On Sat September 16 2006 16:56, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Steve Langasek]
However, that's not the same thing as saying it's ok for sysvinit
to *make* /var/run a tmpfs on the admin's behalf. I think it's
pretty clear that this violates the letter of the FHS, and such a
change needs to
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:06:02AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
I've created gcc-4.1-doc-non-dfsg package, intended for non-free. This
package builds several binary packages (cpp-4.1-doc, gcc-4.1-doc,
gfortran-4.1-doc, tree;ang-4.1-doc), that contain all files - man
pages, info
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, it would be useful if you didn't have to login on merkel to be
able to see your list. I suggest you either submit those files to the
BTS, or put it on people.debian.org or something.
also sprach Nobuhiro Iwamatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.09.17.0559 +0200]:
* Package name: btsco
Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
working on this package for a while. One of the reasons that we have
not released it yet is because we want to make btsco a daemon that
Hi Nobuhiro,
On Sunday 17 September 2006 17:46, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Nobuhiro Iwamatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.09.17.0559 +0200]:
* Package name: btsco
Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
working on this package for a while. One of the reasons
Hi ,
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:46:04 +0200
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for your news.
I did not know other people were working.
Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
working on this package for a while. One of the reasons that we have
not
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:10:33AM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
are checked and mounted. (I do not know how they are going to handle
the fact that /var/run is needed before /var is mounted, mount --move
requires kernel 2.6 afaict.)
Relying on 2.6-only features for this is IMHO a
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has been pointed out to me in http://bugs.debian.org/387699
that syvinit is going to move /var/run to a tmpfs to solve a long-standing
Yes, having the opportunity to mount /var/run on a tmpfs would be really
nice. Please consider the same for
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is clear /to me/ from the juxtaposition of these two sentences that the
FHS intends for programs to be allowed to create such subdirectories without
them being removed at the beginning of the boot process. It is also clear
Well, it would then
On Sunday 17 September 2006 11:23, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:10:33AM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
Relying on 2.6-only features for this is IMHO a no-go. 2.2 as well as
2.4 are maintained kernel-trees and just because the kernel-team
seems to like to live on
On Sep 17, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does make a case for keeping a package like initrd-tools around though.
The problem with supporting old kernels is not just the need to maintain
a few packages like initrd-tools or modutils, but that every important
package cannot rely on features
[Mario Holbe]
Is it?
Yes, mounting tmpfs on /var/run/ and /var/lock/ is supposed to work,
and packages not handling it need to be fixed. And as you can see in
/etc/init.d/, quite a few packages got this right already. A few got
still it haven't been adjusted to work like that, and we should
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:02:16AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Why is this a native Debian package? I know that the tarball it is based
on is not one distributed as such by upstream, but it is based on files
from an upstream source. The way you do it now, you can't see what you
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with supporting old kernels is not just the need to maintain
2.4 is not old, it's just stable :)
a few packages like initrd-tools or modutils, but that every important
package cannot rely on features of modern kernels: inotify, sysfs, etc.
Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Well, if there are really packages that demand on 2.6, they just can
depend on kernel-image-2.6, this is no problem at all.
[...]
No, they cannot. Kernel version requirements cannot be expressed in
package dependencies because
a) You can
Am Sonntag 17 September 2006 12:28 schrieb Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe:
However, as long
as I can easily freeze my machine just by doing really simple disk-I/O
tasks (which just happened when I had a need to boot into a Knoppix),
I will definitely not consider it to run on my servers.
A good hint
[Petter Reinholdtsen]
Here is the list of packages in sarge with directories in /var/run/,
according to the file on merkel:
I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
These are the 159 packages:
Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A good hint for such cases is to actually report such bugs to the driver
developers. Did you?
It's still in my reproduction and analysis-queue. However, 2.6 is not
my biggest priority atm (it will still take a while to get it stable
anyways :)).
You
On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 09:46 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Nobuhiro Iwamatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.09.17.0559 +0200]:
* Package name: btsco
Please coordinate with Kel and Russell (on CC), who have been
working on this package for a while. One of the reasons that we have
On Sep 17, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
These are the 159 packages:
Not all of them are buggy, e.g. ssh, inn and inn2 have the directory in
On Thursday 14 September 2006 17:34, Michael Bellander wrote:
Is there anybody that can start with openwebmail for debian again,
Debian sarge unstable or something? I mean is there any chance to see an
updated verison of openwebmail in debian again.
Do you know whether the RC bugs that lead to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: eaccelerator
Version : 0.9.5~rc1
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.eaccelerator.net/
* License : GPL V2
Programming Lang: C
Description :
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Filippo Giunchedi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: bluez-gnome
Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : Marcel Holtmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://bluez.sf.net
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description :
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bah stupid template...
reportbug should barf when such things are forgotten :|
anyway the package is in NEW, and debian/copyright is ok
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Am Sonntag 17 September 2006 14:39 schrieb Filippo Giunchedi:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Filippo Giunchedi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: bluez-gnome
Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : Marcel Holtmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://bluez.sf.net
*
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Mario Holbe]
So, as long as the Debian policy doesn't handle this,
I agree that we should update the policy to document this fact.
It would be quite nice to have more people participating in the Policy
process in general. There are a fair
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 06:54:05PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
The whole thing is grey territory in FHS, but still I tend to think
that sysvinit should somehow preserve the (empty) directory structure
of /var/run through reboots.
Definitely. When using chroots, it is not uncommon that some
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bah stupid template...
reportbug should barf when such things are forgotten :|
anyway the package is in NEW, and
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:55:46AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Mario Holbe]
So, as long as the Debian policy doesn't handle this,
I agree that we should update the policy to document this fact.
It would be quite nice to have more people
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:35, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bah stupid template...
reportbug should barf when such
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:57, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:35, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
here is the link that explains that:
http://archive.eaccelerator.net/OldNews
and that has been achieved since, if I'm correct. so if this is just a
matter of exception to be done to the GPL, I'm really sure we can work
on it nicely.
so basically, what has to be
Copying the debian-policy list, since this conversation is basically about
that.
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think policy changes need to be seconded. We have a policy team
that should decide on what comes in policy and what not. Although, it
more looks like it's just 1
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 08:05:28PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:57, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
hmm, right. the thing is, the code has been rewriten for the most
part of it, so they are not tied with the turck-mmcache copyright
holders anymore (afaict). so maybe
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think policy changes need to be seconded. We have a policy team
that should decide on what comes in policy and what not. Although, it
more looks like it's just 1 person doing all
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not all of them are buggy, e.g. ssh, inn and inn2 have the directory in
the package but also create it in the init script if needed.
I would consider this a bug, when a package ships things which it
expects to magically disappear and where it thus cares
Hello.
I've updated gcc-4.1 documentation packages (Section: non-free/doc).
Packages are no longer debian-native, also several issues have been fixed.
Also, I've created gcc-doc-defaults package (Section: contrib/doc) that
builds gcc-doc, cpp-doc, gfortran-doc and treelang-doc packages with
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 the mental interface of
Russ Allbery told:
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Mario Holbe]
So, as long as the Debian policy doesn't handle this,
I agree that we should update the policy to document this fact.
It would be quite nice to have more people
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:02:41PM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not all of them are buggy, e.g. ssh, inn and inn2 have the directory in
the package but also create it in the init script if needed.
I would consider this a bug, when a package
Hi,
Currently, it sounds unrealistic to move the apt-listbugs
infrastructure back to Debian.org infrastructure. Which of the Debian
servers have almost-unlimited bandwidth for serving ? I'm seeking
information from those who are knowledgeable about Debian hosts.
Currently osdl.debian.or.jp
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
cons, and issues and difficulties... would it probably make sense to
split the discussion about /var/x being able to be tmpfs'ed out and just
choose another location for the intended place-to-store-things-while-
nothing-else-is-mounted-rw?
Would you like:Want replica rolexes kingkkongresullts.com
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Sep 17, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
These are the 159 packages:
Not all of them are buggy, e.g.
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