On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 13:07 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 10:10:04, Chris Carr wrote:
Is there some forum in which the choice of a default for a package or
service gets made? I subscribe to debian-devel and debian-policy, but
neither seems to contain discussions about
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:02:06 -0800, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Huh. Every system I've upgraded had no problems.
I find this strange, since every system that has ever been etch
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Am Sonntag, 16. Januar 2011 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:02:06 -0800, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Huh. Every system I've upgraded had no problems.
I find
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org):
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org):
I have ready NMUs for most of the affeted packages. I can upload them
soon.
My plans are to upload before the end of the upcoming week-end an NMU
for each of the affected package(s).
This
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:14:45 +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich
hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote:
I believe aptitude purge ~c does the same.
I avoid using aptitude for non-interactive things since I am falling
over two annoying bugs in aptitude for months without seeing them
fixed.
Also you might want to take a
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Completely agreed. The focus of dependency based boot is correctness.
The old system with static start/stop priorities was a pain to maintain and
actually had many bugs which were effectively impossible to change, because
changing the priority of *one*
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 07:58 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
In the candidate version of the DEP, it is not recommended anymore to add an
X-
prefix to extra fields.
btw: Why was this removed? Adding the X- is not only conventional style
in email headers and many other RFCs but also (in a similar
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 12:09 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
I probably misread DEP5 -- when it says formatted text, no synopsis,
it probably means that the entire field including the first line
is treated as one thing. So both Comment: foo\n and Comment:\n foo\n are
the same value.
I've also stumbled
Oh, and I've also would like to see the X- on personal license short
names.
Perhaps one could also add a namespace that is privately managed, but
still global, e.g. in the style of:
org.example.license.foobar
Specifying globally unique a license foobar from Example Org.
But not sure whether
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote:
On Sat January 15 2011 16:33:28 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
If insserv meses up so bad, shouldn't it be able to detect that things
will go wrong too?
insserv completely discards the Snn/Knn values and generates a new
boot
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
It's the responsibility of packages to clean up obsolete conffiles as
they're upgraded. If you run into the case of a package that's been
upgraded and not cleaned up its obsolete conffiles, and there isn't some
reason for
On 15/01/2011 22:18, Neil Williams wrote:
Ben Finneyben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Neil Williamscodeh...@debian.org writes:
Can the rest of us now actually ask if there is anything we can do
to get more people involved in helping packaging teams which are
openly asking for help?
[…]
On 15/01/2011 23:50, Russ Allbery wrote:
Chris Carrranting...@gmail.com writes:
Is there some forum in which the choice of a default for a package or
service gets made? I subscribe to debian-devel and debian-policy, but
neither seems to contain discussions about the risks of replacing
Le Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 01:12:46PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit :
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 07:58 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
In the candidate version of the DEP, it is not recommended anymore to add
an X-
prefix to extra fields.
btw: Why was this removed? Adding the X- is not
Le Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:38:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
Well, I was assuming that DEP5 was going to become an associated text
under policy §5.6.11 and, as such, subject to Standards-Version. That
would bring IMHO various benefits such as: 1) the possibility of
dropping
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:44:10 +
Chris Carr ranting...@gmail.com wrote:
Bug triage doesn't need huge amounts of package-specific skills. It
just needs the people doing triage to be able to cooperate with the
maintainer(s).
[snip]
Is there an obvious way for people willing to do grunt
Package: wnpp
Owner: tak...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: python-exif
Version : 1.0.8
Upstream Author : Ianar$(D+1(B S$(D+1(Bvi
* URL or Web page : http://sourceforge.net/projects/exif-py/
* License : BSD
Description : Python library to extract
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 05:47:24PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
[...]
Got a concrete example of a case that fails?
We ran into the Apache-Bind problem and the RequestTracker-Apache-Mysql
problems and then stopped using insserv.
This one was reported and solved thanks to RT maintainers:
Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 13:48:55, Charles Plessy a écrit :
Given that there are only 9 different fields in the current DEP-5 syntax, I
think that parsers can simply incorporate the full list of them rather than
rely on a X- prefix to determine if a field is in the specification or not.
]] Bjørn Mork
Hi,
| Although I do agree with the improved simplicity, I do not agree that
| *all* incorrect orderings are simple to fix (or necessarily package
| bugs). Unfortunately, there are some packages which require system
| dependent ordering. The most obvious example is the set
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
It's the responsibility of packages to clean up obsolete conffiles as
they're upgraded. If you run into the case of a package that's been
upgraded and not cleaned up its
Hi
Dne Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:44:09 +0900
TANIGUCHI Takaki tak...@debian.org napsal(a):
Package: wnpp
Owner: tak...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: python-exif
Version : 1.0.8
Upstream Author : Ianar$(D+1(B S$(D+1(Bvi
* URL or Web page :
On Sun January 16 2011 04:40:02 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
AFAIK insserv doesn't guess. Much less info is the dependencies
listed in the scripts themselves, right? Isn't this enough?
That is correct. However there are far fewer dependencies
listed in the headers than implicit in the Snn/Knn
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
* Package name: timeago
Version : 0.9.2
Upstream Author : Ryan McGeary r...@mcgeary.org
* URL : http://timeago.yarp.com/
* License : Expat
Programming Lang: JavaScript
Description :
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
* Package name: json-js
Version : 0~20101208
Upstream Author : Douglas Crockford doug...@crockford.com
* URL : http://www.json.org/js.html
* License : PD
Programming Lang: JavaScript
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:52:34PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
Some people have expressed interested in obsolete config files
associated with currently installed packages.
Here's a (slow) script for finding them, plus the merged results
of running the script on a dozen servers and workstations -
On Sun January 16 2011 12:15:18 Roger Leigh wrote:
The main problem with this script is that all it does is spit out
the available information. It doesn't actually check if the user
modified one of the conffiles. An example is attached. Modifying
it to automatically purge safe packages
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 05:47:24PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat January 15 2011 16:33:28 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
If insserv meses up so bad, shouldn't it be able to detect that things
will go wrong too?
insserv completely discards the Snn/Knn values and generates a new
boot ordering
On Sun January 16 2011 12:49:20 Roger Leigh wrote:
You're saying that an unwieldy ad-hoc fixed list of numbers and names
is superior to detailed dependency information… This is patently
untrue.
No, I'm saying that Snn/Knn values boot some systems where
insserv fails. Therefore Snn/Knn is
Hi, Mike:
On Sunday 16 January 2011 19:48:24 Mike Bird wrote:
[...]
I filed a bug[1] with a simple patch[2] to give people fair
notice of the pros and cons of insserv but unfortunately
Julien Cristau simply closed the bug without explanation[3].
Regarding your patch, I find the first part of
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
There is another reason why I would not support an alignment on the
Policy's version number: from the begining we promised that DEP-5 was
not an attempt to modify the Policy.
I don't recall that promise ever being made. Where did you see it?
The
On Sun January 16 2011 13:40:58 Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Regarding your patch, I find the first part of it being quite to the point
while the second paragraph is unneeded as long as the information is
included in /usr/share/doc/sysvr-rc/README.Debian, and I feel it should be
added to the
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:44:10PM +, Chris Carr wrote [edited]:
In both cases I ended up pestering the team with newbie questions because
of the complexities of d-i and of packaging, respectively - not because I
was unintelligent or unmotivated, nor because I had failed to read the
Hi,
I submitted ITP for simple-image-reducer (#607237). That depends on
python-exif, if python-exif has not good support, anyway I need this
package.
Regards,
Takaki
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:07:05 +0100
Michal.$ (D*-(Biha$(D+Z(B ni...@debian.org said:
[1 text/plain; ISO-2022-JP-2
Package: wnpp
Owner: tak...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: tuxfootball
Version : 0.3.0
Upstream Author : Jason Wood jasonw...@blueyonder.co.uk
* URL or Web page : http://tuxfootball.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL-2+
Description : great 2D soccer
Hi, Mike:
On Sunday 16 January 2011 23:37:20 Mike Bird wrote:
On Sun January 16 2011 13:40:58 Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Regarding your patch, I find the first part of it being quite to the
point while the second paragraph is unneeded as long as the information
is included in
Hi,
I've recently adopted a package (nyquist) that only builds in 32-bit
mode. I'm struggling with supporting it on amd64 and other 64-bit
architectures in Debian.
First: yes, clearly the code should be migrated to 64-bits. Upstream
is aware of that and it's a nontrivial effort. I'm
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote:
What is the recommended course of action for such a package?
For now: build on a 32-bit system or in a 32-bit chroot.
Other options in increasing order of preference:
Add deps to ia32-libs.
Add lib32 packages for the
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:59:29PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
We do need your help to find bugs and further improve the installer, so
please try it. Installer CDs, other media and everything you else you
will need are available at our web site[3].
Just did. VirtIO devices appear to be
Mike Bird schrieb:
No, I'm saying that Snn/Knn values boot some systems where
insserv fails. Therefore Snn/Knn is superior in some cases.
Does insserv fail then because it is inherently unable to mimic the
Snn/Knn behaviour or due to wrong (missing, ...) dependency info in
the initscripts? If
On Sun January 16 2011 15:41:40 Thomas Hochstein wrote:
Mike Bird schrieb:
Does insserv fail then because it is inherently unable to mimic the
Snn/Knn behaviour or due to wrong (missing, ...) dependency info in
the initscripts? If it's the latter, the right solution would be
fixing the
Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com writes:
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
It's the responsibility of packages to clean up obsolete conffiles as
they're upgraded. If you run into the case of a package that's been
upgraded and not cleaned up its
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