On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 11:06:11AM +0100, Pierre Machard wrote:
Salut,
Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 10:58 +0100, Sven Luther a écrit :
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:51:26AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
Après le salon [EMAIL PROTECTED] où nou sétions avec Raphaël, j'ai
Steve M. Robbins writes:
Howdy,
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 02:18:29AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
We will get rid of g++-3.3 for the etch release and remove the
g++-3.3 package.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:54:22AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
We would like to get rid of g++-3.4 for
Thanks ...We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE servers...
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 08:52 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
So I followed the instructions at the top of that file and requested a
P-a-s entry, after asking people here what to do. No response. Hm. I
wasn't sure what to make of that -- maybe this request is too trivial to
bother with, it's fine
hi,
why i'm still seeing lots of archived bugs in my packages? hmm..
also the http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ form does not work correctly.
please, what am i doing wrong?
i'm accessing the logs with the following url:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=curl
thank you
domenico
2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE servers...
That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple
servers all the time. To fetch packages lists, or if a package is only
available on one of the
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
why i'm still seeing lots of archived bugs in my packages? hmm..
also the http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ form does not work correctly.
I guess it is because bug #339141 is just open. It seems that nobody
really cares since 27 days.
Kind regards
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:52:22AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
It got proposed because no one was able to give correct explanations
about why it hadn't been included.
Heh. I'm almost morbidly curious enough to ask what you think the
correct
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:24:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
That sort of information is helpful to tell you when there is a problem,
but that's only the first step. ATM, the corresponding thing would
be to (gosh!) setup a webpage tracking
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
C'mon, this is a free software project. The obvious first step for
providing better infrastructure would be to make that infrastructure
publically available for
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:40:11PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
Requeue requests are part of handling logs... You get a failed log, you
analyse it to say oh, that's a transient error due to other
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
[snip]
A similar issue I noted in the past is the big number of build failures
that don't get tagged 'Failed'. I tried working on classifying them, but
got bored so increadibly fast that I gave up, and decided for myself
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 06:50:26PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
And when you try you get screamed at and flamed as witnessed in the
huge buildd flame fest the last time. Iirc some 3000 packages were
build outside the official buildd network
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
That's still a bit of time wasted, but it's not really bad. The really
problematic version is when a package is downloaded, build-deps are
installed, and /then/ sbuild figures out that some version isn't recent
enough.
According to the intersection of the debcheck
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
That's still a bit of time wasted, but it's not really bad. The really
problematic version is when a package is downloaded, build-deps are
installed, and /then/ sbuild figures out that some version isn't recent
enough.
According to the intersection of the debcheck
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:22:37PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Heiko M?ller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We found that gcc-2.95 -Os produces object code of acceptable quality
within reasonable compilation times. gcc =3 is less efficient w.r.t.
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:45:50AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 11, Charles Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But if multiple URLs could satisfactorily serve requests for a single
repository, only one of them is currently used.
Which is fine,
Can have option in /etc/apt/apt.conf or apt-get (install || upgrade) with -? some char here for parallelism.And by default can be disabled ...
Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We don't want them to open multiple connections even to
MULTIPLE servers...
That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple servers all
the time.
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE
servers...
That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple servers
all the time. To fetch
(Dropping Josh and moving to -devel, as this is discussion is going
elsewhere)
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 01:59:05PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
However, some users just want a computer that works (the plain
users). They don't want to have to learn too much about Linux or
Debian, they just want
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 08:52:04AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:53:47AM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote:
Again: what can I do with such a list? See the list below.
Changes to the P-a-s list should be sent to the contacts listed
On Dec 12, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not open 3 connections one to each host?
Why do?
Or at least fall back to the other IPs if the first one gives an
error?
I hope that this already happens...
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On Dec 12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
use more than a single server by itself... I didn't think it common practice
for large mirror to configure multi-megabyte windows...
TCP/IP windows? Or user bw shaping?
He means the TCP window size, and it *is* common practice
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
use more than a single server by itself... I didn't think it common
practice
for large mirror to configure multi-megabyte windows...
TCP/IP windows? Or user bw shaping?
He means
Scripsit Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1. We care about a large lot of people a lot more than we care for an
individual's downloading speed
2. Thus we try to keep the mirror load down, and downloading hundreds of
megabytes using multiple connections to multiple sources
Hi,
I intend to request the removal of the gtksee package from
the archive. So let me explain why.
I adopted the package in July 2004 and had a pretty active
assosiation with the upstream author.
During the time upstream authors absence became more and
more frequent and after some time he
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:52:09PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
True, but that's not what's being asked here. If multiple URLs could
serve requests for a single repository---i.e., if you've got both
deb http://ftp1.CC.debian.org/debian
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: netgen
Version : 4.4
Upstream Author : Joachim Schoeberl
* URL : http://www.hpfem.jku.at/netgen/ngs44.tar.gz
* License : LGPL
Description : automatic 3d tetrahedral
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Henning Makholm wrote:
As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_
files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5
different servers, with one connection to each
also sprach Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.12.12.1405 +0100]:
I don't understand why for Etch, if a user chooses Desktop during
tasksel, they shouldn't get the just works[tm] experience.
Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than
doing it a different way!
Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than
doing it a different way!
But doesn't Ubuntu use Debian installer?
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As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5different servers, with one connection to each server active at atime.That is what I mean ...
On 12/12/05, Ivan Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_
files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5
different servers, with one connection
My goal is using more bandwidth with apt-proxy servers on my friends, who have other internet connection.And I want to download first packet from my internet and second packet at the same time from the apt-proxy with my friend internet connection.
Now, I can only download all packets from my
Ivan Adams wrote:
My goal is using more bandwidth with apt-proxy servers on my friends, who
have other internet connection.
And I want to download first packet from my internet and second packet at
the same time from the apt-proxy with my friend internet connection.
Now, I can only download
Hi Ivan!
You wrote:
As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_
files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5
different servers, with one connection to each server
Hi,
Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
But what would you gain from that? In my experience, the mirrors are
fast enough to saturate anything but the fastest (100Mb) links.
I think the idea is
a) load-balancing over multiple DSL lines
b) checking a bunch of apt-proxy servers whether they can provide
Quoting Linas Zvirblis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than
doing it a different way!
But doesn't Ubuntu use Debian installer?
Yes, but they don't use tasksel...which is the one installing a
desktop task.
From the D-I team point of view:
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, lets take an example: Where is the source thrown at you for
www.debian.org?
It isn't. You have to ask around, get to know or dig deep along the
links to find cvs.debian.org.
Funny, I just did a Google search for
site:www.debian.org cvs
Replying to Christian Perrier.
I see what you mean. But who is going to create The Debian Style? Maybe
a contest is needed?
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 10:46:10AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Even if the current software isn't publically available for whatever
reason (personally, I'm putting my money on hacked into place over time
and not particularly easy to massage into a form someone else could run,
That's one part
Hi,
Christian Perrier wrote:
From the D-I team point of view: there are certainly tons of things to
improve in our default installs, especially when we exit the real
domain of D-I and enter the domain of general setup of a default
system.
The point is that this is not the a task for d-i. If
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Right, well, as noted, it's generally a fairly low priority to get
packages added to P-a-s -- even though it's an eventual goal, the waste
just really isn't so much (in the usual case) to warrant a rush job. So
from that standpoint, as long as there
Christian Perrier wrote:
(hey, this is why desktop installs the whole bloat of KDE *AND* Gnome ).
It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might
have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a
kind of experiment just to see how long it takes for
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
-default sound setup
Sound is symptomatic of a much larger class of problems, namely that
there is no system service that forwards resources other than display
and keyboard to the user currently
Dear fellow developers and contributors,
This is a reminder that the bug squashing period I announced on
24 Nov 2005 is ending this coming Wednesday, 11:59 CET.
For more information, please see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg00019.html
Kind regards,
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Please do
On 15:03 Sun 11 Dec 2005, George Wright wrote:
* on Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 12:21:28PM +1000, Bradley Marshall wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right process to follow, so please
let me know if there's something else I should be doing.
ditto for me - shall I fill in an ITA? I'm not a DD
Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
-default sound setup
Sound is symptomatic of a much larger class of problems, namely that
there is no system service that forwards resources other than display
and
On 21:01 Mon 12 Dec 2005, Linas Zvirblis wrote:
Replying to Christian Perrier.
I see what you mean. But who is going to create The Debian Style? Maybe
a contest is needed?
What are you talking about Debian Style?
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Marco d'Itri wrote:
Or at least fall back to the other IPs if the first one gives an
error?
I hope that this already happens...
apt doesn't know anything about round robin dns, and especially with
secure apt, if one mirror gets out of sync things break horribly. This
recently happened with
On 20:25 Mon 12 Dec 2005, Simon Richter wrote:
This is also related to the clash of the two approaches (multiuser
system with capable admin versus single-user personal system where all
users need admin priviledge to associate to new APs as they roam with
their laptop). What we need is a
On Monday 12 December 2005 21:25, Joey Hess wrote:
It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might
have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a
kind of experiment just to see how long it takes for someone to notice
and what traspires if they do.
David Moreno Garza wrote:
What are you talking about Debian Style?
Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
All those little things that would make a user say Yep, that's Debian.
A user should get the same visual feeling whether he chose GNOME or KDE
for
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:37:31PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote:
David Moreno Garza wrote:
What are you talking about Debian Style?
Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
All those little things that would make a user say Yep, that's Debian.
Check out the
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
This is an omnibus reply. Sorry about the thread-breaking, but I'm on
yet *another* computer, and I can't seem to find a mailer which
respects the In-Reply-To headers from the web pages or lets me add my
own.
Off-topic, but Moz Thunderbird in Debian at least does the
Em Seg, 2005-12-12 às 23:37 +0200, Linas Zvirblis escreveu:
David Moreno Garza wrote:
What are you talking about Debian Style?
Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
All those little things that would make a user say Yep, that's Debian.
The desktop-base
David Nusinow wrote:
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:37:31PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote:
David Moreno Garza wrote:
What are you talking about Debian Style?
Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
All those little things that would make a user say Yep, that's
#include hallo.h
* Joey Hess [Mon, Dec 12 2005, 03:53:02PM]:
This kind of disconnect between what an installed Debian system actually
does, what some developers think it does, and results like Debian
developers passing out Ubuntu CDs instead of contributing more fixes to
Debian is intensely
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
syntax allows list items to be treated specially by frontends (for
instance, bullet characters can be replaced with graphics, and the
body of the list item can
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
wow! that's quite a document. i'm glad to see that people are
focusing on the Really Big
[Daniel Burrows]
(1) The first line begins with N 2 spaces,
Don't you mean N = 2?
(2) The first non-space character of the first line is a bullet
character, and
(3) Each subsequent line begins with at least N + 1 + M spaces,
where M is the number of spaces immediately
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Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists.
That's quite a complex document for something I believe should be
quite simple.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 06:38:59PM -0500, sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
syntax allows list items to be treated specially by frontends (for
instance, bullet
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 05:49:02PM -0600, Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
[Daniel Burrows]
(1) The first line begins with N 2 spaces,
Don't you mean N = 2?
(2) The first non-space character of the first line is a bullet
character, and
(3) Each
Hello,Since, I am not 'valid' poster of this list, my mail me
be blocked by listadmin! I asked DWN to report for foss.in/2005
conference in India and Debian activity during event. Joey can answer
about this post. Thanks Joey to encourage me.
Background:
foss.in/2005 was earlier known as Linux
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 12:01:52AM +, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
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The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:21:41AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
Extensions to the syntax of Description blocks:
As mentioned above, all lines beginning with two or more spaces are
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 12:01:52AM +, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
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Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
[Daniel Burrows]
(1) The first line begins with N = 2 spaces,
(3) Each subsequent line begins with at least N + 2 spaces.
Hm. That brings up the minor point of whether N should ever be
anything but (2 * nest_level).
I don't feel strongly about that one, though.
Also, in the Best
[Peter Samuelson]
Hm. That brings up the minor point of whether N should ever be
anything but (2 * nest_level).
Or if you consider nest_level to be zero-based, (2 + 2 * nest_level).
It occurs to me, though, that some might prefer the raw presentation
look of (2 + 3 * nest_level). I might
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Joey Hess wrote:
Marco d'Itri wrote:
Or at least fall back to the other IPs if the first one gives an
error?
I hope that this already happens...
apt doesn't know anything about round robin dns, and especially with
secure apt, if one mirror gets out of sync things
(crossposted to -devel and -i18n to trigger attention by people who
maybe loosely follow debian-boot)
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This IRC meeting will be held on the #debian-boot channel on freenode
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Hi all,
I'm new to the group and am seeking your advice on my Debian Linux C++
programming problem with named pipes.
Two programs are involved. One is myProgram.cc, which reads user's
input from keyboard and prints to the screen. The other program
is main.cc, which wants to communicate with
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Christian Perrier wrote:
(hey, this is why desktop installs the whole bloat of KDE *AND* Gnome ).
It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might
have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a
kind of
Hi,
thanks for all the comments. I will do tests with gcc-4.x and, if the
regression is still there, file a bug report upstream.
Heiko
On Saturday 10 December 2005 20:03, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
Heiko Müller wrote:
Dear Thiemo,
we very much appreciate your work on the gcc-2.95 debian package.
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