Y Giridhar Appaji Nag wrote:
I filed a lintian wishlist bug (#527363) requesting a I/W tag when non
documentation packages recommend documentation packages.
(...)
Would there be any objections to filing minor/wishlist bugs against these
packages? I am including a tentative dd-list
Package: general
Severity: wishlist
Just an idea.
Currently, when I am using a new package, or if I have queries
regarding the new package, my friends are upstream and the web.
Usually, not much authentic information.
I am requesting a tracker kind approach for each package.
It could be very
Aurelien Jarno wrote:
Frankly there is far less difference between GLIBC 2.9 and EGLIBC 2.9
than between GLIBC 2.9 and GLIBC 2.10.
I could also have just taken the EGLIBC patches and put them in
debian/patches, no one would have noticed.
I'm sure your decision will either,
1. work
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
I bringed the discussion in out maintenance list but dropping
Recommends to Suggests is likely to make us provide a broken home page
for SWAT by default. We could of course patch SWAT so that the page
explicitely says that adding samba-doc is needed
On Fri, 08 May 2009 11:57:35 +0530
Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@researchut.com wrote:
Currently, when I am using a new package, or if I have queries
regarding the new package, my friends are upstream and the web.
Usually, not much authentic information.
$ man package ?
If the manpage is incomplete
On Fri, 08 May 2009 08:12:35 +0300
Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi wrote:
pe, 2009-05-08 kello 11:43 +0800, Paul Wise kirjoitti:
I find the notion of a default MTA to be silly. Most desktops or
laptops or cellphones proably do not need an MTA.
I'd agree, were it not for cron.
At which point,
On Fri, 8 May 2009 08:58:51 +0200 (CEST)
Andreas Tille til...@rki.de wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
I bringed the discussion in out maintenance list but dropping
Recommends to Suggests is likely to make us provide a broken home page
for SWAT by default. We could of
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:55 +0530, Y Giridhar Appaji Nag wrote:
I filed a lintian wishlist bug (#527363) requesting a I/W tag when non
documentation packages recommend documentation packages.
While I support the effort to reduce disk space usage, I strongly
disagree with this proposal.
A
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be wrote:
The development documentation for libraries and programming languages
should not be installed by the runtime.
This probably means that packages like perl, python, texlive... should
provide a $foo, $foo-doc and $foo-runtime (or -bin, or lib$foo, or
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 08:58:51AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
I bringed the discussion in out maintenance list but dropping
Recommends to Suggests is likely to make us provide a broken home page
for SWAT by default. We could of course patch SWAT
On Fri, 08 May 2009 11:59:27 +0200
Frank Küster fr...@debian.org wrote:
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be wrote:
The development documentation for libraries and programming languages
should not be installed by the runtime.
This probably means that packages like perl, python, texlive...
On Fr, 08 Mai 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
TeX docs should only be installed on systems where users need to write
TeX - any dependencies that bring in TeX docs merely to support
Come on. That we do NOT install the docs by default is already a
concession. We could stop this discussion and I kill
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:27:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Thu, May 07 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, May 07 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only
On Fri, 8 May 2009 12:33:15 +0200
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
On Fr, 08 Mai 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
TeX docs should only be installed on systems where users need to write
TeX - any dependencies that bring in TeX docs merely to support
Come on. That we do NOT install the
Hi Neil,
On Fr, 08 Mai 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
How did that pass DFSG #3?
[...]
DFSG 3:
Derived Works
The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow
them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the
original software.
? Huh ?
How did
On May 8, 2009 12:58pm, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote:
From the LPPL:
/---
| 2. You may distribute a complete, unmodified copy of the Work as you
| received it. Distribution of only part of the Work is considered
| modification of the Work, and no right to distribute such a
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org
* Package name: python-psutil
Version : 0.1.2
Upstream Author : Giampaolo Rodola, Dave Daeschler, Jay Loden psutil-dev at
googlegroups com
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/psutil/
* License :
Your message dated Fri, 8 May 2009 13:15:18 +0200
with message-id 200905081315.25576.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line Re: Bug#527557: general: should have a help tracker for each
package
has caused the Debian Bug report #527557,
regarding general: should have a help tracker for each
On Fr, 08 Mai 2009, jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:
And yet on http://www.latex-project.org/lppl/:
The LaTeX project public license is a free software license
With free software being linked to http://www.debian.org/intro/free
Hmmm...
Argg, google for debian-legal LPPL, thanks.
Best
On Fri, 8 May 2009 13:10:02 +0200
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
How did that get into main?
Long discussion, please see debian-legal quite some time ago. The point
is that modifications are allowed but the modifyied work needs to be
renamed (like with tex the program) as long
Zitat von Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org:
I rarely write TeX but I write a lot of docbook and expect to be able
to convert that to PDF when necessary - without needing to care about
how that happens or how to write TeX myself.
Well, you might as well use the FO output and use fop to convert
On Fri, 08 May 2009, David Weinehall wrote:
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:27:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
No. But we do leave /usr read-only the rest of the time, which
is often 99.999% of the time. A separate /usr is required for this.
Uhm, no?
mount --bind /usr /usr
On Fri, 08 May 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote:
wea...@intrepid:~/tmp$ mkdir foo
wea...@intrepid:~/tmp$ touch foo/bar
wea...@intrepid:~/tmp$ sudo mount -o bind,ro foo foo
wea...@intrepid:~/tmp$ touch foo/baz
wea...@intrepid:~/tmp$
bind mounts don't do ro.
I have been told, that starting
On 08 May 14:35, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Fri, 08 May 2009, David Weinehall wrote:
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:27:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
No. But we do leave /usr read-only the rest of the time, which
is often 99.999% of the time. A separate /usr is required for
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On Fr, 08 Mai 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
It wouldn't be so bad if texlive-base didn't depend (not recommend)
texlive-doc-base.
But texlive-doc-base is absolutely minimal, are you concerned about the
size of this small package?
I still want to *not* have to install texlive-doc-base on systems
Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org (07/05/2009):
As a practical matter, downgrading these dependencies will cause
aptitude and other package managers to believe that the documentation
is unnecessary and suggest removing it.
So that one has a chance to notice possibly unneeded doc? Works for
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 04:06:47PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org (07/05/2009):
As a practical matter, downgrading these dependencies will cause
aptitude and other package managers to believe that the documentation
is unnecessary and suggest removing it.
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:47:56PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
As a practical matter, downgrading these dependencies will cause
aptitude and other package managers to believe that the documentation
is unnecessary and suggest removing it.
Even if the user marked as non-automatic the involved
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 10:14:05AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
While I support the effort to reduce disk space usage, I strongly
disagree with this proposal.
A software is worth nothing without appropriate documentation.
No, that's subjective, with the subject being the package
maintainer.
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 17:55 +0530, Y Giridhar Appaji Nag a écrit :
Debian GNOME Maintainers pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
devhelp (U)
False positive. A documentation browser is useless without documentation
to browse.
--
.''`. Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `' “I
Hi,
Christian Surchi wrote:
ssmpt is not able to handle a queue, so I imagine that it needs
necessarily a permanent connection with a smarthost... am I wrong?
No, you're right.
I don't like this one for *any* machine.
I wouldn't like this as the default debian setup. Risking losing mails
Hi Ben,
Ben Finney wrote:
[...]
So, how do I go from “the URL for the project source is
URL:http://bitbucket.org/ned/coveragepy/”, to a ‘debian/watch’ file
that will enable ‘uscan’ to discover the current version is
‘coverage-3.0b2’, and its original source tarball is downloadable from
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 06:55:43PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 10:14:05AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
While I support the effort to reduce disk space usage, I strongly
disagree with this proposal.
A software is worth nothing without appropriate documentation.
On Thu, 07 May 2009, Y Giridhar Appaji Nag wrote:
From policy 7.2 Binary Dependencies - Depends, Recommends, Suggests, Enhances,
Pre-Depends
Recommends
This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, 08 May 2009 11:59:27 +0200
Frank Küster fr...@debian.org wrote:
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be wrote:
The development documentation for libraries and programming languages
should not be installed by the runtime.
This probably means
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: James Bromberger j...@debian.org
* Package name: libdigest-whirlpool-perl
Version : 1.0.6
Upstream Author : Æar ArnfjöBjarmason a...@cpan.org
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Digest-Whirlpool/Whirlpool.pm
* License :
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2009 13:10:02 +0200
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
How did that get into main?
Long discussion, please see debian-legal quite some time ago. The point
is that modifications are allowed but the modifyied work needs to be
Hello,
Here is a list of ITPs for various mbrola voices. This completes the set
up to what espeak is able to use, except a few duplicates (there are a
lot of german voices, I only kept a good male and a good female voice).
Samuel
#527758 ITP: mbrola-af1 -- Afrikaans male voice for Mbrola
*
On Fri, 08 May 2009 22:27:52 +0200
Frank Küster fr...@debian.org wrote:
Long discussion, please see debian-legal quite some time ago. The
point is that modifications are allowed but the modifyied work
needs to be renamed (like with tex the program) as long as the
status of the packages is
2009/5/6 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
Le mercredi 06 mai 2009 à 23:29 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit :
Maybe we should also consider changing the default MTA to postfix?
Given that the default configuration is extremely simplistic and doesn’t
use a percent of either exim or postfix features, I
Clint Adams sch...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:10:13PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
But moving the 32-bit libs to /usr/lib32 does not make us
standards-conformant on amd64, because the FHS (yuckily) standardized on
storing the *32-bit* libs in /usr/lib on this architecture,
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Y Giridhar Appaji Nag wrote:
Would there be any objections to filing minor/wishlist bugs against
these packages? I am including a tentative dd-list corresponding to
the packages [1] that I found after manually removing some packages
[2]. I will
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes:
In which case, the MBF could concentrate more on libraries and other
packages that have -doc packages rather than on
applications. Libraries that Recommend: libfoo-doc (as mine did and
which I'll fix in the next upload) could conceivably be bringing
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
I have been told by upstream maintainers of one of my packages and by
prominent developers of other distributions that supporting a standalone
/usr is too much work and no other distribution worth mentioning does it
(not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not SuSE).
I
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
You're arguing that a Reply-To header is harmful (not that I am
convinced)
That field is very useful. What's harmful is mailing-list software
munging that field, which is for the author to set and for nothing else
to fiddle with.
Yup. Reply-To
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 05 mai 2009 à 17:24 +0100, Roger Leigh a écrit :
That might have been a traditional reason for a shared /usr.
However, the package manager can't cope with this setup since
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:41:06PM +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote:
Marco d'Itri a écrit :
I know that Debian supports this, but I also know that maintaning
forever large changes to packages for no real gain sucks.
A partial list of
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mardi 05 mai 2009 à 23:38 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT a écrit :
Interesting. I thought 386 wasn't supported anymore (?)
AFAIK the kernel is able to emulate a 486 when running on a 386.
Afaik only when properly patched to do so and including glibc
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:10:54AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
So, does anybody still see reasons to continue supporting a standalone
/usr?
There had been lots of responses to that.
Yes, the most repeated argument has been mount /usr via NFS.
This discussion has happened before, many times. Some folks spent some
time on a wiki page describing the different MTAs, would be worth
reviewing for some background and comparison:
http://wiki.debian.org/DefaultMTA
Some people clearly want postfix as the default MTA in Debian (I do),
and some
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
Yes, and the MBF proposal *doesn't* take into account packages that
previously *did* have a hard dep on their doc packages and only
demoted it to a Recommends: once the default behavior changed.
Cf. swat, samba-doc.
Wouldn't this MBF shake out
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
So, how do I go from “the URL for the project source is
URL:http://bitbucket.org/ned/coveragepy/”, to a ‘debian/watch’
file that will enable ‘uscan’ to discover the current version is
‘coverage-3.0b2’, and its original
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