Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: fairuse
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : Free for non-commercial use
Description : spam filter based on sender identity verification
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: fairuce
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : ghamilt at us dot ibm dot com
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : Free for non-commercial use
Description : Spam filter based on sender identity
* Stephen Birch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041205 09:10]:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: fairuse
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.example.org/
If you don't mind to update this information, it might be good
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:07:05AM -0800, Stephen Birch wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: fairuce
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : ghamilt at us dot ibm dot com
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : Free for non-commercial
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
[1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing,
and UTF-8 seems to be the best solution for this sort of thing.
In my sid control files, I
[Peter Samuelson]
I suggest that the affected source packages[3] be run through the
command 'iconv -f ORIGINAL_CHARSET -t utf-8' as soon as convenient.
Ehhh, I see I have already ruined my credibility by pasting the wrong
source package list. The real list is much shorter.
Apologies,
Peter
* Hamish Moffatt:
FairUCE is a spam filter that prevents spam from reaching the
recipient's inbox by verifying the identity of the sender. It will stop
By what mechanism?
According to the AlphaWorks article, it's mostly a challenge-response
system which suppresses the CR mechanism if some
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 07:14:07PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
Andrew Suffield wrote:
Oh come on, they're at far greater risk from our overly-permissive
approach to copyright and patent issues.
The copyright and patent problems faced by Debian are issues that we
have studied in depth.
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 11:51:29PM -0800, Stephen Birch wrote:
* License : Free for non-commercial use
Subject to license verification (DFSG compliant):
Non-commercial-use-only licenses are non-free.
--
.''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield
: :' :
Andrew Suffield([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2004-12-05 09:55:
Non-commercial-use-only licenses are non-free.
Yup. Sigh. I closed the ITP. It turned out there were several problems
with the package:
1. License not DFSG
2. Coded in Java (I dont do Java)
3. IBM sign up required to access upstream
Is
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 02:23, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Stephen Birch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041205 09:10]:
FairUCE is a spam filter that prevents spam from reaching the
recipient's inbox by verifying the identity of the sender. It will stop
the vast majority of spam without the use of a content
[Peter Samuelson]
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
[1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing,
and UTF-8 seems to be the best solution for this sort of thing.
Some
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 04:31:03PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
David Weinehall wrote:
You *really* need to have a look at the pictures. All of your
argumentation below about pron neatly goes *wooosh*.
I'll take your word. However, we seem to be lacking some process here. I
don't have a
As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the
most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is
likely to hurt the feelings of several women (probably not all, I
don't know) as well as,
* Petter Reinholdtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041205 11:30]:
[Peter Samuelson]
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
[1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing,
and
Pornography may be offensive to some. Is the package description for
hot-babe accurate? Are people who do not want it installed being
forced to install it?
People who may be offended by the package should read its description
and make up their own mind about whether or not they would like to
Scripsit Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So not only does it fail to stop spam in any useful way, it doesn't even
fail to do so according to the standard, and it sends out more email
noise while doing so.
It gets worse yet: the FAQ says
| Legitimate senders know immediately that you haven't
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 10:30 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 04:31:03PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
David Weinehall wrote:
[snip]
Interestingly enough, many people might agree on what could be regarded
as appropriate - is there scope for a Debian-conservative /
Le samedi 04 décembre 2004 à 19:14 -0800, Bruce Perens a écrit :
In contrast, those resources aren't inclined to help us with the
questionable-material problem, and we have not researched it at all. If
we're going to make a stand about it, we'd better start learning.
Then maybe we could
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2004 à 11:43 +0100, Andreas Barth a écrit :
I think most of us agree that non-UTF-8-characters are not a good idea
(please note the UTF-8-characters is a superset of ASCII). For some
places (like package names), I think most of us even agree that only
ASCII-characters
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041205 13:05]:
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2004 à 11:43 +0100, Andreas Barth a écrit :
I think most of us agree that non-UTF-8-characters are not a good idea
(please note the UTF-8-characters is a superset of ASCII). For some
places (like package names),
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 01:01:16PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Many of us have names that can't be written using ASCII.
Well, they usually can be transliterated, can't they?
Transliterating is somewhat of a kludge (and I think in most cases UTF-8 is a
much better solution); OTOH I'd rapidly
On Dec 05, Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would people support a mass bug at minor severity?
Make it normal.
--
ciao, |
Marco | [9589 inOGrPyJFNKhM]
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
On Dec 05, Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Transliterating is somewhat of a kludge (and I think in most cases UTF-8 is a
much better solution); OTOH I'd rapidly get confused in the list of Japanese
maintainers if their names weren't transliterated.
This is a different issue: in
[Steinar H. Gunderson]
Transliterating is somewhat of a kludge (and I think in most cases
UTF-8 is a much better solution); OTOH I'd rapidly get confused in
the list of Japanese maintainers if their names weren't
transliterated.
I think it's a valid choice for a maintainer who natively
[Marco d'Itri]
Would people support a mass bug at minor severity?
Make it normal.
Given that Policy recommends debian/changelog to be utf-8, coupled with
the observation (which I had not thought of) that various tools may
require a maintainer's name in debian/control and debian/changelog to
On 05/12/2004 James Foster wrote:
Pornography may be offensive to some. Is the package description for
hot-babe accurate? Are people who do not want it installed being
forced to install it?
People who may be offended by the package should read its description
and make up their own mind
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: gcursor
Version : 0.061
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://qballcow.nl/?s=14
* License : GPL
Description : gcursor is a gtk2 tool to configure Xcursors themes
(introduced in XFree86
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2004 à 14:23 +0100, Jonas Meurer a écrit :
There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
because you dislike censorship?
You're being late for invoking the Godwin law.
--
.''`. Josselin Mouette
On 05/12/2004 Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2004 à 14:23 +0100, Jonas Meurer a écrit :
There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
because you dislike censorship?
You're being late for invoking the Godwin
[Jonas Meurer]
can you give further information about this 'Godwin law'? you mean
that i repeated what Godwin already mentioned?
Different Godwin, I believe.
URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
* Jonas Meurer wrote:
can you give further information about this 'Godwin law'?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law
Sebastian
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On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 14:29 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2004 à 14:23 +0100, Jonas Meurer a écrit :
There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
because you dislike censorship?
You're being late
[Peter Samuelson]
I suggest that the affected source packages[3] be run through the
command 'iconv -f ORIGINAL_CHARSET -t utf-8' as soon as convenient.
No, as you noticed this list is short and can be processed in a more
elegant manner, e.g. sympa description uses a no-break space where a
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:34:36PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the
most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is
likely to hurt the feelings
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:23:52PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
On 05/12/2004 James Foster wrote:
Pornography may be offensive to some. Is the package description for
hot-babe accurate? Are people who do not want it installed being
forced to install it?
People who may be offended by the
On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
Okay everybody, repeat after me: Choosing not to distribute a given
package is NOT censorship. We are not telling people that they can't
install, use, and/or distribute the package, just
Op zo, 05-12-2004 te 14:23 +0100, schreef Jonas Meurer:
On 05/12/2004 James Foster wrote:
Pornography may be offensive to some. Is the package description for
hot-babe accurate? Are people who do not want it installed being
forced to install it?
People who may be offended by the
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
Okay everybody, repeat after me: Choosing not to distribute a given
package is NOT censorship.
And telling
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:53:56PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
What I think should be done is pictures of a man should be added to the
package *or*, as someone else suggested, add the picture of a flower
blooming
A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 05, Martin-Éric Racine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read. Nothing about /dev/pmu there, yet it failed to be created. It is a
bug.
There is a WHOLE SECTION about this situation:
This is not a case of module loading.
- some drivers have not
Hi
I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress been
made on this? If not I would like to volunteer for it. I definitely
think it would be a useful thing to have, considering the majority of
window
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] freedom of expression constitutes one of the essential
foundations of a democratic society and one of the basic conditions
for its progress and each individual's self-fulfilment.
[...] it is applicable not only to information or ideas
On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
because you dislike censorship?
Yes, for the very same reason that many public libraries across the
world contain the book 'Mein Kampf', by Adolf Hitler.
there's a big difference between
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2004 à 11:43 +0100, Andreas Barth a écrit :
I think most of us agree that non-UTF-8-characters are not a good idea
(please note the UTF-8-characters is a superset of ASCII). For some
places (like package names), I think most
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:40:52PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
On that note, how likely is it to hit a UTF-8 character encoding that
contains a '\n'? Any non UTF-8 aware parser would assume a new line
has started and get parse errors.
0% likely, guaranteed.
UTF-8 is *designed* to be
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/musahim
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
Cc: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Such @bugs.debian.org addresses do not exist.
PS: A bug is only closed when the bug reporter confirms it has been fixed.
As a point of information I must say that this is
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
phallic representation. I could hurt some people's sensibility.
Paul
I was thinking that we could use pictures of the Eiffel Tower or
Washington Monument in various
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: ganglia-webfrontend
Version : 2.5.7
Upstream Author : Matt Massie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.ganglia.info/
* License : BSD
Description : Web frontend for ganglia cluster monitoring toolkit
On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
Okay everybody, repeat after me:
Bart Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:40:52PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
On that note, how likely is it to hit a UTF-8 character encoding that
contains a '\n'? Any non UTF-8 aware parser would assume a new line
has started and get parse errors.
0%
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:40:52PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
On that note, how likely is it to hit a UTF-8 character encoding that
contains a '\n'? Any non UTF-8 aware parser would assume a new line
has started and get parse errors.
Thats no problem. The only problem you have with
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or, putting it another way: failing to include this piece of code does
Debian no demonstrable harm. Including it does.
After this several hundred posts thread, I still fail to see which
demonstrable harm such a silly and innocent package would do.
Peter Samuelson writes,
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
[1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing,
and UTF-8 seems to be the best solution for this sort of thing.
Op zo, 05-12-2004 te 17:15 +0100, schreef Jonas Meurer:
On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
because you dislike censorship?
Yes, for the very same reason that many public libraries across the
world contain the book
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004, Nick Sillik wrote:
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
phallic representation. I could hurt some people's sensibility.
This is pointless.
Let's just have hot-babe with as much
El dom, 05-12-2004 a las 20:16 +, Thaddeus H. Black escribi:
Peter Samuelson writes,
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII
characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy
[1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good
On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
you may run into big troubles if you tolerate a violent ideology - it's
no longer about thoughts but more about brutality.
Not if you're merely voicing those thoughts.
sure, voicing those thoughts without practicing them is not the problem.
but (to
A new version of libtiff, version 3.7.0 + CVS (more like an alpha of
3.7.1, expected soon) has been uploaded to experimental. i386 and
powerpc packages are available. (Many thanks to Giuseppe Sacco for
sponsoring this upload and building the packages.) This version is
expected to be binary
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 06:28:14PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
might want, and put it on non-us since it is illegal to distribute such
things in the USA (and unlike the possibility of offending people's
sensibilities, THIS is a real issue as things stand). While at it, we
They
Hi there,
I am soliciting a bit of assistance in how to best collect information
to report a bug most accurately. I have a general idea of what is needed
(reportbug does most of the legwork) but additional debug might be a
good thing.
Evolution 2.x has an annoying habit of getting
On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:32 pm, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Reason: I can
recognize and distinguish Latin-1 characters, even when I do not always
understand the words they spell. Recognizing and distinguishing the
Re: Anders Karlsson in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I best collect the information that the package maintainer would
like?
Hi,
if you file a regular bug, the maintainer will contact you to provide
the information he needs. He is the one who knows the package best.
Besides that, there's strace,
I find the notion of introducing censorship in order to not 'hurt
their feelings' to be morally repugnant.
Yes yes, I understand why you don't like it. What I wanted was an
explanation of why objecting to this package was probably _more_
offensive than proposing it.
(Bearing in mind that in
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:55:27 +, Matthew Garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Debian is not a democratic society. It is not intended to be a source of
all information known to man. It is supposed to be a project to produce
a Free operating system. That means:
a) Things that are not useful
* Martin Olsson
| I have not seen this image thus I do not if I would find it offensive
| or not. Could someone please upload a .png of it somewhere and post
| the URL?
They are posted on http://temp.aurel32.net/hot-babe/
| Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for standing up on
|
* Eduard Bloch
| From my point of view, we could have released Sarge one year after Woody
| with boot-floppies. The only thing needed was a bit more man power from
| the porters. Instead, most of the core team and the BFs porters
| stopped to work on it. And without manpower (motivated people),
* Henning Makholm
| Scripsit Charles Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| Is there any benefit to using glastree over dirvish or pdumpfs?
|
| The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is implemented
| in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason that I encountered
| it in the
* John Hasler
| William Ballard writes:
| The Bible should be in Debian. But the Koran, the Torah, and the Vishnu
| texts (name escapes me at the moment) should all be in there too.
|
| Debian is not Project Gutenberg. Debian is about _software_.
But the recent GR clarified that data is
* Fernanda Giroleti Weiden
| I am not saying I don't believe you, I am just surprised that you seem
| to feel objectified and pressured by a silly little cartoon.
|
| They are confusing somethings when compares sexual discrimination with
| any other kind of. Be a women is not a religion
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:03:13PM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 21:17, Sven Luther wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:03:59PM -0700, Al Stone wrote:
Hmmm. 'apt-get upgrade' this morning seems to have fixed it
all -- so it would seem that the autobuilders got caught
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:54:12PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
Hi
I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress been
made on this? If not I would like to volunteer for it. I definitely
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:32 pm, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Reason: I can
recognize and distinguish Latin-1 characters, even when I do not always
understand
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:35:52PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
On 05/12/2004 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
you may run into big troubles if you tolerate a violent ideology - it's
no longer about thoughts but more about brutality.
Not if you're merely voicing those thoughts.
sure, voicing
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: dak
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few others
* URL or Web page : http://cvs.debian.org/dak/?cvsroot=dak
* License : GPL
Description: Debian's archive maintenance scripts
This is a
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: hot-banknote
Version : 0.2.1
Upstream Authors: David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cyprien Laplace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
graphics: Eugène Delacroix and others.
* URL :
On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 13:42 +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:52:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
An earlier suggestion to show a lamb in various states of shear,
and then roasted at 100% was also good.
As a vegeterian I have to strongly object on this. ;-)
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: lapispuzzle.app
Version : 0.9.1
Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
* License : GNU GPL
Description : almost a clone of Street
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:38 +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
[snip]
Warning: the 100 French Francs banknote displays the 'Liberty Leading
the People' by Eugène Delacroix which picture the Liberty as a
bare-breasted woman.
.
Of course, if you can be shocked by money or nudity, don't use
Andrew,
I worked on the patent and copyright issues because Debian and indeed
all of Free Software would be up the river if people did not work on it.
I have arranged more than $120K of grants to work on this since leaving HP.
That is not the case for packages with questionable images and
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:54:36AM +1100, Paul Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Isn't there a proposal around for
Description#en: English text
Description#ja: Japanese text
And you'd advocate to write the English text in latin1 and the japanese
text in euc-jp ?
Let's make it clear: 1 text
Le lundi 06 décembre 2004 à 09:26 +0900, Mike Hommey a écrit :
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:54:36AM +1100, Paul Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Isn't there a proposal around for
Description#en: English text
Description#ja: Japanese text
And you'd advocate to write the English text in
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:16 -0500, Nick Sillik wrote:
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Plop wrote:
A flower may not be a good idea. For many specialists, a flower is a
phallic representation. I could hurt some people's sensibility.
Paul
I was thinking that we could use
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Then maybe we could research whether this material is questionable at
all. It's not as if hot-babe contained pr0n pictures.
Yes. Currently, every time the problem comes up we argue about our own
individual definitions of what is and is not questionable because we
have
[Thaddeus H. Black]
Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1.
Dissents are fine. (:
The reason to go with UTF-8 is for consistency. Tools that wish to
render text onto the screen ought to be able to depend on knowing the
encoding that text is in. See below for why I (and many
Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
I do not deny that Latin-1 represents all the languages I can read, and
that this fact may color my view. Nevertheless to me a source written
in Chinese is effectively non-free. It might as well be a compiled
binary blob.
So Emacs is effectively non-free, because I
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
You're looking at this from a US-centric viewpoint, Bruce, and extending this
to the whole Project.
Because I am one of the people with legal responsibility for the U.S.
incarnation of the project. I acknowledge that there are many other
jurisdictions where our people
Ron Johnson wrote:
Would country/region-specific jigdo files be a reasonable
solution?
I don't think we've enumerated all of the data paths that can generate
problems. I guess jigdo means the general category of CDs. To that I
would add the package list presented by the various apt frontends.
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:55:27PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] freedom of expression constitutes one of the essential
foundations of a democratic society and one of the basic conditions
for its progress and each individual's
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:21:04PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's no excuse
Steve Greenland wrote:
Okay everybody, repeat after me: Choosing not to distribute a given
package is NOT censorship. We are not telling people that they can't
install, use, and/or distribute the package, just that we don't care to
make it available as an official Debian package from our servers.
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:52:59AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
I find the notion of introducing censorship in order to not 'hurt
their feelings' to be morally repugnant.
Yes yes, I understand why you don't like it. What I wanted was an
explanation of why objecting to this package was
On Sunday 05 December 2004 08:25 pm, Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:21:04PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 05-Dec-04, 09:07 (CST), Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST),
Andrew Suffield wrote:
What is actually happening here is that one individual Debian developer is choosing to distribute a given package, and some other developers are trying to stop them.
No developer has attempted to stop another developer from distributing
that package. All that has been
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 04:23:25PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
I worked on the patent and copyright issues because Debian and indeed
all of Free Software would be up the river if people did not work on it.
I have arranged more than $120K of grants to work on this since leaving HP.
That is
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:38:36AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
Warning: the 100 French Francs banknote displays the 'Liberty Leading
the People' by Eugène Delacroix which picture the Liberty as a
bare-breasted woman.
This passes the soley designed to appeal to the prurient interest test
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:32:00PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
But the only field in UTF8 should be Maintainer, and that field should
have (IMHO) also a roman transliterate for the name, if you don't use a
latin charset (Greek, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese...)
The transliterated field
Oh no, there's the possibility that somebody else might look at some
low quality porn versus Other people are actively forcing their
beliefs onto us. Isn't it obvious?
...
That's what censorship means in every context, under any practical
definition. It's impossible to deny access
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:15:50PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
Somewhere else in the thread I made the point that people have to respect
each other and that everyone using Debian is subject to local laws.
That is two different issues:
1: Developers should respect each other.
Which
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