Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: The Christian concept of a demon is a corruption (as it were) of the Greek concept of daemon Basically, no arguments with what you said, except I find inconsistent the fact that the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Joel Baker wrote: Besides, using Tolkien names is a long geek tradition. And that's what's wrong with it. The association of geeks and Tolkien is such a cliche[1] Same goes for Pratchett (not to mention he is rather overrated in my opinion.) No if you're going to go

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: And, pray tell, why is that? Hindu mythology had demons far longer than Christianity (indeed, probably longer than any of the faiths of the descendents of Abraham). If you are refering to Asuras, demon isn't quite the right word. They are

Re: Bug#224081: ITP: ttf-tamil-fonts -- Free TrueType fonts for the Tamil language

2003-12-17 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ttf-tamil-fonts Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : The Tamil Linux Project * URL : http://www.tamilinux.org/ * License : GPL Description : Free TrueType

Re: Bug#224081: ITP: ttf-tamil-fonts -- Free TrueType fonts for the Tamil language

2003-12-17 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I made a package called ttf-indic as part of my (rather neglected) Debian-IN project. It contains a couple of Tamil fonts. Is there an overlap with your package? If you would like to help get Debian-IN off the ground it would great. Oops,

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use demon name for keyword if possible. Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear

Bug#223772: Antwort: Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.12.2003 19:15:43: now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package

[OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use demon name for keyword if possible. Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear of a name increases fear for the thing itself. ;-p IOW, lighten up,

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Stephen Depooter
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 12:26, Chad Walstrom wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use demon name for keyword if possible. Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear of a name

Bug#223772: Antwort: Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread werner . thoeni
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.12.2003 19:15:43: now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package (MD5sum). so what I like to say is,

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nathan Hawkins
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:09:37AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:21:24AM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: The Christian concept of a demon is a corruption (as it were) of the Greek concept of daemon Basically, no arguments with what you said, except I find inconsistent the

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Nathan Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you wanted Greek names, there are plenty of obscure nymphs, satyrs, centaurs, etc. to choose from. Since the Greeks classified them as neither evil spirits nor deities, many of them would qualify as daemons in the classical sense. We could also go

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:54:28PM -0500, Stephen Depooter wrote: On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 12:26, Chad Walstrom wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use demon name for keyword if possible.

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: the fact that the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a Christian demon and here's you're saying yes it is. :-) Er, no. I'm not. I'm saying that Christian demons are derived from Greek daemons; that isn't the same

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 03:13:03PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: If we're really worried about this, we can always use the names of the Dwarves in the Hobbit. Most (all?) of those names are from Icelandic sags, IIRC. So is Gandalf. All of them. I suppose they even have enough of the right

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use demon name for keyword if possible. Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:22:07PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: the fact that the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a Christian demon and here's you're saying yes it is. :-) Er, no. I'm not. I'm saying that Christian

Re: experimental codename: scud?

2003-12-17 Thread GCS
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:56:30AM +0100, Toens Bueker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hamish Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming something after a missile seems odd. Question is, after what the missile was named ... If I remember

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:42:27AM -0800, Nunya wrote: IOW, lighten up, people. Otherwise, we'll be referring to Debian GNU/That Which Shall Not Be Named... Nah, bullshit. I've heard enough racists use that kind of reasoning. It's no big deal. Face it, you have to respect people. And

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: And way out from Right Field... http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html go back and count the # of christians are stupid statements substitute any racial or ethnic group for christians see how the statements

Which machine is best to build documentation package?

2003-12-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
My package Debian Reference is large source files and it uses many TeX and SGML tools. Can anyone tell me which machine I should use to build and upload package. Since SSH upload has been disabled, it looks very slow and unreliable to upload. (Does dupload uses -C ? Somehow, I felt faster.)

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort of thing in the context that we were discussing in this portion of the thread. That's another opinion expressed as a

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: And way out from Right Field... http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html go back and count the # of christians are stupid statements substitute

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: And way out from Right Field... http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html go back

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:19:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: I believe that if you cared to do the research on Usenet and mailing list debates of this kind, my statement above is defensible as fact on rigorous statistical grounds. But I don't care enough to do the work to prove that to

Re: experimental codename: scud?

2003-12-17 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:56:21 +0100, GCS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:56:30AM +0100, Toens Bueker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hamish Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming something after a missile seems odd. Question

Re: Bug#224286: ITP: dday -- D-Day Normandy, the original Quake2 WWII modification of First Person Shooters.

2003-12-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
Alejandro Arrieta Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: dday Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : ViperSoft Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.planetquake.com/dday/ * License : (GPL) Description : D-Day

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:16, Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: I wasn't thinking of you, but let's take a quote of yours and see which of these statements is most applicable:

Lustre File System Support?

2003-12-17 Thread Nick Pavlica
All, I'm trying to find a distribution that would be willing to add Lustre file system support (it requires a kernel patch). If this group is interested, then I may be able to gather some resources to help add the support. It has recently reached production status(1.0), and would be a valuable

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics. Godwin. Copout.

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Kevin Kreamer
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Dec 17, 2003, at 10:20, Branden Robinson wrote: Given that we're going to be saddled with with a comprehension problem anyway, I say we abandon the effort to be descriptive in the product name. I proposed having a correlation between the first letter of the

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 05:16:18PM -0800, Nunya wrote: I wasn't thinking of you, but let's take a quote of yours and see which of these statements is most applicable: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200312/msg01512.html: (religious fanatics - the one group that

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 00:21, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: And way out from Right Field... http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html go back and count the # of christians are stupid statements substitute any racial or

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote: Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what you hate. Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like this... If I say I hate Adolf Hitler and his cabinet, is that practising hate speech? Scott -- Have

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to an eternity of suffering as hate speech (and I generally do), I'm on the catching end of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:49:06AM -0800, Nunya wrote: | | I don't believe in magical beings. I *do* believe some humans | | intentionally set out to hurt other humans. Branden's beliefs and | | sneering disdain for some of his fellow humans is quite clear. | | ... and in some cases

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:25:11PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to an eternity of suffering as hate

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed religions, which form a significantly more than majority share of the population of the

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:35:54AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: | You are totally rationalizing. *sigh* From Branden's original post where he mentioned the names: We might use names from Christian demonology (since the BSD mascot is the cute and devilish daemon), with the first letter

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:41AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: | On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote: | | Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what | you hate. | | Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like | this... | | If I

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics. Godwin. Copout. Yes, it is too bad he is copping (sp) out on discussing all sorts of things immediately

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:43, Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed religions, which form a

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Baptist, and Mormon authorities (the latter not technically being considered a sect [...] Since you have no

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote: Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working on Debian and stop trolling now? -- gram signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Baptist, and Mormon authorities (the latter

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote: Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working on Debian and stop trolling now?

Re: Lustre File System Support?

2003-12-17 Thread Joerg Wendland
Nick, *, Nick Pavlica, on 2003-12-17, 16:28, you wrote: I'm trying to find a distribution that would be willing to add Lustre file system support (it requires a kernel patch). If this group is interested, then I may be able to gather some resources to help add the support. It has

Re: Bug#224232: ITP: yahoo2mbox -- retrieve and store Yahoo! Groups messages

2003-12-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:59:33AM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:15:59PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: yahoo2mbox Version : 0.15 Upstream Author : Vadim Zeitlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL

Re: Lustre File System Support?

2003-12-17 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:28:57 -0800 (PST), Nick Pavlica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I'm trying to find a distribution that would be willing to add Lustre file system support (it requires a kernel patch). If this group is interested, then I may be able to gather some resources to help add the

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: I think you trimmed away content that was crucial for understanding the parts you did quote, but whatever. If you need reptition or elaboration, I'll provide it. Please do. I found

Re: Bug#224081: ITP: ttf-tamil-fonts -- Free TrueType fonts for the Tamil language

2003-12-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:08:17PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ttf-tamil-fonts Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : The Tamil Linux Project * URL :

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:19:58PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:03, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be unacceptable about it, and why is it only a borderline case? What would push it over the borderline? Demons are evil, and the BSD mascot is a

Re: No list archives getting updated at all

2003-12-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:17:50 -0600, John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, NNTP is better-suited for it, and BTW is already available at www.gmane.org. If we start referring people to GMANE, we should drop them a load of older list archives for import. They only started in mid-2002.

Re: Debian wxWindows - XML Resources?

2003-12-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: I originally sent the message below to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it seems he's not responding to my mails. Ron is the maintainter of the wxWindows packages for Debian. I was hoping that sending it to this mailinglist would be more fruitful. Please

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for December 12, 2003

2003-12-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 01:49:29PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: No, this points to a problem with the bug list as seen by the testing scripts. update_excuses for gjdoc says gjdoc (source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc) is buggy! (1 0) which is

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experimental codename: scud?

2003-12-17 Thread Hamish Harvey
I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming something after a missile seems odd. Hamish

Re: BTS (Normal and Important) -- more issues?

2003-12-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 06:32:01PM -0500, sean finney wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:22:57PM +, Colin Watson wrote: Fixed now. earlier today i submitted a bug against an orphaned package in wnpp, and haven't yet recieved a reply. normally the replies come back pretty quick (like 5

Office2000

2003-12-17 Thread office
debian-devel:! Office2000 Office2000() http://www.onlinedown.net/soft/5959.htm Office2000 Office2000, Office2000 http://www.newhua.com/soft/4952.htm Office2000 http://www.onlinedown.net/soft/15683.htm ! 2003-12-17

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote: [snip] I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects in general conversation: politics, sex, religion. Yeah, let's avoid conversation altogether, or only talk about the weather... [snip] /David -- /) David

Re: experimental codename: scud?

2003-12-17 Thread Toens Bueker
Hamish Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming something after a missile seems odd. Question is, after what the missile was named ... by Töns -- There is no safe distance.

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:24:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote: [snip] I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects in general conversation: politics, sex, religion. Yeah, let's avoid conversation

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: goswin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 Severity: normal Tags: security Every package has a md5sum in the Package file. the answer is not

Re: experimental codename: scud?

2003-12-17 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 11:56, Toens Bueker wrote: Hamish Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming something after a missile seems odd. Question is, after what the missile was named ... Extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud:

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:10:32AM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:24:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote: [snip] I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects in general conversation:

Bug#224232: ITP: yahoo2mbox -- retrieve and store Yahoo! Groups messages

2003-12-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: yahoo2mbox Version : 0.15 Upstream Author : Vadim Zeitlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~zeitlin/yahoo2mbox.html * License : Public Domain Description : retrieve and store Yahoo!

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 16.12.03 um 17:34:45 schrieb Will Newton: It is worth noting that any project name may also be used for associated domain names, file names etc., so ASCII is nice. Irrelevant with the advent of domain names containing arbitrary Unicode characters. Besides, as was said, there are easily

Re: experimental codename: scud?

2003-12-17 Thread Toens Bueker
Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming something after a missile seems odd. Question is, after what the missile was named ... Extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud: Scud is the NATO reporting name (not

Bug#224234: ITP: clientcookie -- Python module for automating HTTP Cookie management

2003-12-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: clientcookie Version : 0.4.9 Upstream Author : Noah Spurrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/pexpect * License : Python Software Foundation License Description : Python module for

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:49:39PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:03:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:21:30PM +0100, Roland Mas

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:00:56PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:11:20AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Unfortunately, my experience with the topic tends to indicate that the same folks who care are very likely to consider there mere

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:03:00PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [I am not subscribed to debian -bsd.] What would be unacceptable about it, and why is it only a borderline case? What would push it over the borderline? Demons are evil, Demons

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:59:57AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Or read Stephen Brust's _To Reign in Hell_, which posits an alternative explanation of the creation of the world, the nature and causes of the conflict between the angels under Yahweh and those under Satan, and the origin of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:20:32AM -0800, Nunya wrote: [...] a comic which by the way is being made into a movie with Keanu Reeves (it's being filmed as we speak). http://www.insanerantings.com/hell/movie/ [Heaven is oppressive, right-wingers are malevolent, world saved by the paganists/hell.]

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:19:47PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:29:15PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: And, pray tell, why is that? Hindu mythology had demons far longer than Christianity (indeed, probably longer than any of the faiths of the descendents of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:42:47PM -0800, Nunya wrote: I hope I'm attributing correctly. My philosophy of good and evil is private and irrelevant -- but this conversation has made me uncomfortable. I'm killfiling it but -- I'm uncomfortable. Could you take it elsewhere? If you've

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] [We're back off-topic for -legal.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:33:17PM -0500, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have little patience for superstitious beliefs, and less still for people who claim to be defending the

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort of thing in the context that we were discussing in this portion of the thread. That's another

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:37:44PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:53:15PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I doubt you'd have known they were names from Christian demonology if I hadn't told you. I didn't propse that we use better

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less loaded to random fundamentalists, if possible; of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: Catholics compared to their Protestant brethren. I should think if anyone were taught demonology these days, it would be kids in Catholic I knew all about demons around that age, and I'm not even a religious person. Doom taught me everything I

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less loaded to random fundamentalists, if possible; of course, most of the sources on daemons say that they are, as a rule,

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:41:50AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: I consider myself educated, and I've never heard of any demons in school where we had 13 years of religious (catholic) education. I can definitely say that I'm not offended, and I doubt that

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Paul Baker wrote: On Dec 13, 2003, at 3:27 PM, Branden Robinson wrote: Thus: Debian FreeBSD - Debian Forneus (BSD) Debian NetBSD - Debian Naberius (BSD) Debian OpenBSD - Debian Orobos

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:10:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather like the notion of using the Valar - they're

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:42:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:02:44 -0500, Nathan Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it just the same if

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort of thing in the context that we

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather like the notion of using the Valar - they're fictional, and Tolkien's work isn't yet out from under copyright, but they

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you didn't bother to read any of the parts of my message that you didn't quote. I did. But I trimmed away those that were not necessary for the reader to be reminded of the

Re: Bug#224232: ITP: yahoo2mbox -- retrieve and store Yahoo! Groups messages

2003-12-17 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:15:59PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: yahoo2mbox Version : 0.15 Upstream Author : Vadim Zeitlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~zeitlin/yahoo2mbox.html *

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:24:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: | Demons are evil, | | Demons don't exist. Consequently, their moral value is undefinable. I claim that their moral value /is/ definable in the context of a particular mythology even if they don't exist. In the case of the

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Nunya
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31:17AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of parochial religious fundamentalists is showing. I suspect he'd be proud of it. But you'll see for yourself, soon enough. I don't believe in magical beings. I *do*

Need a m68k root access to close this bug [was: Re: Debian Bugs information: logs for Bug#70144]

2003-12-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:31:24 +0100): To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Patch for this (stupid) bug Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tags 70144 patch thanks This is a bug that has been open for over 3 and a half years, easy to fix (patch attached) and deserves a 0-NMU. I

Bug#224286: ITP: dday -- D-Day Normandy, the original Quake2 WWII modification of First Person Shooters.

2003-12-17 Thread Alejandro Arrieta Rios
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: dday Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : ViperSoft Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.planetquake.com/dday/ * License : (GPL) Description : D-Day Normandy, the original Quake2 WWII modification of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: Branden's second proposal of using something from Pratchett did have a nice ring to it, [...] That wasn't my proposal; it was made by Roland Mas in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- G.

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:33:48PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:24:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: | Demons are evil, | | Demons don't exist. Consequently, their moral value is undefinable. I claim that their moral value /is/ definable in the context of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:08:44AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:54:09AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: No, it's probably antipathy for the Free Software Foundation driving this more than anything else. Maybe they'd prefer Debian

Re: Complaint

2003-12-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:58:21PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:37:34AM +1100, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: - As http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png shows, there are some archs already have a working wanna-build access since

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: --cut-- i don't understand your comment above. why is the md5sums file useless and space wasting especially in terms of security? until now, I was of the opinion, that the md5sum gives me the guarantee that a debian package is

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