Re: [OT] disucssions about off-topicness in -user on -devel.

2007-05-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 10:05 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 07:04:01AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, May 21, 2007 at 11:02:21AM +0300, Andrei Popescu a écrit : IMHO forcing people to take off-topic discussions out By the way, isn't debian-devel an

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:41 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal, I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 08:17 +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: Lennart said Peter said If You and several people claim they haven't met such problems with testing, I can live with that. I also heard people whose experience was different, and my personal one is closer to them. That's all.

Re: apt-get

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 21:34 +0200, Amir Tabatabaei wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 12:29 -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: You should try using aptitude, it does what you want ;-) Just a friendly question: Why is this feature not added to apt-get, too? It is so useful and there are a lot

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
. Now that the complaint is coming from a DD, I hope that some action/policy will be laid out... Greg Folkert (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg01282.html) even made a mockery of people complaining about OT posts. That is just sad. It was a mockery, but if you'll notice I have

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:27 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: I guess you'd rather see the OT posters go away. There are about 30 of us. Though, I got the hint with Neil Sumner reporting me to the DPL, after I told him to STFU

Re: where to find linux-kbuild-2.6.21?

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 16:14 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 01:44 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Ludovic Rousseau said: Le 10.05.2007, à 00:25:32, Stephen Gran a écrit: I have always just asked them on IRC on #debian-kernel. Have you

Re: apt-get

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 21:06 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:19:28PM -0400, Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: It was really hard for me to switch to using aptitude, but now since I have, I get annoyed when I use apt-get, although I use apt-get regularly

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 00:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 19:43:31 -0400, Felipe Sateler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Don Armstrong wrote: For example, in the case you're talking about, you'd have to explain that ucf would like to be able to use debconf-loadtemplate from

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-17 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 07:56 +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: Michelle Konzack said: You forger that DOWNGRADING is officialy NOT SUPPORTED by Debian. That should be changed anyway, since security upgrades occasionally break things too. You keep saying this, I haven't seen this in Sarge

Re: where to find linux-kbuild-2.6.21?

2007-05-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 01:44 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Ludovic Rousseau said: Le 10.05.2007, à 00:25:32, Stephen Gran a écrit: I have always just asked them on IRC on #debian-kernel. Have you done this time again? If not, could you? (I do not use IRC.)

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 14:55 +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: Ask somebody, what distro would he install at desktop for novice or M$ refugee? For me the choice is clear. I use Debian for myself. I choose to support Ubuntu for people that do not want as many choices. This is what M$ refugees

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 21:43 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian releases: testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half year before it's released as stable. The

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 17:07 +0200, David Weinehall wrote: Didn't your AM tell you? All Debian developers are required to be impervious to humour, irony, puns, simile, or for that matter rational thinking. Where do I sign up for this? As I already have traits, I should be a shoe-in and should

Re: where to find linux-kbuild-2.6.21?

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:25 -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote: Ludovic Rousseau escribió: I installed linux-image-2.6.21-1-686 from http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net and I would like to also install linux-headers-2.6.21-1-686 (to build some modules for the Apple MacBook Pro not included

Re: Bug#422137: ITP: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 -- l33t h4x0r numb3r

2007-05-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 20:28 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 Version : 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 Upstream Author : MPAA [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL

On Topic Generally, Off Topic specifically

2007-04-30 Thread Greg Folkert
I have to apologize publicly on my choice of language. I have been contacted by a few people (some from Debian, others being list subscribers) asking to me to consider the wide ranging areas and breadth of people subscribed to this list. Considering this on when using language that cause one's

Re: Bug#421107: ITP: torbutton -- iceweasel/icedove extension enabling 1-click toggle of Tor usage

2007-04-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 15:45 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 04:16:29PM +0200, Jérémy Bobbio a écrit : Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jérémy Bobbio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Torbutton is a 1-click way for Iceweasel/Icedove users to enable or disable the

Re: spam from bugs.debian.org

2007-04-25 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 17:01 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Perhaps we should really propose a Day of No Spam-Filtering on lists.d.o. ;-) Umm, is there enough BANDWIDTH ON THE ENTARWEB to support that? /me thinks not -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The technology that is Stronger, better,

Re: Installation Desktop Option.

2007-04-25 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 02:25 +0930, Stef Daniels wrote: Greetings, I am a happy user of the Debian GNU\Linux Distribution. I would like to pose a question to the developers, who may be able to provide the following option: Could an option for the installation of a default of

Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 15:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to start a new sub-project called Debian4Business or perhaps Debian-Office.I have a slight preference for the first name, but this is discussable of course. Since your are using Debian as a base, have at it. Do you best.

Re: Debian qualified as a OMG operating system

2007-04-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 17:57 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: Emanuele Rocca píše v Čt 15. 03. 2007 v 10:33 +0100: Hi guys, quoting http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSystem#systemadministration Debian has been qualified as a OMG operating system for administrators, primarily because of its ease

Re: Intent to take over: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 22:58 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, the maintainer of tilda (Zak Elep) seems disappeared :) I wrote him a lot of e-mails and he never answered me. I like this useful program, I use it every day, that's why I've built tilda[1] with the new upstream version and

Re: Intent to take over: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 02:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Folkert ha scritto: Not to be a stick in the mud... but I show this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show tilda Package: tilda Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 100

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 22:55 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 02:13:07PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: I don't think it needs win64-only games. Please remember that this is debian-devel and not some general discussion list. HA, that is going in the context is everything

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:16 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: 1) fix software that interprets incoming mails There is nothing wrong with the software that interprets incoming mails; the mails that fail actually fail cryptographic checks

Re: pthread has error on Debian Etch

2007-03-25 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 00:45 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 01:17:23AM -0400, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: My distro is Debian Etch. kernel is 2.6.18 I have post it to pthread mailing list,They said me that i reinstall libc6-dev package,i reinstalled it,But i see given

Re: Compiling Debs on AMD vs. Intel and 32bit vs. 64bit

2007-03-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 11:03 -0400, Michael S. Peek wrote: Hi gurus, I'm looking to buy or build an install host -- one machine dedicated to building and serving a local repository for the purposes of installing/upgrading/maintaining other Debian hosts throughout our organization. The

Re: Compiling Debs on AMD vs. Intel and 32bit vs. 64bit

2007-03-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 21:21 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Heya, And for clarity, IA32 cover 32-bit Intel and works for AMD 32-bit processors. but ia32 will just work fine on amd64 architectures. You can decide if you want to run a 32 or 64bit Linux on amd64/emt64. Both ways have

Re: Maintainers

2007-03-05 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 10:33 +, Howard Young wrote: I know of a way that maintainers could be increased substantially (I expect hundreds to many thousands a year). I am not sure of the specifics but I have little doubt that in the end it would work. It will likely take more than four

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:46 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 14:33 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit : I'm not the one who said maintainers don't admit they need help. And I am not the one who said that Mozilla/KDE/GNOME have enough manpower. Who said that? Don't

Re: bugs.d.o down (was: wiki.debian.org disk problems resolved)

2007-02-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 17:37 +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007, Ryan Murray wrote: wiki.debian.org has been moved to a new host with lots of available disk space, so updates should be fine now. For the first 90 minutes after the move exim wasn't running, so updates during this

Re: GNOME and trolls

2007-02-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 16:20 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: That said, he should have just used reportbug and let the maintainers work it out :) s/work\ it\ out/reject\ it\/won\'t\ fix\ it/ Sorry, but when I see things like this:

Nice use of profanity...(Re: GNOME and trolls)

2007-02-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 20:27 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: If you could also shut the fuck up, that would be even better. I see you have a great command of the language. Really... I'd expect nothing better. You should realize that you are just making a better and better case for how much the

GNOME and usability.

2007-02-16 Thread Greg Folkert
Seems I am not the only one that believes GNOME is limiting. Linus Torvalds has submitted patches. I am betting they get ignored or rejected with to complex for our idiot users. Yes, Joss could you please explain this away for me? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a

Re: fluxbox

2007-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 10:15 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I am sure yoush hasn't done a thing with it, as Experimental packages don't need to be maintained, period. Bullshit. Experimental is a playground, not a graveyard for development

Re: request

2007-02-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 16:44 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:30:40AM -0800, a sh wrote: hi I want debian etch sorce code and desktop picture. I have advertisment purppose. if it's possible for you please sent to my mail. thank Your mailbox probably

Re: fluxbox

2007-02-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 01:30 +0300, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: Hi! There's the following problem with the fluxbox package. The locale in the etch distributive ia already set into UTF-8 as default. Fluxbox has been maintaining UTF-8 for a long time. From July in experimental/ there had

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 15:15 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: For programming languages, I prefer the one that makes programmers easily understand all code written by others. For desktop environments, I prefer the one that provides the cleanest and most efficient UI. YMMV. Wow, my extreme GNOME

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 20:02 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:48:47PM -0500, Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 15:15 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: For programming languages, I prefer the one that makes programmers easily understand all code

Re: update on binary upload restrictions

2007-01-24 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:10 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:15:44PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: [2] Unfortunately there was very little notice of goedel's move and it was originally scheduled only to take a couple of days but was unavoidably delayed by

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 15:12 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 21:32 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : I have regularly had my GCONF stuff partially corrupted in any case. Associations go away, programs crash spontaneously, I look for bugs... find the exact same things I

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 17:30 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 22 janvier 2007 à 09:59 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : Yeap, you are right. I am dumb. I was not sure of it, but this mail just convinced me you are. But let me ask you this, are you telling me that I need to spend *MUCH

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 19:32 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Oh, right. Now, you're blaming GNOME for the way Christian Marillat used to deal with bugs. Fine. I bow GNOME Overlord. People who use the software and report bugs when they find some are more likely to get support than those bashing

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 18:06 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 09:32:07PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 21:16 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:34:18AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:51 +0100, Josselin

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 02:50 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:27:23PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well we shouldn't keep ourselves hostage of stupid upstream behaviour, should we? Contrary to us, GNOME (in this case RedHat)

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : I would assert they are not listening to their former BIGGEST fans and users. You can easily find droves rants/discussions of current GNOME users very disgruntled

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 14:13 +, Ross Burton wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 06:34 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: Are you telling me that these features I keep see getting removed are *NOT* about usability for me? OK, functionality to me... Functionality for me determines my usability. It I have

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 21:16 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:34:18AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : I would assert they are not listening

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-17 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 20:22 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 05:55:53PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 05:22:51PM +0100, Tim Dijkstra wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:03:15 +0100 Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just FYI, I *personally* would

Re: ITP: nspeed -- Prints the currently incoming and outgoing traffic in kb/s of a NIC on the console, no more, no less

2006-12-23 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 13:38 -0500, Joey Hess wrote: André Appel wrote: nseepd is a shell script which prints the kb/s which are currently beeing received and transmitted by a NIC in a direct way only using simple shell commands. No superuser rights required. All other tools I found

Re: Bug#402266: RFP: sxemacs --

2006-12-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 08:56 +0300, Kirill A. Korinskiy wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: sxemacs Version : 22.1.6 Upstream Author : * URL or Web page : http://sxemacs.org/ * License : GPL Description : So, the old addage:

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

2006-12-07 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 22:05 +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:41:11PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: Loïc Minier wrote: - goobox: gnome.org module that did not see any new upstream release since november 2005 and seems to be completely superseded by

Re: Bash /dev/tcp and /dev/udp

2006-11-24 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 13:12 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/24/06 11:54, Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 08:25:27AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 11/24/06 06:06, Jon Dowland wrote: I think that having the shell re-implement netcat

Steve Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check your Debian E-Mail.

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Folkert
I was finally able to acquire an SSP Build Host for you. If you are still interest. Please contact me. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] For technology that is Strong, Better, Faster: Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: no time for all debian tasks was: interacting with the press

2005-07-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:57 +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 7/14/05, Christian Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Anand Kumria wrote: Thanks for your comments -- however I don't think anyone should be able afraid to point out when a debian developer is obviously not able to

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 00:42 -0700, Sean Perry wrote: I just updated to X.org. With apt. Automatically. Woohoo!! I mean full on xserver-xorg too. I did not touch ANYTHING. X team you rock. This is why I started using Debian 7 years ago. This is what keeps me here. One and only one snag.

Re: no time for all debian tasks was: interacting with the press

2005-07-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 21:25 +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 12:03:00PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:57 +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 7/14/05, Christian Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anand Kumria wrote: Thanks for your comments

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for June 10, 2005

2005-06-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 16:00 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:34:07AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: I guess this can go... or be changed to not be so specific. No, it can't go. Note that it has been changed to talk about etch, not sarge. There's no reason to stop squashing

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 00:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Aurélien, On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:56:51AM +0100, Aurélien Jarno wrote: Steve Langasek a écrit : The much larger consequence of this meeting, however, has been the crafting of a prospective release plan for etch. The release

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 14:24 -0800, Blunt Jackson wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:31:20 +, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Blunt Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a general note, I find it annoying, frustrating, and confusing whenever ANY debian package has a

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 06:54 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:01:45 +1100, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If something like this is different, then not only should Debian supplied documentation reflect the change, but a list of differences should appear in README.Debian.

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 20:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:16:24 -0500, Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except I'd rather see --keepcomments as default and changed to --removecomments. My only gripe, pretty minimal. And fixed soon. #295735. Wow, I didn't even

Re: pwc-source headed for unstable this weekend

2005-02-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 20:35 +0100, Eric Lavarde wrote: Hi, (I assume everybody is on -devel, like I am, and as it seems the problem sits between keyboard and chair, no bug report either). This might very well be, as I didn't compile the kernel myself (I just use the standard

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-17 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 16:36 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: [...let's all get along outside Debian please snippage...] Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To: Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: all new Debian diagram - now with less chaos!

2005-02-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 02:27 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi debianista, after my initial work on a diagram, and the comments and the work of madduck, I had some time to redo my diagram to produce a totally new concept. any comment appreciated. http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/newdebian.png

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:46 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: hi I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, namely version 1.0pre6-1 (Unfortunately it does not show yet in the new queue at http://qa.debian.org/~anibal/debian-NEW.html but it is also accessible at

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 06:52 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:46 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: hi I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, namely version 1.0pre6-1 (Unfortunately it does not show yet in the new queue at http://qa.debian.org

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-27 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 16:02 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Romain Francoise wrote: And Debian wouldn't be fun without a few enmities, we wouldn't have great posts like http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/07/msg01308.html or

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-24 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 22:45 -0500, SR, ESC wrote: good bye. Nice of you to stop in for tea. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The technology that is Stronger, better, faster: Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: LVM packages up for adoption

2005-01-17 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 09:28 +, Patrick Caulfield wrote: What with a change of circumstances and lack of time recently I don't honestly think I'm doing a good enough job on the LVM packages, so I'm offering them up for adoption to anyone who thinks they can do a better job. The packages

Re: Experimental gaim_1.1.1-2 for Alpha

2005-01-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 23:18 +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Greg doesn't appear to be a Debian developer so neither of this applies. The first paragraph is good advice in general, though. Apologies for not expounding on this point. Any further deeds done this way, will be disclaimed that I am

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 17:30 -0500, William Ballard wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:28:55PM +0100, Sebastian Ley wrote: Btw: Leaving old packages build from -source packages around would quite well do the trick. But I suppose W.B. wants to call more people assholes before invoking

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 18:46 -0500, William Ballard wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:32:50AM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: No, you should use module-assistant tool, which is a high level tool If I have installed module-assistant and ndiswrapper-source and have not installed

Re: apt-get should be able to install packages directly

2005-01-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 23:54 +0100, Blade wrote: That's the normal way. This way allows me to install dozens of module-source packages and build module packages from them for Debian kernels, without having to install a half GiB of additional software that I really do not need. What we really

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 19:09 -0500, William Ballard wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 06:55:47PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: (c) Download and install it for you. You're right, but there's still one problem: It breaks first and *then* fixes it. By the time it's broken, your old network card

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 19:25 -0500, William Ballard wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 07:13:02PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: Fine then, don't use it. It'll pull the deps before it install the modules and unloads them and re-loads them. I just didn't realize this crap was so brittle. So many

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-05 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 10:45 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jan 04, Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shouldn't be forgotten that the biggest blocker after these things is probably a general failure to actually care all that much. How many people are actually behaving as if a

Experimental gaim_1.1.1-2 for Alpha

2005-01-05 Thread Greg Folkert
I have built this package for alpha and it does indeed work. I have bundled it up in a tgz making it easier to D/L. But all the files are there as well for individual inspection. Along with the md5sums http://www.gregfolkert.net/experimental/ not an archive by any means, but available at your

Re: Experimental gaim_1.1.1-2 for Alpha

2005-01-05 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 08:55 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: I have built this package for alpha and it does indeed work. I have bundled it up in a tgz making it easier to D/L. But all the files are there as well for individual inspection. Along with the md5sums http://www.gregfolkert.net

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:17 +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Martin Schulze schreef: Paul van der Vlis wrote: [...] At least that's been the case including sarge. Hence, such a sentence would not mean anything. I can understand something like Debian releases when it's ready, but many

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 14:58 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Thomas Jollans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, you could argue that debian branches are not perfectly named but: stable is best if you need *absolute* failsafety for critical jobs testing is best if you want a stable system with

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 21:35 -0800, Philip Miller wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: Many reasons people come to Debian... Distributed Binaries is not one of them. If you think this isn't a reason to use Debian, I, as a long-time user, will tell you that you're dead wrong. I use Debian because

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 12:50 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:40:29PM -0500, Ian Murdock wrote: Let me first say unequivocally that the LCC is very interested in getting Debian involved. The question has always been: How do we do that? I think there is one obvious

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 06:31 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 23:15 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: John Goerzen dijo [Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 09:40:51PM -0600]: I think that tying core Debian packages to the Red Hat boat anchor is a horrible, horrible idea. I tend to agree

Re: Status of this ITP?

2004-12-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:36 -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:26:00PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 11:30 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 08-Dec-04, 11:15 (CST), Luis R. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Get off your ass. Ah. I

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-09 Thread Greg Folkert
The most high and most honorable Ian Murdock wrote: Hi everyone, Hi Back at you. Let me first say unequivocally that the LCC is very interested in getting Debian involved. The question has always been: How do we do that? It's one thing for a bunch of companies that can push down decisions

Re: discover or alsa? Solution proposal.

2004-10-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 10:30 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: Lots of users are reporting that ALSA sound doesn't just work when they install it. The cause of the problem is the fact that discover loads OSS modules even when ALSA modules are available. This bug cannot be worked around consistently

Re: discover or alsa? Solution proposal.

2004-10-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 20:19 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 13, Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ALSA is the preferred sound solution, then the alsa-base maintainer should present a list in hotplug with all of the traditional oss drivers names in a file called alsa-base. hotplug

Re: (no subject)

2003-12-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 14:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Whom It May Concern; I'm sorry but your e mail address was added automatically to by list and I do not know who you are? Please advise: Your company What do you do? This is a Linux Distribution Mailing List for its

Re: Hercules Stingray 128 3D Driver

2003-11-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 09:14, Foster William MSgt AF/XPI-ES wrote: Would you have a Win2K/WinXP driver? Thanks. WILLIAM E. FOSTER Chief, Information Technology Security DCS/Plans and Programs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] comm: 703 695-3539 DSN: 225-3539 Sorry this is a mailing list

Re: Howto reconfigure alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-k6

2003-11-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 14:17, Otto Wyss wrote: Otto Wyss dijo: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-k6 but this doesn't show the driver list again! Okay getting dselect out, purge the package and install it again. But now the list isn't shown either. How do I get the driver

Digital Alpha 2100 Sable 233MHz

2003-11-09 Thread Greg Folkert
I have a DEC Alpha 2100 Dual Processor with 256MB Memory and ~60GB of drives space. It currently doesn't have any OS on it (well Tru64 Runtime Only no User licenses) I have a 1.5MBps SDSL line with a pretty good connectivity, but is shared with the business it would be located at. I guess, the

Re: Digital Alpha 2100 Sable 233MHz

2003-11-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 15:47, Greg Folkert wrote: I have a DEC Alpha 2100 Dual Processor with 256MB Memory and ~60GB of drives space. It currently doesn't have any OS on it (well Tru64 Runtime Only no User licenses) I have a 1.5MBps SDSL line with a pretty good connectivity, but is shared

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-05 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:13:28AM -0600, Ryan Underwood wrote: Before that realization, it seemed like the type of random cruft that sometimes gets pulled in on dist-upgrade; a name change would help alleviate that initial perception,

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 04:38, Daniel Kobras wrote: To name but a few. Just because there's little incentive to use static linkage when building Debian packages doesn't mean that we should deprecate it. Unless you're willing to convince the admin of the beowulf cluster next door to install

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-07 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:39, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.22.1207 +0200]: Let's create a package called linux-2.4.22 or linux-2.4.22-pure-vanilla-source-for-you-to-patch with a script which does exactly this. I oppose. Let's get rid of

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-07 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 09:51, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:48:32AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: Would it NO doubt make entirely MUCH more sense, to only have to D/L the Source Code once. Would it be POSSIBLE to LOSE the Zippy-style CAPITALIZATION, please? Would

d-i milo missing (might have fix)

2003-09-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 12:18, Joey Hess wrote: The alpha port still has boot issues. In particular, we still lack the source to milo. This is unresolved. Despite this, CD images are in progress. Which version of milo are you referring to? I still have 0.13 through 0.27 laying around. Will that

Re: d-i milo missing (might have fix)

2003-09-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:11, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:49:29PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 12:18, Joey Hess wrote: The alpha port still has boot issues. In particular, we still lack the source to milo. This is unresolved. Despite this, CD images

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