[Roger Leigh]
I've been using Debian with UTF-8 only locales for over 12 months
now. I now consider it fine for general use, with respect to
terminal and application support. Unlike a couple of years ago, most
things work perfectly.
Some apps like 'screen' do not just configure themselves
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 00.19, Roger Leigh wrote:
I think going to UTF-8 as the default locale charmap for all locales
is a feasable goal for etch, as is recoding everything to UTF-8 (where
it makes sense).
Yep.
My biggest problem right now is 'lpr sometextfile' to a postscript printer
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:35:41PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Tollef == Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tollef | Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for
Tollef standing up on | this issue. Debian should never promote |
Tollef degradation/abuse/exploitation,
Andreas Tille wrote:
I failed in ending this thread when I posted
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html
instead I caused two trolls making even more noise.
I hope all you people are aware that you are causing a new duelling banjo
case and helping out Google to
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:04:54AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:35:41PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Tollef == Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tollef | Finally, I would like to commend Michelle Konzack for
Tollef standing up on | this issue.
On 2004-12-07 Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said:
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote:
On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: findutils
[...]
* Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 00:40]:
I think going to UTF-8 as the default locale charmap for all locales
is a feasable goal for etch, as is recoding everything to UTF-8 (where
it makes sense).
feasable goal and etch are the magic words I think: I agree on that,
but I don't want
On Tuesday 07 Dec 2004 01:51, Stephen Gran wrote:
I have to say, this is ridiculous. Do I, living in the US or Europe,
have to take into account the laws about sensuality (note, not sexuality,
since these pictures barely qualify for that word) that mirror operators
in Iran or Saudi Arabia
Patrze w ekran, a to Roger Leigh pisze do mnie:
- No UTF-8 console keymaps
- Some broken libraries e.g. GTK+ 1.2 [obsolete]
- I can't paste UTF-8 into emacs (perhaps a problem in my .emacs)
- mc making mess with its frames
Maciek
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On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote:
So are you saying I should take my web pages of my naked dogs down?
Depends on who's prurient interests are appealed to by your naked
dogs.
Fortunately, though,
--- Everton da Silva Marques
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:12:21PM +0100, Michelle
Konzack wrote:
Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti
Weiden:
First of all, it's a sexist package, sure.
Putting a program on Debian
in which you have
Warning: the 100 French Francs banknote displays the 'Liberty Leading
the People' by Eugène Delacroix which picture the Liberty as a
bare-breasted woman.
That's from the fine arts world, so completely different rules apply..
--
Ulf Harnhammar
http://www.advogato.org/person/metaur/
On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 07:28:39AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
Can you indeed give us here the list of mozilla-firefox-locale-xx
packages your package currently generates?
For the moment:
(..)
There is no es_ES. I believe there were mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es
packages at some
Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrieb Fabricio Cannini:
Me wonders if simply NOT installing hot-babe
wouldn't fix this.
IMO Seems to be the easiest solution.
In theory ! In many countries it is illegal
to have some stuff on CD or other Media.
Don't put it on the CD!!
And WHO stores the
07.12.2004 13:33 +0100 Maciej Dems (-):
Patrze w ekran, a to Roger Leigh pisze do mnie:
- No UTF-8 console keymaps
- Some broken libraries e.g. GTK+ 1.2 [obsolete]
- I can't paste UTF-8 into emacs (perhaps a problem in my .emacs)
- mc making mess with its frames
Add dselect and
--- Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:
Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrieb Fabricio Cannini:
Me wonders if simply NOT installing hot-babe
wouldn't fix this.
IMO Seems to be the easiest solution.
In theory ! In many countries it is illegal
to have some stuff on CD or other
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered
to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper-
horny 13 year old boy is seeing a picture of dogs
Am 2004-12-07 11:17:46, schrieb Fabricio Cannini:
I've already seen long, enduring, die-hard threads,
but not like this one.
I was soe day offline, and do not know,
how many messages this thread have
but I think more then 600.
And in how many days...
Best to you.
Greetings
Michelle
--
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:47:16PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:34:45PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello,
I have written the menu method, but I did not test it.
Please find it here: http://people.debian.org/~ballombe/xsessions
You will need to
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 01:09, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered
to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper-
horny 13 year old boy is seeing a picture of dogs copulating, and
not in the context
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 12:44 am, Peter Samuelson wrote:
Defining the character set as utf-8 means that any non-unicode
capable application is going to have issues, yes.
Postulate an app that is ignorant of character sets - we'll call it
aptitude. Fixing it to make it accept utf-8 and
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 10:17 am, Daniel Burrows wrote:
complex replacement string class
Admittedly, complex might (hypothetically) be a bit of an exaggeration.
:P
Daniel
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/--- Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] --\
| You are in a maze of
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:17:17AM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 12:44 am, Peter Samuelson wrote:
And if the app already deals with charset conversions but assumes
iso-8859-1 input, then it's trivial to fix it to assume utf-8 input.
This is not true.
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
iso-8859-1 is an 8-bit charset, while Unicode is a 32-bit [0] charset. =20
Storing and manipulating iso-8859-1 strings requires no changes to internal=
=20
datatypes (only conversions for input and output); storing and manipulating=
=20
Unicode means
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 10:40 am, Richard Atterer wrote:
No, you do not have to do this. You can keep working with char, the
changes when switching to UTF-8 will mostly have to deal with the fact that
one Unicode character is represented by more than one char. This means that
you need to
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Steve Langasek writes,
... most of the letters you listed here are specific
to the IPA, which would have no use at all in a
control file as they're not part of the writing system
of any natural language.
Ok.
Encodings and charsets are distinct concepts. Just
because the file is specified
On Dec 07, Thaddeus H. Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
UTF-8 is neat, but I do not really like Unicode (you may
Actually you do not even understand it, because this sentence is
meaningless.
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Marco | [9639 coubl1Ib61SmA]
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:25:31PM +0100, Andrea Bedini wrote:
Il giorno lun, 06-12-2004 alle 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto:
Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses to have
that body distribute something (by being a citizen and distributing
it), and another
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:51:59AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Editing would be if the maintainer decided to remove the
package. Censorship is when some other developer tries to force him.
If an ftp-master in the course of doing the work of processing NEW rejects
a package, or a member of
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said:
On 2004-12-07 Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said:
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote:
On 2004-11-24 Martin
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:10:19AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
I think it would be better to create a distribution of Debian, where
applicable, that meets the legal requirements of the given country.
That way if you do really want to distribute Debian where there are
laws against XYZ, you can
Andrew Suffield wrote:
Also, in much of the civilised world, once you start doing this you
suddenly acquire a legal responsibility to do it *right*, which you
wouldn't have had if you hadn't tried to do it.
It's more complicated than that. I think what you are talking about is
the fact that a
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:32:14 +, Will Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Monday 06 Dec 2004 10:01, Andrew Suffield wrote:
The difference being that editing is a choice made by the person
doing the work, while censorship is a choice made by an otherwise
unrelated person in the same
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:41:42 -0800, Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I don't think we have the slightest chance of proving to any court
that Debian is a common carrier, given the several inches of policy
manual that specify the nature of the content, etc.
Say what? Where is this
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 20:31 +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote:
So are you saying I should take my web pages of my naked dogs down?
Depends on who's prurient interests are
On Tuesday 07 Dec 2004 20:26, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I don't think this holds. Censoring is editing for ideological
reasons, which is a subset of editing. It has nothing to do with who
does it. A censor is a third party, and editor is a third party, at
least in literary terms.
Is
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So you have no objections to bestiality web sites then?
The assumption here is that one must either have no objections, or
else have objections and then proceed to object and want things
removed. Perhaps I have misunderstood you, but there are many who
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package, would it be
easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would really be nice.
A common carrier carries content from one external point to another as
directed by the parties exchanging the content without
Daniel Burrows dburrows at debian.org writes:
When your package Depends upon or Recommends a pure-virtual package P, you
should always OR the dependency with a dependency on something that provides
P,
As a totally offtopic suggestion, how come APT doesn't handle virtual packages
the way
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 03:35:45PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:47:16PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
This is a good start, now the question is how to integrate this into
the system.
To tell you the truth I have also been working on a similar thing
[Thaddeus H. Black]
UTF-8 is neat, but I do not really like Unicode (you may
[Marco d'Itri]
Actually you do not even understand it, because this sentence is
meaningless.
Perhaps he is aware of the difference between Unicode and ISO-10646?
UTF-8 is an encoding of ISO-10646.
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package, would it be
easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would really be nice.
A common carrier carries content from one external point to another as
directed
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 09:45:33PM +, Ari Pollak wrote:
Daniel Burrows dburrows at debian.org writes:
When your package Depends upon or Recommends a pure-virtual package P,
you
should always OR the dependency with a dependency on something that
provides
P,
As a totally
Hello,
I have discussed on IRC with Chis Cheney (menu-xdg/KDE maintainer)
and we have a different plan:
kdebase include .desktop files for wm that are translated and we will
not have time to move the translations to the menu system before
sarge release, so it seems better to keep these .desktop
Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
However, the typical roster of skills one masters in contributing
broadly to Debian development is already awesome: C, C++, CPP, Make,
Perl, Python, Autoconf, CVS, Shell, Glibc, System calls, /proc, IPC,
sockets, Sed, Awk, Vi, Emacs, locales, Libdb, GnuPG, Readline,
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
But that would not include any debian mirror, they would be common carrier?
A mirror operator in general does make choices about the
content carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would already
have been litigated is a Cable TV system. The U.S. FCC
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 16:48 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
But that would not include any debian mirror, they would be common carrier?
A mirror operator in general does make choices about the content
carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would already
Il giorno mar, 07-12-2004 alle 18:37 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto:
This is not the case: one member of a community chooses to do something
on which community doesn't agree. So community decides to not follow his
member and *let him do what he wants by his own*. Debian should not do
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
I failed in ending this thread when I posted
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html
instead I caused two trolls making even more noise.
Without having read your post, I'm pretty confident that
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 02:36:35PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:41:42 -0800, Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I don't think we have the slightest chance of proving to any court
that Debian is a common carrier, given the several inches of policy
manual that
SVG use is increasing and I have seen nothing in Debian about how they
should be handled. So,
What is the proper way to handle svg icons?
For example, where should they be placed?
How well are they supported?
Should a non-svg icon also be included?
--
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:29:29 +0900
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:12:55 +0100
Source: openalpp-cvs
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Version: 20041206-1
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Urgency: low
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:03:33 -0700
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:13:54 +0100
Source: enigma
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Maintainer: Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:54:51 +0100
Source: obexftp
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian QA Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* debian/diff/arm-waitpid.diff, debian/diff/mips-pic.diff: remove; fixed
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Distribution: unstable
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 20:08:29 +0100
Source: pvm
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Version: 3.4.2-14
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:54:45 +0100
Source: bugzilla
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Version: 2.16.7-0.2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Rémi Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Source: linkchecker
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Bastian Kleineidam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:47:00 +0100
Source: nwall
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Distribution: unstable
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Maintainer: Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 20:43:07 +0100
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 19:21:00 +0100
Source: osgal-cvs
Binary: libosgal-cvs-dev osgal-cvs-doc libosgal-cvs
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 20041121-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Loic Dachary (OuoU) [EMAIL
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 19:07:39 -0500
Source: spread
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Architecture: source i386
Version: 3.17.2-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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