper contributors to Debian to get their GPG key in the Debian keyserver. No. The contents Debian keyserver keyring.debian.org reflect the list of registered Debian developers who also have an account on about all

Re: Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-22 Thread Karl Ramm
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Essential packages which currently pre-depend on libpam0g (read: login) will also need a versioned Pre-Depends on libpam-runtime before adopting this scheme, so that they are usable in an unconfigured state. Please consider this an introduction

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:18, Jérôme Marant wrote: No, no, no! You don't get it. There may be a majority among the debian-legal zealots, but we need a consensus among Debian as a whole (which means voting of course). mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 09:49, Adrian von Bidder wrote: ... what KDE, gcc, X, gnome versions will be in sarge? And what about postfix? 2.0 is in unstable quite a while and works ok. I guess it will make it to sarge. cheers -- vbi -- Jack Nicklaus hit a golf shot that only gravity kept

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. Where has you sense of humour gone? More seriously, I do not consider that

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROTFL. Am I the only one who interpreted this as a joke? Humpf, as even Branden sent a sincere follow-up I think I am missing something important. Perhaps the word cabal was missing? Throwing in some darn might have helped, too. Jérôme, please

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
I would suggest a small modification: * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030822 07:05]: + 5.2 Initially, the list of foundation Documents consists + of this document, The Debian Constitution, as well as the + documents known as the Debian Social Contract and the +

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:35, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A paper on udev was presented at OLS this year, at the URL below you can find a copy in PDF format. Basically it is a way of providing some of the features of devfs but based around using

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow | The bandwith for buildds is a fixed price and already paid/sponsored. | Whats variable is the traffic. How can you say that? It might be on an ADSL line or something. Have fun building kde i18n. Its 200MB sources alone

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:24:04PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: For the auto-responders you can write to them directly and ask them to make their machines stop sending email to you. This won't work if the auto-response is a bounce message, eg. user

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Brian May wrote: You obviously did not understand my scheme then. webmin-postfix and webmin-sendmail would still get built as seperate *.deb packages. They just share the one source package. Oh yeah alright. Now I

Re: ITP: ncurses-ruby - ruby extension for the ncurses C library

2003-08-22 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:44:02PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: BA I intend to package ncurses-ruby, which is a ruby extension for the BA ncurses C library. It is placed under the LGPL 2.1. It's required BA by raggle. BA BA http://ncurses-ruby.berlios.de Isn't libcurses-ruby what you are

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 09:58:30AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote: JrmM Branden's survey is misleading and assumes that documentation is JrmM software. It is unfair and doesn't count. Hey, Branden, how about another survey, about whether documentation is software or not, and whether documentation

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Chris Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 02:21:55PM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: No, it is based on the assumption that a buildd will only install things listed in the Build-Depends, which means it will catch stuff that only builds on the maintainers workstation because

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Eh. Personally I tend to doubt it's lack of trust that's causing translations to rot in the BTS. As far as I know this is more maintainer laziness, for sure.. :-) I guess that in the future many

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:46:42AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow | The bandwith for buildds is a fixed price and already paid/sponsored. | Whats variable is the traffic. How can you say that? It might be on an ADSL

Re: udev [Was: Re: stack protection]

2003-08-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 22, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm basically just intrested in whats needed in /dev/ to get udev started and what userspace tools udev needs on a initrd. Whatever is already needed to make your system boot. So far udev will only create nodes for plug and play devices.

Re: ITP: ncurses-ruby - ruby extension for the ncurses C library

2003-08-22 Thread Brian Almeida
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:58:25PM +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:44:02PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: BA I intend to package ncurses-ruby, which is a ruby extension for the BA ncurses C library. It is placed under the LGPL 2.1. It's required BA by raggle. BA

ITH: icu

2003-08-22 Thread Ivo Timmermans
Hi, We (Daniel Glassey and Ivo Timmermans) are going to take over the package icu from Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Yves has failed to respond (his hotmail address, that he last used in communication, is over quotum, and other email went unanswered) to bugs and other email. We will upload a

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:39:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Which means you need about 100 device nodes so you can boot of any of the 65536 disks you could have connected? Why? The kernel currently has hardcoded logic to convert the root=... string into a major,minor number, it

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:54:52AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: But then again a bug in webim-sendmail would keep webmin-postfix out of testing. But that shouldn't be a problem if you fix RC bugs quickly. True. Especially since sendmail has a history of security problems... The exact

exec-shield (Was: stack protection)

2003-08-22 Thread Ondej Sur
What about exec-shield by Ingo Molnar? http://people.redhat.com/mingo/exec-shield/ it seems it is less intrusive then other kernel patches and can be enabled/disabled at run-time Stripped from annoucement: The exec-shield feature provides protection against stack, buffer or function pointer

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:51:29AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: That usually contains the original message as attachment so your virus filter should catch and destroy those. :) Actually I got one such message where amavisd-new/clamav didn't detect anything wrong. LATER: I see why, the

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 09:33:37PM +1000, Brian May wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:51:29AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: That usually contains the original message as attachment so your virus filter should catch and destroy those. :) Actually I got one such message where

Please help spreading the online protest against SWPats

2003-08-22 Thread Felix E. Klee
Dear Debian Developers, as some of you might have read on DWN the FFII is organizing some last minute protest against Software Patent legalization in the EU (the European Parliament plans to vote on this topic in the week beginning with September 1st). To find more information about the protest

Re: Bug#206576: ITP: livejournal -- The code that runs livejournal

2003-08-22 Thread Christian Surchi
Il gio, 2003-08-21 alle 17:35, Jay Bonci ha scritto: * Package name: livejournal Version : 2003042200 Upstream Author : Brad Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.livejournal.com/code * License : LGPL (possibly others, clarifying) Description

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We'll start with french translations. Not a lot of them are sleeping, because we already pissed off some maintainers, or even did some NMU's (yes, for wishlist bugs...). I feel this is utter bullshit, personally. One shouldn't be NMU'ing for

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I feel this is utter bullshit, personally. One shouldn't be NMU'ing for wishlist bugs. If the package isn't maintained then hijack it instead. If you don't have time to do that then there's no way in hell you should be NMU'ing it anyway. If no one

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-22 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: http://zoy.org/~sam/debian/barrendero_1.0-1.1.diff.gz I haven't contacted the maintainer yet because I was working on other bugs, but if he is MIA as you seem to be suggesting, I'll probably upload that NMU to DELAYED quite soon. Ok,

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Richard Braakman
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:28:52AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Jérôme, please use darn cabal of debian-legal zealots next time. cu and- triple reading the original mail, stil smiling -reas And don't forget to call them licensing geeks! Richard Braakman

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:17:04 +0200, Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Quoting Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. Where

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Advantage: This makes the list in 5.2 the authoritative list, which makes it easier later to see which documents are in fact foundation Documents. (Or to speak in computer slang: normalization of data.) I agree with this change, other comments?

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:28:52AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Jérôme, please use darn cabal of debian-legal zealots next time. cu and- triple reading the original mail, stil smiling -reas And don't forget to call them licensing geeks! Do

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 09:55:51AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We'll start with french translations. Not a lot of them are sleeping, because we already pissed off some maintainers, or even did some NMU's (yes, for wishlist bugs...). I feel

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Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I feel this is utter bullshit, personally. One shouldn't be NMU'ing for wishlist bugs. If the package isn't maintained then hijack it instead. If you don't have time to do that then there's no way in

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 04:53:30PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote: Quoting Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:28:52AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: J?r?me, please use darn cabal of debian-legal zealots next time. cu and- triple reading the original mail, stil

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I, for sure, cannot hijack any package for which nothing has been done for translation related bugs. I would quickly end up with dozens of packages I'm responsible for, the majority of which I'm perfectly unable to maintain. If you can't

Automatic response to your mail

2003-08-22 Thread info
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Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I, for sure, cannot hijack any package for which nothing has been done for translation related bugs. I would quickly end up with dozens of packages I'm responsible for, the majority of which I'm

Re: Patents, gimp-nonfree and LAME

2003-08-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:50:54PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: BTW gimp(1.2)-nonfree was recently obsoleted. Because it is making way for 1.3 presumably? No, I believe it's gone because libtiff linkage has been declared non-free by mistake since libtiff was never made to include actual

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
[Followups set.] On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 09:58:30AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: Branden's survey is misleading and assumes that documentation is software. It is unfair and doesn't count. No, my survey is narrowly scoped. It is not the job of the debian-legal mailing list, as I understand it,

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 01:14:40PM +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: Hey, Branden, how about another survey, about whether documentation is software or not, I'm not interested in circulating such a survey. Someone else may wish to, but debian-legal is not an appropriate list for it -- I

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:17:04AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: Quoting Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. Where has you

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:24:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I am now formally looking for seconds for this proposal. Seconded. -- Chad Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wookimus.net/ assert(expired(knowledge)); /* core dump */ pgpSp5kuhETPm.pgp

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-22 Thread Joe Drew
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 01:42, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Teófilo Ruiz Suárez | What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache? No. (Wearing apache apache2 maintainer hat.) What are the criteria for the apache package to become Apache 2?

Re: Re: Patents, gimp-nonfree and LAME

2003-08-22 Thread Jose M. Fdez
Josip Rodin dijo: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:50:54PM -0700, Paul C. Bryan wrote: BTW gimp(1.2)-nonfree was recently obsoleted. Because it is making way for 1.3 presumably? No, I believe it's gone because libtiff linkage has been declared non-free by mistake since libtiff was never made

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:41:40PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 01:42, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Teófilo Ruiz Suárez | What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache? No. (Wearing apache apache2 maintainer hat.) What are the criteria for the apache

ruby1.6 and ruby-defaults 1.6 is uploaded (Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby))

2003-08-22 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
Hi, I uploaded ruby1.6 and ruby-defaults (1.6.8-6) now. Packages built from ruby1.6 source package is simply renamed from ruby 1.6.8-5. I plan ruby 1.8 transition: - Wait a while until ruby1.6 and ruby-defaults are installed, because these are NEW packages. - Keep ruby-defaults to 1.6 for

Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby)

2003-08-22 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:37:17 -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 12:53, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] libtest-unit-ruby1.8 (- libtest-unit-ruby) Actually, I now only maintain Test::Unit for Ruby 1.6. Since it became included with 1.8, akira yamada

Re: Re: Patents, gimp-nonfree and LAME

2003-08-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Jose M. Fdez wrote: Patent on LZW algorithm expired so the support for GIF and TIFF images is now back in the main Gimp package. Only in the US... Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org |

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More seriously, I do not consider that documentation is software and this is the reason why I don't know how to reply to you survey: is this another way to exclude people from discussions? I cannot imagine it wasn't deliberate. So I take it

Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby)

2003-08-22 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:33:10 +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:53:12AM +0900, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: FU Dmitry Borodaenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] FU libyaml-ruby1.8 (- libyaml-ruby) I think that since whytheluckystiff is developing Syck/YAML right in the Ruby CVS,

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Re: Patents, gimp-nonfree and LAME

2003-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jose M. Fdez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030822 21:05]: Patent on LZW algorithm expired so the support for GIF and TIFF images is now back in the main Gimp package. I hope this is not true, otherwise it would be a RC-bug. According to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html the unisys patent |

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:39:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Which means you need about 100 device nodes so you can boot of any of the 65536 disks you could have connected? Why? The kernel currently has hardcoded logic to convert the

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:06:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 09:58:30AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: Branden's survey is misleading and assumes that documentation is software. It is unfair and doesn't count. No, my survey is narrowly scoped. The Social

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030822 22:15]: Depending on the size of udev it might be on the initrd or not. If its not then you need a lot of /dev entries to mount the real root device and get udev started or a extra script that created node on the fly from /proc/something.

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Except what you don't realize is that one should never, ever, ever just NMU and then forget about the package. If you do an NMU then you need to make sure it worked, follow the package and make sure there aren't problems with it and follow up with

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:46:42AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow | The bandwith for buildds is a fixed price and already paid/sponsored. | Whats variable is the traffic.

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Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:24:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Since I am no longer merely an interested observer in the GR process, this is going to be hard. [...] I would like to re-propose what I had proposed on -project more than three years ago: Well, it doesn't look

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: Note that some options are sometimes incompatible with some packages: restrictions on kmem ('Deny writing to /dev/kmem, /dev/mem, and /dev/port') prevent lm_sensors from working properly with my server. But cat /dev/zero /dev/mem

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Except what you don't realize is that one should never, ever, ever just NMU and then forget about the package. If you do an NMU then you need to make sure it worked, follow the package and make sure

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Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Looks like it's time to drop down this one... :-). Such debate with strong opposition would now need a meeting around a beer : we've reached the point where none of us will move anymore.. :-)

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Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:57:53PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Have you ever built kde-i18n? When I last NMUed it it took something like nine hours for my laptop to build it, and my laptop isn't all *that* wimpy. Not surprising given its

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Richard Braakman
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:19:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: No. It's a way to assess whether the silent majority arguments raised by a few loud people on debian-legal, claiming that most people don't really believe that the GNU FDL needs to satisfy the DFSG, are the real consensus view.

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, John Goerzen wrote: The corrolary is that 0% of Debian is non-free software. Documentation is not software at all. Ah. So we're 97% Free Software, 3% Documentation, and 0% Non-Free Software.[1] Thanks for clearing that up. If you take Clause 1 of the Social Contract to

Re: stack protection

2003-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:05:13PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Depending on the size of udev it might be on the initrd or not. If its not then you need a lot of /dev entries to mount the real root device and get udev started or a extra script that created node on the fly from

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Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 22, Brian T. Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, whether the DFSG should apply to documentation in Debian is not relevant to the survey, which asks whether the GFDL complies with the DFSG: we can deal with the insanity of whether this software over here is or is not software

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Bug#206807: ITP: pythoncard -- PythonCard GUI Framework

2003-08-22 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-22 Severity: wishlist * Package name: pythoncard Version : 0.7.2 Upstream Author : PythonCard Developers * URL : http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/ * License : BSD Description : PythonCard GUI Framework

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 05:17:54PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: And, as Steve pointed out, translation stuff is minimalistically invasive so this does not require an enormous amount of attention after the NMU. When you do an NMU you're taking the responsibility to maintain the package

/etc/shells management

2003-08-22 Thread kcr
I just uploaded a version of shadow that provides scripts for the maintenance of /etc/shells. I decided very quickly when I became the shadow maintainer that I didn't want to (and probably wasn't qualified to be) an arbiter of acceptable shells. So: /etc/shells is no longer a config file, but

Accepted mew 1:3.3-2 (i386 source all)

2003-08-22 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:33:42 +0900 Source: mew Binary: mew mew-bin Architecture: source all i386 Version: 1:3.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tatsuya Kinoshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tatsuya Kinoshita [EMAIL

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