2009/8/12 Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org
On mar, 2009-08-11 at 00:29 +0200, Carl Chenet wrote:
Mardi 18 ça semble bien. Reste à trouver le lieu.
++
Comme je suis un chafouin, et que j'aime bien les threads qui trainent
en longueur sans rien décider, je propose un CHOIX (et ouais !)
Gonéri Le Bouder gon...@rulezlan.org wrote:
Salut,
Je vote pour le Trappiste. Je me demande si on sera plus de deux :)
J'aurais dû être sur Paris la semaine prochaine et je prévoyais de
tenter de venir, mais ça vient de changer. Alors si vous êtes plus de
deux, ce ne sera pas grâce à moi :(
Je confirme pour le Trappiste :)
++
Carl
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 à 18:29 +0200, Gonéri Le Bouder a écrit :
2009/8/12 Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org
On mar, 2009-08-11 at 00:29 +0200, Carl Chenet wrote:
Mardi 18 ça semble bien. Reste à trouver le lieu.
++
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:44:26PM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
IIRC, there is a plan for splitting Descriptions out of the Packages files
For the curious, there is some extra information here:
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Romain Beauxis wrote:
What I mean is that we can use the information contained in the
standards- version tag and display at this place the list of changes
that were done since 3.7.0
Assuming you have the policy package installed.
That makes a difference in the
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 00:31:40, Paul Wise a écrit :
Please file a bug (and patch) against lintian, I doubt the lintian
maintainers would have a problem with this as long as it is
implemented sanely.
Ok. Are the .desc files processed in any way ?
I looked at lintian's source and could find any
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 01:13:44, Romain Beauxis a écrit :
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 00:31:40, Paul Wise a écrit :
Please file a bug (and patch) against lintian, I doubt the lintian
maintainers would have a problem with this as long as it is
implemented sanely.
Ok. Are the .desc files processed
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 00:48:13, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
That makes a difference in the sense that it helps to improve the
workflow by putting as much information as possible in the same place.
Oh, for Pete's sake, just run zless on the file lintian already
reports for you. If
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 à 00:51 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
If there are people not managing their Standards Versions fields
like they are supposed to, and are too lazy or incompetent to keep
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about removing
DD status from
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I do not have a strong opinion about this, apart from the fact
that it must be present in the sources when someone is looking to
update the package, and it should
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If there are people not managing their Standards Versions fields
like they are supposed to, and are too lazy or incompetent to keep
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about removing
DD status from people based on a
On 2009-08-13, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about removing
DD status from people based on a track record of incompetence.
Yes please.
But looking at S-V as a primary factor here is not the right thing.
More like
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
BTW also Maintainer and Uploader fiels are uselessly exported.
Same here, they are used. While in stable the info might not be up-to-date,
in sid it does and those infos are used by the PTS.
What about exposing them in the Source file for /unstable/
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastien Delafond s...@debian.org
* Package name: minbif
Version : 1.0alpha~git20090813
Upstream Author : Romain Bignong rom...@peerfuse.org
* URL : http://symlink.me/projects/show/minbif
* License : GPL
Programming
On 2009-08-13 11:32:17 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
Not having anything to do with Ubuntu, I don't know anything about the
details, but they have had automatic debug packages and automated
crash report stuff for quite a while, a couple of years IIRC. The
specs for that are here:
Le Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:22:45PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
? I just use zless on that file and stop reading when I get to the
current Standards-Version of the package, but that would automate it.
This is, indeed, exactly the use of the Standards-Version field that both
Manoj and I
Russ Allbery wrote:
Hm, that's interesting, but I suspect that few enough of our users will be
able to use such a thing that we shouldn't let that influence any other
design choices. Most shares are not going to be able to be mounted
through firewalls, for example, so that form of the debug
On 2009-08-13, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
Ah, and it looks like the automated crash reporting offers to download the
-dbgsym packages and install them.
Reading the spec, it seems to me that the primary motivation was
for users to provide crash dumps with bug reports,
[Cc-ing Ayman]
Sandro Tosi wrote:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 07:46, Rince rincebr...@gmail.com wrote:
Ayman Negm is the maintainer of, among others, the gddrescue package.
The package hasn't been touched by him since 2006, and several bugs
about it have required NMUs by other people.
Ayman is
Hi all,
I'm going to orphan Ayman's packages.
If and when he'll come back he can upload the package closing the O
bugs, and/or ask comaintainershp for the packages that someone else
would have taken.
Regards,
Sandro
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 13:38, Michael Prokopm...@debian.org wrote:
[Cc-ing
Hi!
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:15:37 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
BTW also Maintainer and Uploader fiels are uselessly exported.
Same here, they are used. While in stable the info might not be up-to-date,
in sid it does and those infos are used
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
There will still be a repository with all the .ddebs.
And aptitude and dpkg will know how to install ddebs, somehow?
and synaptic, etc?
Yes, dpkg, apt-get, aptitude and synaptic all work perfectly fine.
Julien Cristau wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:58:45 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
If that bothers you, you can use the share we plan to provide.
I'd like to still be able to debug offline, thank you very much. So far
you've avoided answering the question, though: why one ddeb per
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:58:45AM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Roger Leigh wrote:
This fails to address the rather valid concern brought up about
having different versions of libraries and binaries installed
from the same source package. Having one .ddeb per
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If there are people not managing their Standards Versions fields
like they are supposed to, and are too lazy or incompetent to keep
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-13, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about removing
DD status from people based on a track record of incompetence.
Yes please.
But looking at S-V as a primary factor here
Hello thread! /me puts on a package manager developer hat.
Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, it's huge.
I think that diversion of debug packages out of current deb format is a
completely wrong direction. Do you want to teach all tools that get some info
about Debian packages that there is
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Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
Hello thread! /me puts on a package manager developer hat.
Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, it's huge.
I think that diversion of debug packages out of current deb format is a
completely wrong direction. Do you want to teach all tools that get some info
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Yes, dpkg, apt-get, aptitude and synaptic all work perfectly fine.
The debug command addresses my concerns here.
As I've said, there will still be a debug archive. I don't see what's
the problem with providing *both* an archive and
Russ Allbery wrote:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptElfDebugSymbols is the specification. It does
use *.ddeb. There isn't any clear statement about how *.ddeb packages
differ from *.deb packages. It looks like, by and large, they don't,
except they may not need to contain the same set of things.
Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org (13/08/2009):
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 00:09:09, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org (12/08/2009):
Is it foolish to propose this as a lintian check ? Hey, standards
version is outdated, here are the changes that ought to be done
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
Hello thread! /me puts on a package manager developer hat.
Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, it's huge.
I think that diversion of debug packages out of current deb format is a
completely wrong direction. Do you want to teach all
Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de writes:
And I have to agree with Emilio that I don't see the point of a 1:1
relationship of ddeb to binary package just for the sake of library
transitions. I wonder if we could just unpack the debugging build-id
objects to some other location than globally and
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptElfDebugSymbols is the specification. It
does use *.ddeb. There isn't any clear statement about how *.ddeb
packages differ from *.deb packages. It looks like, by and large, they
don't, except
hello dd.
1- can i use 'piuparts' within 'pbuilder'?
2- is required use 'piuparts' in order to upload a package?
i'm not sure .. waiting
;)
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christine Spang christ...@debian.org
* Package name: libtest-script-run-perl
Version : 0.02
Upstream Author : sunnavy sunn...@bestpractical.com
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Leinier Cruz Salfran wrote:
hello dd.
1- can i use 'piuparts' within 'pbuilder'?
You should be able to, but I guess it takes *way* tooo much time to be useful.
Have a look at the pbuilder hook examples in /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples -
they do some minimal testing and are what I
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If you think one should address content, and specific actions,
not personalities, your message does tend to inject personalities into
the discussion. Please cease doing so.
Well, why are mentioning the topic of removing DD status to
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:04:31AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:10:43AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500
Manoj Srivastava
On 2009-08-13, Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe you should spend some time and read the thread before stating such
things.
Really? So, they are already first-class deb packages?
Maybe you should spend some time and read the thread before stating such things.
What
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If you think one should address content, and specific actions,
not personalities, your message does tend to inject personalities into
the discussion. Please cease doing so.
Well, why are
Philipp Kern wrote:
On 2009-08-13, Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe you should spend some time and read the thread before stating such
things.
Really? So, they are already first-class deb packages?
Maybe you should spend some time and read the thread before stating
On torsdagen den 30 juli 2009, Russell Coker wrote:
http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/license/softwarelicense1-1.html
I've packaged libdomainkeys for internal use and am considering adding a
package that depends on it to Debian/Unstable. Is the domainkeys license
suitable for inclusion in
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
retitle 485330 Allow context diff in debian/patches/ in 3.0 (quilt) format
thanks
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
That said, yes, using non-unified diff is as laughable as using RCS or
SCCS nowadays. Though I
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes:
I've been playing with WebDAV, which is an extension to HTTP. So I guess
that will work with firewalls?
Yes, it should.
The only lingering concern that I have about a share is how it plays with
the files installed on your system via package.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:08:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes:
I've been playing with WebDAV, which is an extension to HTTP. So I guess
that will work with firewalls?
Yes, it should.
The only lingering concern that I have about a share
Russ Allbery wrote:
The only lingering concern that I have about a share is how it plays with
the files installed on your system via package. Can gdb be pointed to
multiple different debug information stores at different paths? Mounting
a remote share over top of /usr/lib/debug obviously
Hi:
2009/8/12 Leinier Cruz Salfran salfra...@ipigto.rimed.cu:
hello dd.
1- can i use 'piuparts' within 'pbuilder'?
For what it's worth, Ryan Niebur (Ryan52) -- NM and DD candidate --
has managed to hack piuparts to run inside a sbuild chroot. It runs
fairly slow (takes a few minutes) but isn't
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:17:55PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
First, the naming:
It is indeed us Ftpmasters who want them named .ddeb. For two reasons -
a simple one is that it makes the handling much easier, if you can match
on *.ddeb$. Another one is that they aren't real debs like .deb.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 06:53:04PM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
2009/8/12 Leinier Cruz Salfran salfra...@ipigto.rimed.cu:
hello dd.
1- can i use 'piuparts' within 'pbuilder'?
For what it's worth, Ryan Niebur (Ryan52) -- NM and DD candidate --
has managed to hack piuparts to run inside a
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 443 (new: 81)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 127 (new: 5)
Total number of packages
Le Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:31:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hmm. As my memory serves me, the statement was:
Message-Id: 125014.23574.10.ca...@shizuru
Fine. It's been several years now that managing the standards
version has been an unconditional bump for me.
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:31:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hmm. As my memory serves me, the statement was:
Message-Id: 125014.23574.10.ca...@shizuru
Fine. It's been several years now that managing the standards
version has
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:31:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hmm. As my memory serves me, the statement was:
Message-Id: 125014.23574.10.ca...@shizuru
Fine. It's been several years now that managing the standards
version has
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