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Urgency: low
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libsemanage-ruby1.8 - Ruby bindings to for SELinux policy manipulation tools
libsemanage1 - shared libraries used by SELinux policy manipulation tools
libsemanage1-dev - Header files and libraries
python-setools
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libapol-dev - Security Enhanced Linux policy analysis development
libapol4
, right?
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On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If there are people not managing their Standards Versions fields
like they are supposed to, and are too lazy or incompetent to keep
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-13, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
track of a simple version, I suggest we start thinking about removing
DD status from people based on a track record of incompetence.
Yes please.
But looking at S-V as a primary factor here
.
So, at this point, I have a somewhat pedantic issue with calling
the same package format with two names (.deb and .ddeb), but this is
mostly aesthetics, and not a real technical objection.
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On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If you think one should address content, and specific actions,
not personalities, your message does tend to inject personalities into
the discussion. Please cease doing so.
Well, why
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:31:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hmm. As my memory serves me, the statement was:
Message-Id: 125014.23574.10.ca...@shizuru
Fine. It's been several years now that managing the standards
version has
On Thu, Aug 13 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:31:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hmm. As my memory serves me, the statement was:
Message-Id: 125014.23574.10.ca...@shizuru
Fine. It's been several years now that managing the standards
version has
email was meant to be a
release of my temper and angst; and certainly not fit fodder for a
public mailing list.
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
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. The Standards Version gives a pointer into the upgrading
checklist, and that remains useful.
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apparently cdgrab is not anywhere, so the conflicts line may go.
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On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 08:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the
package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce
which policy versions are supported
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
What would you think of deprecating this header?
This would be bad, since when someone looks at the package, they
would not know easily what they have to look
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
In many cases, wouldn't such a relationship be better expressed by a
dependency on a package that implemented the new behaviour? Often it's
dpkg and many of those
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:10:43AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
In many cases, wouldn't such a relationship be better
packages easily, using dpkg-bvuildpackage.
I too am wondering if we should defer the polivy change until
the details get shaken out with a partial deployment of the scheme.
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information, I am surprised no one has been mentioning any figures at
all about this full deployment in Ubuntu.
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not sure I see much utility in a share, personally, since I
have not really had an installation where I spent any time in where the
mount would not have been prevented by perimeter defenses and security
policies.
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On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-10, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-10, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
I would also add that the debug symbols should live in
/usr/lib/debug/ . /full
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:40:20PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-11, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
So, we would still need to create /usr/lib/debug/
. /full/path/to/lib_or_binary/ in either case, and instead
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-11, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
Hmm. I see very little benefit here. Firstly, to use build id,
you have to intercept the upstream build system and add --build-id
(and perhaps the --build-id-style) option to ld
will be assimilated. Resistance is
futile. Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates
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On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 08:24 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hmm. I see very little benefit here. Firstly, to use build id,
you have to intercept the upstream build system and add --build-id
(and perhaps the --build-id-style) option
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 10:11 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Except you have not indicated how you (or debhelper) is going to
intercept ld to add the requisite arguments.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2009/07/msg01229
.
Comments?
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On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
OK, I guess that would work. But you still have the advantage,
using the current debug link mechanism, of looking to see if you have
debug symbols for a given executable/library easily, without having
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
To recap:
1) packages with detached debugging symbols should be named
${package name}-${debug suffix}. As a corollary, no ordinary
packages names may end
to generate the debug symbol
package.
The auto-tools would still have to look into debian/control, but
that is an implementation detail.
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On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Philipp Kern wrote:
On 2009-08-10, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
dpkg knows about them the same way it knows about debs, AFAICS.
Why, then, the .ddeb suffix? Why are these not just .debs, with
a specific naming schema?
At least they shouldn't
On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:48:47AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
The main point is probably that they shouldn't live in the main
archive due to space reasons. Of course we could also filter out
'*-ddeb*' or '*-dbgsym*' as long as it's not '*-dbg
(and with the normal policy rules on regular
packages -- copyright, changelog, etc).
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On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 07:37:10PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
dpkg doesn't know about filenames AFAICS. So you can't coinstall
foo_1.0-1_i386.deb and foo_1.0-1_i386.ddeb, right? So we do want the
-ddeb suffix.
If we are going
the package naming
convention and the contents, not specifying you get whatever the tool
shall produce.
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On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Why is it not trivial?
Because it requires editing the rules file for each such package?
(debhelper using packages all get tweaked in a single shot.)
Rubbish. I suspect all cdbs using packages
.
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I would support this.
I would also add that the debug symbols should live in
/usr/lib/debug/ . /full/path/to/lib_or_binary, blessing the current
practice.
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On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-08-10, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
I would also add that the debug symbols should live in
/usr/lib/debug/ . /full/path/to/lib_or_binary, blessing the current
practice.
You are missing the new features of build-id
On Mon, Aug 10 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17:45AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
There is a namespace issue here, that falls in scope for Policy because it
impacts interoperability; if there are going to be limits placed on the
names of packages in the main
On Sun, Aug 09 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 08:33:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sat, Aug 08 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
I've documented the .ddeb format in the wiki page [1] (DDeb Format,
which is short since the format
: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au
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selinux-policy-default - Strict and Targeted variants of the SELinux policy
selinux-policy-dev - Headers from the SELinux reference policy for building
modules
selinux
On Fri, Aug 07 2009, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Freitag, 7. August 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
While it is good to discover these bugs, is puiparts the correct
place to do this check? Won't puiparts only report on packages
installed on the machine on which the test is run, and thus
On Sat, Aug 08 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
[ Moving to debian-policy ]
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
We do not want to have different helper package start inventing
a helper specific way of building
On Sat, Aug 08 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sat, Aug 08 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
I've documented the .ddeb format in the wiki page [1] (DDeb Format,
which is short since the format is basically that of .debs). Do we
really need
the 'Gates' of hell, use Linux. -- like that
one. The_Kind @ LinuxNet
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On Fri, Jul 31 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
We do not want to have different helper package start inventing
a helper specific way of building ddebs, with no clear standard tha
they are following.
While archive coverage is nice, ensuring
Hi,
I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for
Squeeze.
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but I have not discussed this with him)
Issues to be solved:
(a) Get all Debian patches to the reference security
On Thu, Jul 30 2009, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Manoj Srivastavasriva...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for
Squeeze.
Developer assiociated: Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker
to the standard
being whatever the current helper package implementation happens to be.
I am not sure if an existing dpkg tool can be modified to do
this, but I would be delighted to be proved wrong.
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On Wed, Jul 29 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think that we would need a clear policy of what packages are
expected to do as well. Policy does not mandate that helper packages be
used in Debian packages, and we can't suddenly start mandating
On Sat, Jul 25 2009, Joe Smith wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
Virt-what is more accurate than Imvirt, version 1.0 can tell the
difference between Xen Dom0 and DomU. The new version (1.1, released
on 23 july 2009) can tell the difference between QEMU and KVM, and can
tell
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Mark Allums wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25 2009, Joe Smith wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
Virt-what is more accurate than Imvirt, version 1.0 can tell the
difference between Xen Dom0 and DomU. The new version (1.1, released
on 23 july
membership in the set is not the issue. Adding to it is, and that is
what makes it different.
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This sounds better.
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a significant bug in that package.
manoj
would be nice if we can say that for more shells than just bash or dash.
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On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:48:38AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average
user very likely does not care. The embedded system folks certainly do
--- but I am not sure that the counter
to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
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to be the
default shell, and that the vendor not make the choice.
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On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 04:10:54PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
We want everyone to use dash by default.
Who is we? Why is the sysadmin not the one making the decision?
Why is the Vendor making this decision for the user?
Because
On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 08:20:05PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
But well, one of the ideas is to avoid having such extra stuff deeply
tied to the core system, i.e. essential.
That's it? The time to try to reduce the set of Essential
On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 04:04:03PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If the answer is that we really do want it everywhere independent of
what /bin/sh is, that's fine. However, that's not obvious to me.
As long as /bin/sh refuses extensions
On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:04:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
I do not see an increase of accuracy in going from:
a set of RFC-2822 compliant fields
to
a set of fields similar to the ones used in RFC-2822.
RFC-2822
fullvirt guest.
This sounds cool. Does it support user-mode-linux as well?
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On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:31:04AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think you are not going far enough. Why should I have dash on
the system when my default shell is posh? or (gasp) zsh?
Why would you set your default shell to posh? It's
smoking pot all day look like the ultimate in
restraint. Dave Sim, author of Cerebrus.
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On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
pe, 2009-07-24 kello 10:44 -0500, Manoj Srivastava kirjoitti:
On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
* Failed tests may _optionally_ also write dumps of the virtual
environment (chroot, eventually maybe kvm images) so things may
behind you.
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bashism has been a cuss word for years before 2004.
Source? Policy does not even ban bashims for maintainer scripts.
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On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash from the
systems (or from Debian), it is about making packages really using it
depend on it.
Can you
On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think we can engineer a system where Debian suggests various
shells as the default shell, and the user selects one. And only the
selected default shell is one that can't be removed from the system.
Debian Installer could
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