* by any stretch of the imagination,
and can be taken as quite insulting, but it isn't a sexual insult.
Does the fact that the insult was not sexual somehow make it
acceptable behaviour?
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:54:40PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
Thomas Weber thomas.weber.m...@gmail.com writes:
Am Montag, den 15.12.2008, 10:06 + schrieb Steve McIntyre:
I've been talking
are these paragraphs only relevant to the ftp team and
the archive, and not the release team and the, umm, release?
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. Something as intrusive as this proposal can't be just discussed
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can't simply ask people to not feel offended when they do.
s/sexism/racism and everyone gets the point.
It is far easier to dismiss things that offend _other_ people.
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, and I'll create a composite
page for the rationale for various proposals, with the impact table I
have been sending in email.
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On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Manoj Srivastava:
Since when have sexist remarks come under being humour?
At least since 1420 or so (Oswald von Wolkenstein, Durch Barbarei,
Arabia). There are probably way older examples.
Yes, the same time period that brought
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Noah Slater wrote:
You are missing context.
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On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
Il giorno dom, 23/11/2008 alle 13.57 -0600, Manoj Srivastava ha scritto:
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Federico Di
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, with the issue on how to go about
releasing lenny, all these proposals are related.
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On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Manoj Srivastava [Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:38:56 -0600]:
That does not seem to make sense. Either you have
'none of this non-free crap in the archive ever'
or you have
'the release team downgrades these bugs and includes non-free crap
On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le samedi 15 novembre 2008 à 19:39 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Hm, no, the impression that I got from this discussion that at least
several people here think the result of Further discussion is:
i Do we require source for firmware
On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Frans Pop wrote:
On Sunday 16 November 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think we can be reasonably sure that the current spate of
discussions is about releasing Lenny. For this action, any of the
ballot options will have a distinct decision; and the ballot should
On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:42:19AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I do not think throwing options out because they are not of a
narrow and limited scope is right. The proposer and sponsors can
withdraw them, if they think the scope is too
formally declared to be amendments of the
original proposal.
Our voting methods do not deal well with related options being
on separate ballots.
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to tactical voting our voting method is not designed to deal with.
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This one time, at band camp, Manoj Srivastava said:
On Sat, Nov 15 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
| We as Developers at large continue to trust our release team to follow
| all these goals, and therefor encourage them to continue making
| case
no other option.
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hesitant about my wisdom, my first cutr at a ballot
would be all the 6 proposals, plus a default, which is more or less
proposal 1.
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On Wed, Nov 12 2008, Sven Luther wrote:
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:58:29PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
That's an even greater feat of double-think than is usual around
non-free.
If you have proof that the blobs are definitely not the
preferred form of modification, and thus
being
censored.
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On Tue, Nov 11 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 08:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
So far as I can see, the only significant difference between #5 and #2
(or #3) is the requirement that upstream distributes under a license
argument would have helpd for including
netscape in main as Alex Yukhimets was arguing back in '97. There might
be short term gain in popularity by letting the line shift on freedom
(heck, windows still is the dominant OS for a reason).
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Just because a subset of users can benefit from the sources for
code executed in a processor does not mean freedom has become
meaningless.
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On Sat, Oct 25 2008, Jeff Carr wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:22, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It should not take us an indefinite time to release with
firmware blobs gone. I'll stake my reutation that the period involved
is not indefinite, and there is a upper
On Sat, Oct 25 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
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Your argument boils down to: There is function that will never
be supported by free software.
This is an incorrect assumption too, there are several pieces of free
in Barber, North
Carolina.
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I take that back. postscript is a programming language, PDF
might not be. Scratch what I said in my previous email.
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On Fri, Oct 24 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:23:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23 2008, martin f krafft wrote:
It's all a matter of defining what your priorities are, which brings
us back to the Social Contract, which says that these include
.
This is what we have done in the past, through GR's for Sarge
and Etch. We should not become Blase about shipping non-free operating
systems. It should not become common place.
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against the interests of the users by trying to prevent Debian from
providing them a free operating system are indeed few.
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On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
acceleration, right? So the box can be installed, and is usable for
non-gaming purposes. The drm stuff can possibly be gotten from non
You can always use VESA, yes. I don't think the X.org
important to NMU, especially given their impact on the
installer. I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
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On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Bastian Blank wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:32:51PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Seems like there are patches stripping the kernel of these
non-free blobs. So, how much would out hardware support be degraded?
How many people are affected by these non-free
packages.
I'll sign up to be on the maintainers list for such a package.
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:55:00AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 11:43 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Actually, I think we need a GR on the lines of
,
| http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_007 | General Resolution:
Handling source-less firmware
so, we should then pass a GR
deleting the SC and the DFSG, and just ship whatever is convenient. I
am not sure I would still want to be part of the project that does
that, though.
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:52:40PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think that we should not just assume that the developers think
that violating the DFSG is acceptable just to release a new version. I
Sure, but we shouldn't assume
not. I looked.
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:38:00PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
... and if it is *not* different, why should be the release managers
be considered responsible for it? They just
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for a single firmware blob?
IMO this is an RC bug in the new kernel-package.
That just makes me question your technical judgement.
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Violence.
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Be sure to get kernel-package_11.005_all.deb. The 11.005 fixes a
critical regression, born of a copypaste error from late night
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On Wed, Oct 08 2008, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you see a particular problem with requiring that?
Yes. I think main should remain self contained. This is the
same reason we have a contrib section -- packages in contrib can not be
built
On Wed, Oct 08 2008, Clint Adams wrote:
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:30:50PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
So I think we need to modify the proposal, not the policy.
We need to stop pretending that patent enforcement is one of our
responsibilities or that we expose ourself to any kind
On Wed, Oct 08 2008, Clint Adams wrote:
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 04:37:26PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
So don't. Don't put any of the patent encumbered sources in main
either -- there is nothing that says patent infringement does not
happen as source code.
That would
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: The beatings will continue until morale
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documents (and debian-legal).
For example, it mentions nothing about gfdl and invariant bits.
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On Wed, Sep 17 2008, Vincent Danjean wrote:
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I think we are have a low enough avc denial rates that
unconfined/permissive already provides value. We are pretty close to
achieving unconfined/enforcing fo Lenny, and with help from people I
think we can
, especially if
people help identify the problem areas.
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that this is pretty close to working now (for my
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Description:
libapol-dev - Security Enhanced Linux policy analysis development
libapol4 - Security
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Description:
libapol-dev - Security Enhanced Linux policy analysis development
libapol4 - Security
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