Hello all. I received a message about my ITP bug:
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block 727532 by 727618
Bug #727532 [wnpp] ITP: lin-guider -- Astronomical autoguiding program
727532 was not blocked by any bugs.
727532 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 727532: 727618
stop
Stopping processing here.
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Russ,
It seems we don't have at all the same reading of Patrick post. Note
that what's below is my comments on your comments about Patrick's
comments, and do not represent my view (which I do not wish to express
it more at this point).
On 10/30/2013 07:16 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
the core
On 2013-10-30 07:19, James Lukash wrote:
Hello all. I received a message about my ITP bug:
===
block 727532 by 727618
Bug #727532 [wnpp] ITP: lin-guider -- Astronomical autoguiding program
727532 was not blocked by any bugs.
727532 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 727532:
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On 10/30/2013 01:38 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/29/2013 09:34 AM, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 02:47:56 +0800 Thomas Goirand wrote:
Note that OpenRC already works on some (non-Debian) BSD platforms, and
that it should be trivial to have it to build on kFreeBSD and
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This one time, at band camp, Charles Plessy said:
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Le Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 09:28:32AM +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
Hi James,
since the authoritative-name-server idea was rejected by the list, I was
going to propose alternative:
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On 29/10/13 23:51, Svante Signell wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 00:51 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
(Also, do remember that any decisive outcome other than “support
multiple ones including systemd” and “systemd-only” will need to
lead to the removal of GNOME from Debian.
Absolutely not true.
Op 29-10-13 09:26, Steve Langasek schreef:
I see no reason that, if upstart were chosen as the default, porters could
not use it for our non-Linux ports as well.
With some work, sure.
This is a much better outcome
across our distribution as a whole than to require developers to continue
My name is Alex Martin,
We are providing blog posts, blog roll, and contextual links. We have over
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:47:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:15:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:29:10PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:13:34PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
And this is not just
Hi,
Le mardi, 29 octobre 2013 15.08:01 Russ Allbery a écrit :
However, making all package maintainers continue to go through the
pain of maintaining SysV init scripts to support Hurd and kFreeBSD
doesn't strike me as a good outcome.
It does for me.
First we're not talking about _all_ package
on Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:08:01 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote:
However, I, as a packager, want to stop writing and maintaining SysV init
scripts because they're awful.
I didn't really expect this. I'd assumed until now that most
maintainers would be concerned that existing init scripts don't work
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:31:37AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:22:54AM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
Having read the parts of the ctte bug, it feels odd to preclude the
option of supporting multiple init systems from discussion or
consideration. If
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:10:16PM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
The interfaces of all init systems (except sysvinit, but are we really
considering that one?) still are somewhat in flux, so this is the point
where we can still influence and shape them.
dream
Imagine a world where upstart and
Op 29-10-13 17:35, Ian Jackson schreef:
Wouter Verhelst writes (Re: Jessie release goal: DNSSEC as default recursive
resolver):
There is nothing in DNSSEC which makes it inherently incompatible with
using DNS forwarders. Talking to the root DNS servers is fun and all,
but there's really no
Op 30-10-13 00:16, Russ Allbery schreef:
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez clo...@igalia.com writes:
On 28/10/13 20:14, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
For those who haven't seen it, Lennart has posted some of his comments
about all this on G+:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:10:16 +0100 Helmut Grohne wrote:
Furthering this thought leads to turning non-Linux ports
into derivatives as presented by others in this thread.
If packages are no longer required to provide SysV init scripts,
producing a non-Linux Debian derivative would at least entail
]] Wouter Verhelst
Yes, absense of documentation is common on Unix and Linux systems; but
no, I do not think that this is okay, or that we should in any way
encourage that sort of thing.
By absense of documentation, are you referring to the almost 10% of the
source base that are comments or
Steven Chamberlain dixit:
[…]
substitute Upstart here if you prefer), each package's maintainer could:
[…]
* Write scripts for one system and generate the other from it
or even
* Write “Debian init declaration” and let something take care
of generating an initscript and whatever the other
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:05:48 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
* Write scripts for one system and generate the other from it
or even
* Write “Debian init declaration” and let something take care
of generating an initscript and whatever the other systems
use out of it
Perhaps an existing
2013/10/30 Helmut Grohne hel...@subdivi.de:
What is going to happen with non-Linux ports?
Debian is not Debian without non-Linux ports.
As for me, I think it is not very hard to maintain diffrent init
systems for different kernels.
Especially if Debian GNU/Linux get rid of sysvinit: writing
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 04:29:24PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
While I agree with your point, it's pretty difficult to reimplement the
interesting parts of systemd in other implementations of pid1 if
whoever wrote the interesting parts does not document it, does not say
what it's supposed to
Hi,
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:31:23 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote:
We've had this discussion multiple times over the years. I've been
told multiple times that we still have a non-negligible set of users
owning/running hardware that can't do DVDs. I'm not 100% convinced
myself of how large or
previously on this list Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek contributed:
Hi Helmut,
exec vs. ExecStart= and export vs. Environment= is easy.
Anyone can whip up a sed script to convert between those. The question
is how to deal with more advanced options. Let's say that I have a
systemd unit with
previously on this list Helmut Grohne contributed:
Most participants in this thread appear to agree that the sysvinit
*interface* for services (shell scripts) is suboptimal.
Not so sure, I have various thoughts on this and even the reasons that
it is considered sub optimal but think some like
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 08:59:00PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
Debian is not Debian without non-Linux ports.
You are entitled to your opinion, which is what this is. Debian
certainly was Debian without non-Linux ports prior to February
2011, and some are of the opinion that it should be again in
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 07:25:55PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
Couldn't they just be ignored not to mention already having existing or
far more functional and robust *options* that work with any init system.
A cursory glance at the example above…
PrivateTmp=yes
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:39:32 + Jonathan Dowland wrote:
[...] Debian without non-Linux ports prior to February
2011, [...]
That's only when a non-Linux Debian port (GNU/kFreeBSD) first became a
_release architecture_; it existed as a port since May 2003. Hurd has
been an official unstable
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Olav wrote:
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 05:37:50PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I don't mean to be rude but please read up on systemd and see the pros
of cons such as on LWN.net comments or any distro mailing list as many
are tired of systemd discussion and this wide ranging and much of the
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Wouter wrote:
The last time I used the full stack of CDs where there was no decent
alternative option was when I was helping a customer prepare a set of
installation instructions for a code escrow situation.
Since one of the requirements there was the ability to produce a 100%
bit-for-bit equal
Zack wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:57:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
I would not be opposed to changing the default for xfce for now, and
reverting it if gnome's improvements make it a better choice.
OK. I suggest that we *try* that for now.
If we try, what will be the criteria for
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:09:30PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Wouter wrote:
The last time I used the full stack of CDs where there was no decent
alternative option was when I was helping a customer prepare a set of
installation instructions for a code escrow situation.
Since one of the
previously on this list Jonathan Dowland contributed:
Couldn't they just be ignored not to mention already having existing or
far more functional and robust *options* that work with any init system.
A cursory glance at the example above…
PrivateTmp=yes
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk writes:
Well I meant that they would be used by systemd and ignored likely
noisily by default by others. However this really should be the job of
the service in any case as depending on a third party service for
security that isn't extra such as
previously on this list Russ Allbery contributed:
Well I meant that they would be used by systemd and ignored likely
noisily by default by others. However this really should be the job of
the service in any case as depending on a third party service for
security that isn't extra such as
Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu writes:
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 06:21:27PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Well, I've said this before, but I think it's worth reiterating.
Either upstart or systemd configurations are *radically better* than
init scripts on basically every axis. They're more robust,
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 06:21:27PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Well, I've said this before, but I think it's worth reiterating. Either
upstart or systemd configurations are *radically better* than init scripts
on basically every axis. They're more robust, more maintainable, easier
for the
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 06:18:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I suspect you and I have a root disagreement over the utility of exposing
some of those degrees of freedom to every init script author, but if you
have some more specific examples of policy that you wanted to change but
couldn't,
Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu writes:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 06:18:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I suspect you and I have a root disagreement over the utility of
exposing some of those degrees of freedom to every init script author,
but if you have some more specific examples of policy that
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:50:53PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 06:18:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I suspect you and I have a root disagreement over the utility of exposing
some of those degrees of freedom to every init script author, but if you
have some more
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
I'm very happy to tell everyone that this is *FIXED* !!!
http://youtu.be/zoNoi8BgQjs
:D :D :D
Wow. That's absolutely great zigo!
Although the Caching service dependencies seems to be a regression to
me months ago, where the cache should be generated
On 10/31/2013 02:50 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
The most basic is the idea that whether you can control (via shell
scrpit fragments) whether or not a service should start at all, and
what options or environments should be enabled by pasing some file.
The fact that we can put that sort of thing in
]] Russ Allbery
(Cleaned up the Cc line somewhat)
You can do quite a bit with the hooks that are part of the specification
of both types of files. For example, logic that you may add to control
whether the service should start at all can be implemented by adding a
pre-start stanza to the
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
]] Russ Allbery
(Cleaned up the Cc line somewhat)
You can do quite a bit with the hooks that are part of the specification
of both types of files. For example, logic that you may add to control
whether the service should start at all can be
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