On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:35:56PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:28:49PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:34:16PM +, Yann Leboulanger wrote:
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
T'es où exactement ?
Fontenay le Fleury, dans les yvelines
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:48:43PM +, Romain Beauxis wrote:
Le Friday 23 November 2007 14:05:29 Pierre Habouzit, vous avez écrit :
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:03:04PM +, Romain Beauxis wrote:
Enfin, à mon avis la transistion ne sera possible que si elle est
officielle une release
Le Friday 23 November 2007 14:58:55 Pierre Habouzit, vous avez écrit :
Non dans Debian par contre (et là c'est pas une boutade) la discussion
ne mène pas à grand chose. Show the code. Montre un PoC et ça a des
chances de bouger. Si tu ne fais que discuter ça ira nulle part.
Ca je suis
Romain Beauxis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Le Friday 23 November 2007 13:35:54 Dominique Dumont, vous avez écrit :
Il serait peut-être plus réaliste d'envisager une phase de transition
où un système pourrait démarrer avec init-classique et init-ng (même
en mode dégradé).
Oui, mais la dernière
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ah bah non, Debian ne fait que des migrations où on passe d'un état à
l'autre sans transitions. C'est un fait avéré !
Tu me fais peur, Pierre.
JB.
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Bonjour à tous,
J'utilise depuis près d'un an maintenant init-ng. Pour ceux qui ne
connaissent pas, c'est un remplaçant de sysVinit, l'actuel init de debian.
Il est capable de démarrer les processus de manière asynchrone en gérant
leurs dépendances.
Seulement, le problème est le suivant : les
Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pour que le projet avance, il faut que quelqu'un fasse le boulot.
Si les mainteneurs ne sont pas intéressés par le faire eux-mêmes, il
faut soit les motiver, soit les aider, par exemple en leur fournissant
des patches. Je suis donc de l'avis que les
.:: Alfred Sawaya ::., 2007-11-23 11:03:10 +0100 :
Seulement, le problème est le suivant : les scripts de sysVinit ne
sont pas réutilisable pour init-ng, donc les devs de init-ng sont
obligés de réecrire eux-même (ou de compter sur la participation des
users) des scripts d'init, qui ne sont
Alexandre Fayolle a écrit :
Moi, j'y donne un cours Python la semaine prochaine. Je serai dispo en
fin de journée entre lundi et jeudi (après je rentre dans mes pénates)
S'il y a du monde dans le coin, on pourrait peut-être se prévoir un pot quelque
part. Je ne sais pas s'il y a des coins
Le Friday 23 November 2007 13:35:54 Dominique Dumont, vous avez écrit :
Il serait peut-être plus réaliste d'envisager une phase de transition
où un système pourrait démarrer avec init-classique et init-ng (même
en mode dégradé).
Oui, mais la dernière fois que j'ai regardé cela, c'était avec
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:35:54PM +, Dominique Dumont wrote:
Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pour que le projet avance, il faut que quelqu'un fasse le boulot.
Si les mainteneurs ne sont pas intéressés par le faire eux-mêmes, il
faut soit les motiver, soit les aider, par
* Miles Bader:
Postfix has a reputation for being faster and more secure than exim.
Nowadays, the Postfix code base is larger than the Exim code base.
Why is it worth worrying about, though? Are the difference between exim
and postfix really great enough to matter for typical use?!?
Hello,
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages
for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention
in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an
arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or
libsqlite-ocaml.)
Hello,
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages
for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention
in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an
arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or
libsqlite-ocaml.)
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Florian Weimer wrote:
Personally, what made me stick to Exim so far is the ability to
configure retry behavior on a per-domain basis. One of my mail servers
Postfix does that too. You direct the domains to a different transport, and
Ivan Shmakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A helper script, `lintian-man', could be introduced to hide all the
hackery, and to provide a way for the developer to reproduce the
problem. Then, Tag: may be changed to, e. g.,
On Nov 24, 2007 1:17 AM, Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:01:33AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting
Are you building in an i386
On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting
Are you building in an i386 chroot? If not, try that. Adding
--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386 to the
pbuilder/cowbuilder create command line should
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:49:10PM +, Luk Claes wrote:
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a
clue on how many packages are affected.
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a
clue on how many packages are affected. The list has probably evolved
since september but not by much.
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:46:14AM +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
Hi Alex!
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:20:12 +0100, Alex Samad wrote:
I am in the process of rebuilding one of my servers and I thought hey
why not build a package, that links all the other packages I need, and
the corresponding
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Florian Weimer wrote:
Personally, what made me stick to Exim so far is the ability to
configure retry behavior on a per-domain basis. One of my mail servers
Postfix does that too. You direct the domains to a different transport, and
setup that transport with whichever
Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages for a
particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention in
Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an arbitrary
common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or
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Hi Ivan,
* Ivan Shmakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-23 14:57]:
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages
for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention
in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an
arbitrary common
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages
for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention
in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an
arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or
libsqlite-ocaml.)
David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A helper script, `lintian-man', could be introduced to hide all
the hackery, and to provide a way for the developer to reproduce
the problem. Then, Tag: may be changed to, e. g.,
`manpage-has-messages-from-lintian-man'. (Or should this script
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VeNCrypt
On ven, nov 23, 2007 at 11:31:57 +, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
But I'm just not willing to fully revert a decision
Damn I wanted to answer to that, and forgot: I don't think anyone
wants a revert. I'd expect you to make lower the dpkg-shlibdeps
expectations for a while, so that we can take
On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
they have some fixing to do (in particular when it looks like they don't
really understand the issues at hand).
If this was targetted at me, then please explain me what I don't really
understand.
/Sune
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Luca Capello wrote:
http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/blog/2007/11/14#2007-11-14-hacking-equivs
Well, if you really want a system to create your meta packages you could
either use equivs or cdd-dev. AJ is right here that you add a little bit
more complexity to the system,
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On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a
clue on how many packages are affected. The list has probably evolved
since september but not by much.
Except covering kde now. KDE didn't change that much since
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
does your plan include having a version of the dpkg-shlibdeps that
works in warning-mode only so that we can have a more extensive idea
of how the things are going to be, before it stops the development of
the biggest and already hardest packages
Hi Alex!
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:20:12 +0100, Alex Samad wrote:
I am in the process of rebuilding one of my servers and I thought hey
why not build a package, that links all the other packages I need, and
the corresponding configuration files.
Not that I'm an expert on it, but it seems that
Hello,
as announced in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg4.html the
new dpkg-shlibdeps is stricter in what it accepts and will fail when it
can't find dependency information for a library that is used by an
executable or a public library (a public library is defined as
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:39:58AM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello,
as announced in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg4.html the
new dpkg-shlibdeps is stricter in what it accepts and will fail when it
can't find dependency information for a library that is
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Frank Küster wrote:
Don Armstrong don at debian.org writes:
Then why distribute the original PDFs at all in that case?
Because the purpose of the document is to show the differences
between several (free as well as non-free) fonts, and help the user
make a choice.
So
On ven, nov 23, 2007 at 10:14:51 +, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
does your plan include having a version of the dpkg-shlibdeps that
works in warning-mode only so that we can have a more extensive idea
of how the things are going to be, before it
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
But forcing every maintainer that probably had an agenda for their
package already, to comply to yours without even knowing what's coming
is at the very least tactless and disruptive.
the new dpkg was in experimental for a long enough time, and this was
announced
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a
clue on how many packages are affected. The list has probably evolved
since september but not by much.
Except covering
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:15:46AM +, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
But forcing every maintainer that probably had an agenda for their
package already, to comply to yours without even knowing what's coming
is at the very least tactless and disruptive.
the new dpkg
On ven, nov 23, 2007 at 11:31:57 +, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
(in particular when it looks like they don't really understand the
issues at hand).
Please, this ad hominem isn't deserved, because the KDE team could
exactly answer the same to you. Mind you, but the huge workload you just
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: Guido Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: virtinst
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Create and clone virtual machines
Create and clone virtual machines using libvirt.
[ CCing #452511 as I provide an explanation of why we shouldn't change
back to --ignore-missing-info by default without careful consideration ]
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Damn I wanted to answer to that, and forgot: I don't think anyone
wants a revert. I'd expect you to make
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:40:39PM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
I'd rather be more strict and relax the rules as we identify cases where I
have been too strict, than let people upload broken .debs during weeks and
later discover that we have to scan the full archive to rebuild
a bunch of
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages
for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention
in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an
arbitrary common suffix (thus,
Hi
trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting
dpkg-gencontrol: error: current host architecture 'amd64' does not appear in
package's architecture list (i386)
I am using debhelper to build the packages and I have tried dh_gencontrol --
-VArch=i386
but doesn't seem to
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 07:55:00AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Alex Samad wrote:
Yes, I'm doing this for years. I ended up with binary packages
andreas-base, andreas-nox, andreas-x and andreas-laptop on my
local mirror and these packages will be installed on new boxes.
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Luk Claes wrote:
Nowadays there are better alternatives to uploading to unstable for
archive wide testing IMHO. Uploading to experimental is a good thing to
have some initial testing on many architectures, though I would go for a
rebuild of the whole archive for testing
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:01:33AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting
Are you building in an i386 chroot? If not, try that. Adding
--debootstrapopts --arch
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 02:30:17AM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote:
On Nov 24, 2007 1:17 AM, Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:01:33AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
trying to build a i386 package on a
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 10:39 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello,
Hello,
as announced in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg4.html the
new dpkg-shlibdeps is stricter in what it accepts and will fail when it
can't find dependency information for a library that is
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