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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost verbalised: * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Explanation? What we have here is an act of bad faith, in the guise of demonstrating a weakness. In my experience, one act of bad faith often leads to others. pffft. This is taking it to an extreme. He

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Selon Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Debian policy says: | 8.2 Run-time support programs | | If your package has some run-time support programs which use the | shared library you must not put them in the shared library | package. If you do

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-26 Thread Kari Pahula
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:58:08PM -0500, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 06:14:51PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 04:18:44PM -0500, Anthony Towns wrote: Anyway, the background is that James Troup, Jeroen van Wolffelaar and myself examined the license

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 06:27:53PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 17:54]: So I guess you can still criticize folks for this if you want to, but I know that my own ongoing notion of best practices comes from stuff I learned long ago plus new ideas

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 May 2006, Gunnar Wolf said: Manoj Srivastava dijo [Thu, May 25, 2006 at 02:36:37AM -0500]: Hi, It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key signing party recently. This was apparently to belabour the obvious

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Stephen Frost
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost spake thusly: I wasn't making any claim as to the general validity of IDs which are purchased and I'm rather annoyed that you attempted to extrapolate it out to such. What I said is that he wasn't trying to fake

Debian GNU/MINIX

2006-05-26 Thread El Presidente
I have seen on the internet that someone wanted to port debian to minix3, but the report was old. Is there anyone that wants to port? I find it usefull. I don't have the ability to do it, but if it works I will switch to it [ the next versionof minix will handle driver crashes(no more nasty fs

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 25, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Debian, up until the removal of on-boot depmod, you did NOT have to run depmod. This is a fact, plain and simple. The fact that this does not hold Only if you rebooted after manually installing modules, which I think everybody

Bug#356517: marked as done (FTBFS with G++ 4.1: extra qualification)

2006-05-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 17 May 2006 09:32:04 -0700 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Accepted kchmviewer 2.0-1 (source i386) has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! /me playing the devil's advocate instead of Enrico... On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:32:43 +0200, David Moreno Garza wrote: As an additional bit of security, I asked some people to show their visa, issued by the Mexican government, or check the Mexican seal they got on their point of entrance

sending debian-private postings to slashdot

2006-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 24 mai 2006 à 19:18 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : However, it has come to my attention that at least one developer appears to be reading debian-private at their gmail account. And at least hundreds of people appear to be reading debian-private on slashdot news. -- .''`.

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 25 mai 2006 à 02:36 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key signing party recently. FWIW, I'm pretty sure Martin presented me an official German ID card. But

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Joey Hess
My memory is horrible, but IIRC James Troup (ie, our keymaster..) did some similar study at the DebConf5 KSP and ended up with a list of people whose GPG signtures he didn't trust anymore because of whatever trick they fell for. This thread seems entirely blown out of porportion. -- see shy jo

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

2006-05-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 24 mai 2006 à 16:01 -0700, Erast Benson a écrit : Thanks for all replies. In a private email you sent me, you said you were going to stop posting on Debian mailing lists. This was just another lie. Furthermore this email was full of allegations and insults while you perfectly knew

Re: sending debian-private postings to gmail

2006-05-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Jackson wrote: Kevin B. McCarty writes (Re: sending debian-private postings to gmail): Ian Jackson wrote: [snip] distributed to computers whose owners and operators cannot be expected to refrain from processing the content in other ways.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Enrico Zini wrote: However, from the book you don't get the address of madduck's home, which is what you want when you have to go and drag him to jail if he willingly uploads some malicious code. None of my ID documents tell you my address either. Is there any reason why they should? This

Re: Section of -dev packages

2006-05-26 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% grep-dctrl -F Priority required /var/lib/apt/lists/storage_debian-amd64_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages -s Section | sort | uniq -c 1 Section: admin 36 Section: base 1 Section: devel 12 Section: libs 1

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Theodore Tso
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 04:08:31PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: He didn't try to dupe people and this claim is getting rather old. Duping people would have actually been putting false information on the ID and generating a fake key and trying to get someone to sign off on the fake key based on

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 May 2006, Andreas Tille spake thusly: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key Is there any reason to revoke my signature I have put on Martin's key after he

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Enrico Zini wrote: This prompts me that we should probably be taking trusted notes of birth dates and birth places, because it's hard to physically trace one person down just given his or her name. At this point, it would be best to have all DDs actually enter into legally

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 02:12:25PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost spake thusly: pffft. This is taking it to an extreme. He wasn't trying to fake who he was, it just wasn't an ID issued by a generally recognized government (or perhaps not a government at all,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Agustin Martin
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 02:12:25PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: He has already bragged about how he cracked the KSP by presenting an unofficial ID which he bought -- an action designed to show the weakness of signing parties. So, this was a bad faith act, since the action was not

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Margarita Manterola [Wed, May 24 2006, 11:56:05PM]: What about using depmod -a instead, how much would it cost? AFAICS it only needs to walk trough the directories and stat the files without reading them. This is what's being done currently, as far as I know, and it takes

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Goswin, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le mardi 23 mai 2006 à 20:52 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : So, does anybody mind if I remove depmod from the module-init-tools init script? Please go ahead. Anything relying on it is

Bug#368931: ITP: libjung-java -- Java Universal Network/Graph Framework

2006-05-26 Thread Charles Fry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libjung-java Version : 1.7.4 Upstream Author : Joshua O'Madadhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Java Description

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060526 10:17]: My memory is horrible, but IIRC James Troup (ie, our keymaster..) did some similar study at the DebConf5 KSP and ended up with a list of people whose GPG signtures he didn't trust anymore because of whatever trick they fell for. I know that

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:26, Mike Hommey wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 04:16:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The KSP was cracked, People signed a key without ever looking at proper, official ID. You can try and save face by calling it whatever you want,

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key signing party recently. This was apparently to belabour the obvious point that large KSP's are events where it is hard

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Joey Hess
James Troup wrote: My key was part of the DC4 KSP materials, but I didn't manage to attend in the end. A couple of people signed my key despite my lack of attendance and one of them an NM applicant, IIRC. Again from memory, Martin talked to the NM in question who was very apologetic,

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Travis Crump
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key signing party recently. This was apparently to belabour the obvious point that large KSP's are events where it is hard to

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/25/06, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le mardi 23 mai 2006 à 20:52 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : So, does anybody mind if I remove depmod from the module-init-tools init script? Please go ahead. Anything relying on it is buggy

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost verbalised: * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Explanation? What we have here is an act of bad faith, in the guise of demonstrating a weakness. In my experience, one act of bad faith often leads to others. pffft. This

Re: Multiarch preparations needed for etch dpkg

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:07:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Say you have a binary package (Multi-Arch: no) firfox and a library/plugin package firefox-mplayer-plugin. This could be handled by firefox having a Provides:

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would say, off hand, that section 8.2 is for people who want to provide a shared library for other packages, with a stable ABI, and a development package to facilitate linking to their library. There are certain hoops we must jump in

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, passports are not really an answer (I have no idea what the passport of cameroon looke like, for example). Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at least two photo ID's issued by the government).

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Zini wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:42:07AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: [snip] People write books in the name of someone else fairly often, actually. No, I'm not only thinking about the Bible :) There's professional book writers who

Work-needing packages report for May 26, 2006

2006-05-26 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 285 (new: 3) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 77 (new: 0) Total number of packages

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Martin Schulze
Marco d'Itri wrote: So, does anybody mind if I remove depmod from the module-init-tools init script? I guess it would be a time-saver to remove the depmod call. However, since one cannot run depmod properly without the respective kernel being installed, removing the depmod call will caus harm.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread David Moreno Garza
Gunnar Wolf wrote: Maybe we should just drop holding KSPs, and fall back to the traditional method of Hey, nice dinner we had yesterday. Say, now that you know me, my family and my history, would you like to sign my key as well? - Signing for people you actually know, not just linking faces

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Manoj Srivastava: I will not be signing his keys, ever, based on this action of what I consider to be bad faith. Based on discussion with other people who seem to find this action amusing, but not unacceptable, I find that my decision to vaive my personal requirements of two

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 25, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about having module-init-tools run depmod when needed and have all other packages rely on that? That way it would run at most once. And how would module-init-tools be supposd to know when it would be needed to run depmod? -- ciao,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: and not showing any passports or showing passports: [...] - which did not had the *same* spelling as the name in the key (letter by letter) will not get a signature from me. While you're obviously free to set your own standards as to whose keys

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Frank Küster
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost verbalised: * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Explanation? What we have here is an act of bad faith, in the guise of demonstrating a weakness. In my experience, one act of bad faith often leads to others.

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Marco d'Itri [Thu, May 25 2006, 09:36:11AM]: On May 24, Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about using depmod -a instead, how much would it cost? AFAICS it We already do. Eh, typo, should have been depmod -A. I think this is a sufficiently time-optimized version

Re: Bug#368931: ITP: libjung-java -- Java Universal Network/Graph Framework

2006-05-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, May 25, 2006 at 07:29:43PM -0400, Charles Fry a écrit : Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libjung-java Version : 1.7.4 Upstream Author : Joshua O'Madadhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 04:30:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Andreas Tille spake thusly: Is there any reason to revoke my signature I have put on Martin's key after he showed me his passport? In my opinion, yes, if you consider subverting the KSP like that

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Andreas Tille spake thusly: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key Is there any reason to revoke my signature I have

Request for key signing in Shanghai

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID and sign my key? If there is none, is there somebody in Singapore, where I might be able to go? I wouldn't be able to go in Hongkong (because of visa problems) where I could see

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:11:55PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: Who actually has two forms of government issued picture ID[not counting a passport which I never take anywhere unless I really need to since it is really bad to lose it and doesn't fit in a wallet, not to mention my passport photo

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost spake thusly: * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 25 May 2006, Stephen Frost spake thusly: I wasn't making any claim as to the general validity of IDs which are purchased and I'm rather

Bug#368966: ITP: pympd -- Frontend for mpd in the style of rhythmbox and itunes

2006-05-26 Thread Franz Pletz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Franz Pletz [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: pympd Version : 0.06.1 Upstream Author : pympd Dev Team * URL : http://http://pympd.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Frontend

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Travis Crump [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who actually has two forms of government issued picture ID[not counting a passport which I never take anywhere unless I really need to since it is really bad to lose it and doesn't fit in a wallet, not to mention my passport photo isn't a very good

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 5/25/06, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le mardi 23 mai 2006 à 20:52 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : So, does anybody mind if I remove depmod from the module-init-tools init script?

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 26, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Im asking to have _one_ delay at a defined point instead of X packages having a delay because they might have to run depmod manualy. This is not a choice, every package which installs modules must run depmod or they will not be

Re: Daily built images for i386 include graphical installation option

2006-05-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:10:09AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: At Debconf Joey Hess and I have integrated support for the graphical installer into the main build system for d-i. For now the support is for i386 only, but amd64 [1] and powerpc will follow very soon. I've integrated the existing

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:06:31AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 26 May 2006, Thiemo Seufer outgrape: Keysigning isn't for judging behaviour but for confirming identity. * Michael Meskes: This may be a silly question but doesn't my signature only state that I certify this key

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:00:23PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: FWIW, I noted down those keys I would *not* sign and didn't tell the people at the KSP that I would not sign them. I guess his experiment only one in ten said that they would *not* sign it is moot unless he backs it

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:49:20AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The maintainer, at some point during a private conversation, even discouraged me to upload to *experimental* a new version of sysklogd fixing the issues I have prepared. That's why they ended up in my p.d.o page (they are

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow: Doesn't work if the key is ever compromised and a new one has to be created out of schedule. Or when you spend your x-mas holidays away from your system and couldn't upgrade before new years eve.

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 26 May 2006, Florian Weimer outgrape: * Manoj Srivastava: I will not be signing his keys, ever, based on this action of what I consider to be bad faith. Based on discussion with other people who seem to find this action amusing, but not unacceptable, I find that my decision to vaive my

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow uttered the following: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would say, off hand, that section 8.2 is for people who want to provide a shared library for other packages, with a stable ABI, and a development package to facilitate linking to their

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Penny Leach
On 5/26/06, Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While you're obviously free to set your own standards as to whose keysyou sign and not, I have come to the conclusion that the exact samespelling requirement doesn't make that much sense.As an example, take Bdale whose real name isn't Bdale, but

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell told this: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key signing party recently. This was apparently to belabour the obvious point that large

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

2006-05-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 11:20:26PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 24 mai 2006 à 16:01 -0700, Erast Benson a écrit : Thanks for all replies. In a private email you sent me, you said you were going to stop posting on Debian mailing lists. This was just another lie. Hmm, Debian

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Joey Hess
Martin Schulze wrote: However, since one cannot run depmod properly without the respective kernel being installed, removing the depmod call will caus harm. Kernels already run depmod when installed, and module packages would just need to be changed to call depmod with the right parameters to

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I think the core issue here is if we deem presenting purchased identification at an event designed to extend the web of trust acceptable behaviour. I check photographs, name, age, and expiry dates on ID presented. I did not include document verification in that checklist,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:45:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:26, Mike Hommey wrote: I'm pretty sure we can find official IDs that look so lame that you'd think it's a fake (the old french ones could be good example, and i know people who still use that as an

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 09:52:48AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: and not showing any passports or showing passports: [...] - which did not had the *same* spelling as the name in the key (letter by letter) will not get a signature from me.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:57:09AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 04:30:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Andreas Tille spake thusly: Is there any reason to revoke my signature I have put on Martin's key after he showed me his passport?

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at least two photo ID's issued by the government). WTF? In Oregon, if you have a driver's license, you cannot get an ID card. If you have an ID card, you have to

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Meskes: This may be a silly question but doesn't my signature only state that I certify this key really belongs to the person it seems to belong to? Exactly. It does not tell us anything about your views regarding that person or the purpose of the key itself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-26 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: mod-bt Version : 0.0.16 Upstream Author : Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.crackerjack.net/mod_bt/ * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: C,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread srivasta
On 26 May 2006, Wouter Verhelst told this: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:57:09AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: This may be a silly question but doesn't my signature only state that I certify this key really belongs to the person it seems to belong to? That aside, personally, I don't know what

Re: Request for key signing in Shanghai

2006-05-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said: Hello! Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID and sign my key? If there is none, is there somebody in Singapore, where I might be able to go? I wouldn't be able to go in Hongkong (because of visa problems) where I

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 26, Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about using depmod -a instead, how much would it cost? AFAICS it We already do. Eh, typo, should have been depmod -A. I think this is a sufficiently time-optimized version of depmod -a. Yes, this is what the script uses. -- ciao,

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 26, Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, since one cannot run depmod properly without the respective kernel being installed, removing the depmod call will caus harm. Are you sure that this is still true? I believe that this has been fixed a long time ago. It should be

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 26 May 2006, Thiemo Seufer outgrape: Keysigning isn't for judging behaviour but for confirming identity. * Michael Meskes: This may be a silly question but doesn't my signature only state that I certify this key really belongs to the person it seems to belong to? Exactly. It does not

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 26 May 2006, David Moreno Garza wrote: That's illegal actually. It is quite often to get your passport sealed I have no idea about illegal (it might well be against some international treaty, however), but it is very dangerous for you not to have your passport stamped. There are very

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:45:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:26, Mike Hommey wrote: [snip] [0] As long as he doesn't go and vote too, since the people in the voting table would

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would you suggest instead? Stop signing keys for Debian developers, since purchased ID's are acceptable in this community? ;) At this point, I am not sure what my stance is going to be. What do you think we get by having the signed

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 25 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow uttered the following: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would say, off hand, that section 8.2 is for people who want to provide a shared library for other packages, with a stable ABI, and a

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Re: Multiarch preparations needed for etch dpkg

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:07:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Only the dpkg:arch is required and that can be done with Provides: dpkg-arch again. Right. I wonder if even this should strictly be necessary, though, or if dpkg shouldn't be able

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 26 May 2006 07:06, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell told this: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Based on this, I strongly suggest that mere signatures on a new maintainers key from a DD be also not enough, since people have now effectively proven

proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-26 Thread curt manucredo (hansycm)
Dear Debian-Developers All Over The World! may i introduce my, proposal for a more efficient download process I. the reason why i suggest a patch-oriented download process II. a brief description II.A. on the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 26 May 2006, Matt Zagrabelny spake thusly: On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Cracking is not a scientific study. cracking may not be, but determining the average number of people who spot an unofficial id could be construed to be. I can honestly state

Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Tue, 23 May 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: I suppose it would be preferable to fix the stop target of the init There is nothing preferable about it. Stop targets *are* to exit with status 0 if the service is already stopped. Makes sense. In this case, fixing

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread David Moreno Garza
Luca Capello wrote: As a side note, while my passport was valid (re-newed the day before leaving for Mexico because I forgot it was expired after 5 years and not 10), I didn't get any Mexican seal when I arrived at Mexico City airport. As 2 others DDs with me (Aurelien Jarno and Matthias

Re: sending debian-private postings to gmail

2006-05-26 Thread Jacob S
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:21:35 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Jackson wrote: Kevin B. McCarty writes (Re: sending debian-private postings to gmail): Ian Jackson wrote: [snip]

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
David Moreno Garza dijo [Fri, May 26, 2006 at 01:47:15PM -0500]: As a side note, while my passport was valid (re-newed the day before leaving for Mexico because I forgot it was expired after 5 years and not 10), I didn't get any Mexican seal when I arrived at Mexico City airport. As 2

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 01:47:15PM -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote: That's illegal actually. It is quite often to get your passport sealed while leaving your country but it is supposed to be mandatory to get the seal in the country you are arriving, otherwise you could be thought you are an

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 27 May 2006, Penny Leach wrote: struck me as a little bit silly. Penny is clearly short for Penelope. Only if you are reasonably well acquinted with the English language and usual english names and nicknames. Perhaps this was my bad when I made the key displayed a lack of foresight.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo [Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:34:50AM -0500]: know who Martin Krafft is; I've seen him at a number of FOSDEM instances, and I've seen him last year in Helsinki, where I called him by his name (to which he reacted), and where literally hundreds of others did the same.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Penny Leach
On 5/27/06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if you are reasonably well acquinted with the English language andusual english names and nicknames.This is true. One of the people at Debconf 5 I was thinking of, whose name I absolutely have no idea of anymore, was either a

Bug#358591: marked as done (FTBFS with G++ 4.1: extra qualification)

2006-05-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 14 May 2006 19:47:10 -0700 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Accepted openbabel 2.0.1-1 (source i386) has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at least two photo ID's issued by the government). WTF? In Oregon, if you have a driver's license, you cannot get an ID card. If

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Joe Smith
David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Luca Capello wrote: As a side note, while my passport was valid (re-newed the day before leaving for Mexico because I forgot it was expired after 5 years and not 10), I didn't get any Mexican seal when I arrived at

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 07:15:53AM +1200, Penny Leach wrote: On 5/26/06, Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While you're obviously free to set your own standards as to whose keys you sign and not, I have come to the conclusion that the exact same spelling requirement doesn't make that

Bug#357566: marked as done (FTBFS with G++ 4.1: misc (horrible) errors)

2006-05-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:32:15 -0700 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Accepted tcm 2.20+TSQD-3 (source i386 all) has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is

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