On 02/05/2013 02:34 PM, Markus Frosch wrote:
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: ingraph
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Gunnar Beutner
One of the most interesting statements in the recent udev
discussion was Steve Langasek's claim that socket-based
activation has fundamentally unmaintainable security.
A couple people have asked for clarification and I would
also like to know what problem Steve was referring to.
Can someone please
Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Assuming we ship Go libraries compiled as shared libraries, where do we
get the SONAME from? There is no mechanism for Go libraries to declare
an ABI break. Inventing one and asking all upstream projects to adopt it
On 05/02/2013 18:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
FFS, yet another new language where the implementors have refused to
think ahead and consider ABI handling? Idiots. :-(
I totally agree with you here.
Considering the mess that we already have with (for example) Haskell
in this respect, I would vote
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 10:53 + schrieb Steve McIntyre:
Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Assuming we ship Go libraries compiled as shared libraries, where do we
get the SONAME from? There is no mechanism for Go libraries to declare
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
At least to me my work on Haskell in Debian feels more than pretending,
and from personal experience with the creators of the language, I have
strong doubts that they are Idiots.
In fact I don’t see how you can have modern
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 17:03 +0100 schrieb Adam Borowski:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
It's not a matter of a little infrastructural complication, it's about
having the slightest chance of reasonable security support -- or even
regular bug fixes,
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 01:27:05PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca writes:
Not all C libraries are distributed from one central site and they
certainly don't expect you to use a central package installation system.
So much more the shame for C.
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 03:20:08PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 10:00:32AM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
As a Haskell developer, I find cabal much more convenient than nothing,
in the situation where the library I want is not packaged by Debian yet.
If I want my
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 12:38:16PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Using Debian packages is a *means*, not an *end*. Sometimes in these
discussions I think people lose sight of the fact that, at the end of the
day, the goal is not to construct an elegantly consistent system composed
of
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:02:18PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
For cpan there is even dh-make-perl. The solution then is to make
equivelant scripts for other languages. The solution is NOT to use some
other package installation system.
Although I've never used dh-make-perl myself, I'm
socket-activation in systemd _helps_ security in that you can give an
unprivlidged process a listening port under 1024. (using a privileged
configuration file)
-Shawn Landden
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes:
Although I've never used dh-make-perl myself, I'm lead to believe that
it is perhaps *the* most successful tool of its type (that is, of things
that create .debs from packages in an alternative repository system like
CPAN, gems, cabal, etc.), and that it
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Thibaut Girka t...@sitedethib.com
* Package name: python-pygame2
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Upstream Author : Marcus von Appen mar...@sysfault.org
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* License : Public Domain / zlib
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 05:30:51PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
And in particular, where a problem cannot be solved in pure Debian, I don't
want Debian to interfere with the bit of the solution that lives outside of
its domain. That may include not attempting to package/patch/alter/adjust
* Adam Borowski:
The worst case scenario IMHO is some people invest a lot of time to
make the Debianized-Go stuff quite divergent from upstream, people's
expectations of how things behave in Go-land are broken when they
access Go-via-Debian
Just think what would happen if every single
* Adam Borowski:
If there is a bug in library A, if you use static linking, you need to
rebuild every single library B that uses A, then rebuild every C that
uses B, then finally every single package in the archive that uses any
of these libraries.
But wouldn't it be great if all the people
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013, Joachim Breitner wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 17:03 +0100 schrieb Adam Borowski:
Just imagine what would happen if libc6 would be statically
linked, and a security bug happens inside (like, in the stub
resolver). Rebuilding the world on every update might be
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