Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net writes:
what *does* concern me is that it takes such incredible (and amazing)
efforts by people like adam for the average end-user or sysadmin to
contemplate replacing {insert nameless package}.
insert libc6. Or insert perl. Or insert linux-image.
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Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
Practically, it's more important to maintain good relations with Lennart
Poettering than with Bill Gates.
fwiw I don't think Lennart Poettering personally would care very
much. He has a thick skin and has more than once poked fun at people for
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. Really classy).
The author is obviously a troll of the worst kind and I hope you do not
think that this is an even remotely credible source.
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Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes:
Oh, holy… this… isn´t… true? Is it?
No, it isn't.
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Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
Your way of communicating is hurting people as usual. Please stop.
I respectfully disagree. There was imho nothing in the quoted message
that would warrant a reaction like this.
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, it is up to
*you* to provide a justification why *your* choice of boundary is the
better one (i.e. no one argues *that* you need stable APIs. The question
is at what level and I have so far not seen any good arguments for a
different boundary).
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matters, if
we accept this underlying assumption, that systemd is good for one but
actively bad for the other.
Oh and of course: meh. systemd-flamewar. *Exactly* what we need…
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Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org writes:
Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of signature?
Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs?
Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory about systemd and its
proponents. Haven't seen one of those in a long time… /sarcasm
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Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org writes:
This is rich. Especially in the copyleft-oriented GNU/Linux land.
(That being said, the FSF is rather good at vendor lock-in as well.)
I'm afraid I don't understand your statement.
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is: That the systemd-opponents want to take the
freedom from other people (amongst other the gnome upstream and debian
maintainers) to use the software they like in the way they like, by
preventing them from depending on systemd.
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of people who wish to use other
software than oneself, on this list in particular. In most (if not all)
cases it where the toes of various DE-upstreams or systemd-maintainers.
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Linux systemd dev says open source is 'SICK', kernel community 'awful':
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/06/poettering_says_linux_kernel_community_is_hostil/
Seriously? You are quoting phoronix and theregister as sources?
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as a data source.
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Can anyone please just read the rest of this thread before continuing
this flamewar? The original question was asked, answered and the answer
was deemed satisfactory.
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posters, which
will be a very hard to get, because in a lot of flames there are people
who get one spam-address after the other, when they get blocked, which
would further skew the numbers towards whichever camp has more
disrespectfull trolls.
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is a very important word here, that you seem to
have omitted in the rest of the mail. You don't have to give up
targeting devs and similar, to try to get new users by having
noob-friendly defaults.
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with a subject
a majority-opinion
without providing justification, that just does not work in an argument.
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or not
this number of people falls into the above mentioned guess for uncommonness.
I think this would benefit the discussion, if these points are to be considered.
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as they are. I think most of the people really using those will have
special preferences about which web/database/whatever server to
install. For this reason I also stopped using tasksel a long time ago.
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on this either,
so it probably shouldn't count as an argument too ;)
Enough trollfeeding,
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, as long as
there are smaller installation medias for this use-case.
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Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de writes:
Please respect our decision to stay away from systemd and still be
Debian users. If possible, please, don't resist changes that make our
lives easier.
*Sigh*.
The problem is not that anybody resists such changes.
I disagree. People *do* in
seemed to mention that there is an official answer to
this.
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Hi,
Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it writes:
A certain number of users seem to be having troubles with pulseaudio, yet you
keep insisting that it's just their fault and that since you can't reproduce
(have you even tried?) then the problem doesn't exist.
We understood it, for you
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ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com writes:
Everyone knows that the systemd crap is armtwisting and trys to
pull everyone and everything along with it.
Please provide some numbers on this statement of fact. I believe (and
will continue to believe) that the strong supporters of
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