On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think this is best held on -devel, since a wider audience will
benefit from this.
I've replied to d-kernel, but thanks for this heads up to d-devel.
If there is sufficient interest in the topic, we can summarize
-kpkg.
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after a git pull, very little work is done to rebuild the .deb.
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On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
(i.e. is there any reason to _add_ support for it in deb-pkg or in
whatever the kernel team is planning)?
I think so. If we do standardize on /etc/kernel/*.d directories
the policy wishlist bug be
thought about.
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On Sat, Mar 28 2009, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
A special rule in debian/rules to duplicate apt-get source for
people who are skeptical of thea rchive (and have an ill defined
attack vector thay are being paranoid about) -- or to provide
On Mon, Mar 30 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
My slight preference is a script with a well known name, since
that script can then be extracted and used by DEHS/PTS like systems,
without requireing that the whole source be unpoacked
On Mon, Mar 30 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
get-orig-source: get-latest-source
get-latest-source:
get-debian-source:
At the cost of additional complexity of the specification, which I'm not
really happy about. I'd rather standardize one single
On Thu, Mar 26 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
Not currently seems to imply that at some point it will be
mandatory at some point. I find that somewhat presumptuous, but
perhaps I am reading too much into the in this current time bit. I
, that is another story.
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On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
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On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
If the spec is being bruited under the understanding that
the flaws do not matter
Who's doing that? Of course the flaws matter.
So answering
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,
| 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
|notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
|documentation and/or other materials provided
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On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Noah Slater wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 05:50:26PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am expressing my opinion now, on a mailing list devoted to
debian development. I have not been keeping up witht eh
bureaucratic rigmarole that seems to be being wrapped
On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
At this stage? If you are not willing to listen to feedback,
that had better be never.
Feedback on the machine-parseable copyright specification is openly
solicited (though it is currently
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On Sat, Mar 21 2009, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
o) It should name the original authors -- which, in my view, is
distinct from every subsequent contributor. This can bea matter of
subjective interpretation, though.
Allow me to disagree. While
licenses the
package comes with is required, but there is no reason to create a
partial list of copyright holders --- until there is need to.
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On Sat, Mar 21 2009, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
Hi Manoj,
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
o) It should name the original authors -- which, in my view, is
distinct from every subsequent contributor. This can bea matter of
subjective interpretation, though.
Allow me to disagree. While
to travel on the Titanic, why not go
first class?
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just work?
Am I missing something, since munin is seen as a replacement for
netstat?
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apply, and copyright holders will be opportunistically captured.
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On Wed, Mar 18 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
It seems to me that you are indeed close, but with the exception of
this required include in all our debian/rules, which will be a PITA to
achieve
On Wed, Mar 18 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:08:56AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream
sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities
outside of the unpacked Debian source package
is that one is not dependent on dpkg
to build packages (which, in my eyes, is a critical advantage by
itself).
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On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
And you are missing the point that making people type stuff on
the command line for site specific stuff looses out to being able to
edit a conffile instead.
Who said the command line
On Tue, Mar 17 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:36:07AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
# in debian/rules
-include /etc/buildpackage.mk
It seems to me that you are indeed close, but with the exception of
this required include in all our debian/rules, which
will be useful only for testing by the speakers of the original
langiage the debconf templates were written in. This seems like a step
back
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On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
I would not be against a recommendation in policy to implement
direct-from-vcs upstream tarballs to be created vbia get-orig-source,
and everyone else just use debian/watch and debian/urepack files
rebuild the archive on my buildd -- and the snippet approach allows for
it.
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mentioned in policy) uses that file;p there is no need to add stuff
into policy that we already have.
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On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
In the non-snippet method proposed, there is no way for the
package maintainer to override project defaults yet cater user set
variable settings, since the information is lost.
You're
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
However, if the caller really wish that his build options prevail in
all cases, he can use make -e (and dpkg-buildpackage has the -R
option that let him call debian/rules as make -e -f debian/rules
the change is opt-in.
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On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
a) Run a upstream version check from cron, which mails me if there are
new upstream versions of something I have.
b) If there is a new upstream version, cd checked out dir
1. No munging required
On Sun, Mar 15 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:48:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream
sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities
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On Fri, Mar 13 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
There are several things I dislike about the first option.
1. I do not like that policy would turn around 15 years of convention
and suddenly outlaw $(MAKE) -f debian/rules foo. This will break
many of my packages; and I do
On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 06:48:32PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Oh, I think the existing language is perfectly unambiguous, I'm just saying
that the behavior described doesn't seem to be what most/many maintainers
want in practice, with the result
defaults otherwise (buildd's can set arch specific
flags just like site admins can), please feel free to point it out.
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On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:13:51AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
This is what diferentiates is from uscan; indeed, I use uscan in
the cases where I provide the target, The target unpacks the
raw upstream source, munges it (by, say
to an end. Please log off. Bob Irwin
(bir...@ficc.ferranti.com)
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Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
a) Run a upstream version check from cron, which mails me if there are
new upstream versions of something I have.
b) If there is a new upstream version, cd checked out dir
1. No munging required
On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
a) Run a upstream version check from cron, which mails me if there are
new upstream versions of something I have.
What happens if your watch file breaks? Do you check upstream announcements
manually, too?
While
Hi,
[Moving this away from the BTS]
On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:38:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Is this so very different from what people do? Some times I do
not package every upstream version, if they are coming in rapid
On Wed, Mar 11 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
On 11-Mar-2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
I am wondering which is of more use to the end users as
well: I can always get the sources of the package I have
already on my disk
again, if Russ is willing to let me back in.
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is of more use to the end users as well: I
can always get the sources of the package I have already on my disk
from Debian, but getting the latest munged source seems more useful to
me.
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On Wed, Feb 25 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 18 2009, Theodore Tso wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:14:49AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
This is a heads up for a major change in kernel-package, the
tool to create
, but that expectation was
unfounded.
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On Wed, Feb 25 2009, Dominique Dumont wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
(I generally tend to code configuration files in a scripting
language if the code is written in a scripting language).
Uh ?
/etc/kernel-pkg.conf, for example, is in Perl. You may define
posting for
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On Sun, Feb 22 2009, Vincent Danjean wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think the correct thing for the wrapper to do is
a) change branch to the upstram_version_branch, and commit the new
upstream.
b) Change back to the local branch
c) run ucf and let the user do their thing
justification).
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On Sun, Feb 22 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Right, but when I hook into apt-get, I can get the configuration file
shipped with the packages. But that has nothing to do with ucf.
What does hook into apt
On Sun, Feb 22 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Right, but when I hook into apt-get, I can get the configuration file
shipped
On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Hi Manoj, Hi debian-devel,
Manoj Srivastava hat am Fri 20. Feb, 12:04 (-0600) geschrieben:
On Fri, Feb 20 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
I'm packaging etcgit [1], a system to manage configuration files in /etc
with git, similar to etckeeper. Etcgit
On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Frank Küster wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
Yes, ucf should not touch the configuration file, because the merge
was done by etcgit. When ucf sees the “old” configuration file it's
already updated by etcgit. The ucf call is only to let ucf update it's
On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
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On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Manoj Srivastava hat am Fri 20. Feb, 12:04 (-0600) geschrieben:
On Fri, Feb 20 2009, Jörg Sommer wrote:
I'm packaging etcgit [1], a system to manage configuration
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libselinux1 - SELinux shared libraries
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On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:14:49AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
This is a heads up for a major change in kernel-package, the
tool to create user packaged kernel images and headers; which will
make the make-kpkg script far less error
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. (For example, expressing
disappointment in the level of support while doing nothing to help
the process along).
manoj
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? And that browsing is still a valid
activity (because of the new packages, if nothing else), even with 10l+
packages in the archive?
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On Wed, Jan 07 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
I also still feel there should be a debian-selinux mailing list,
probably targeted at both DDs and users. Would you care to take the
lead on that and request one?
There are already
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