On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:12:27AM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
According to Richard Braakman:
Package: gcc (debian/main).
Maintainer: Debian GCC maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
58412 r-base: Can't build from source
59819 gcc_2.95.2-7(frozen): fails to compile itself on m68k
61258
The following packages have survived the bug horizon, in some cases twice,
because they are too important to drop. These bugs will delay the release
of potato.
Package: boot-floppies (debian/main).
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-boot@lists.debian.org
58266 [fixed in CVS] PCMCIA
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Richard Braakman wrote:
...
Package: libgd-graph-perl (debian/contrib).
Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
59442 libgd-graph-perl: Missing files, missing dependencies
...
This also takes
normal does not mean please ignore this bug until the sun goes out.
If you mark a bug release-critical, then that means I have to worry about
it, and have to make other people worry about it. Please don't do that
unless the bug really is critical to the release.
Richard Braakman
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 01:20:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
tkirc (not installable on any arch, depends on ircii, which isn't in
potato or woody)
ircii is now in non-us.
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are
already too many to deal with. (We got 21 new ones just today.
Simply reading all of them takes more than an hour.)
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though.
Classic mistake. The important severity is misnamed. It doesn't mean
this bug is important, it means this package is unfit for release.
The bug was fixed today, though.
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a different problem). Removal of a package is final.
Richard Braakman
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Total number of bugs listed: 34
Explanation for tags:
* [FIX]: describes
on non-fee packages should
be considered RC.
They are release-critical for that package.
In any case, I think we should have at least one working Netscape to go
with a release. It is a special case.
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for the bootfloppies),
and perl-5.005.
tkstep8.0 was also on the too important list last time, but I think
it can be removed after all, because all packages depending on it are
happy with tk8.0 instead.
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in frozen (and may not even exist in unstable anymore..)
Okay, I'm excluding it from the list. Version 0.7-1 is in potato now,
and it's been compiled for all architectures.
Richard Braakman
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:50:19PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Richard Braakman wrote:
Package: autofs (debian/main).
Maintainer: Justin Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
52132 autofs: Race condition when expiring autofs submounts leaves daemon
crippled
[STRATEGY] Patch
version.
However, what else has changed in quota 2.00? Are there incompatibilities?
Richard Braakman
, not potato, and that this
bug should not affect the release of sawmill with potato?
Yes. There is an exclusion mechanism for this, but it is hard to identify
such bugs. (Looking at the version number is not enough, it needs someone
to actually test it on the potato version, like you did.)
Richard
.
Richard Braakman
Hmpf, I sent the previous announcement before it was quite finished.
Here is the list of bugs I meant to append.
This is the current list of bugs that are headed for the horizon.
I generated it from the bugscan report of Mar 12 15:08, and subtracted
the bugs that were fixed by uploads I installed
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:07:11PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote:
Hello
Package: fetchmailconf (debian/main)
Maintainer: Paul Haggart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[REMOVE] This package can be removed if it is not fixed.
57287 generates wrong config files
Hello!
I fixed that one a couple
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 12:42:54AM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote:
Speaking of which, where did netdate go? I've been wondering for a
while what happened to it.
It didn't actually have a license.
I've installed tclx8.0.4
and removed tclx76.
The versions of tclx76 that I removed are still available in slink, so
I didn't put any in project/orphaned.
Richard Braakman
I removed these packages from frozen today.
package: communicator-dmotif-408 (debian/non-free).
Maintainer: Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Took out netscape4.08 packages]
48163 Cannot coexist with current LessTif package.
Package: communicator-smotif-461 (debian/non-free).
Maintainer: Adam
to be the last one we have. (I found no trace of tclx80).
The situation was a bit too complex for me to investigate today.
Richard Braakman
P.S. I now live and work in Helsinki, but I don't have an internet
connection at home yet (or, in fact, anything other than a bed).
(IKEA, it's still
This is the current list of bugs that are headed for the horizon.
I generated it from the bugscan report of Feb 27 03:04.
I'll make the final list on the morning of the 29th (GMT).
If a package you like is on this list, now is the time to save it.
Richard Braakman
(Please remember that debian
This is the current list of bugs that are headed for the horizon.
I generated it from the bugscan report of Feb 23 15:10.
Richard Braakman
(Please remember that debian-devel-announce is an announcements list.
Discussions about announcements should be held on the appropriate list,
usually
This is the current list of bugs that are headed for the horizon.
I generated it from the bugscan report of Feb 17 15:09.
Richard Braakman
(Please remember that debian-devel-announce is an announcements list.
Discussions about announcements should be held on the appropriate list,
usually
). If you want to help, there are lots of other
ways, now that reminder mails are being taken care of. Look at
the [HELP] tags in the bugscan report for example.
Richard Braakman
(Please remember that debian-devel-announce is an announcements list.
Discussions about announcements should be held
to be a Debian developer, since the task involves access
to the bugscan comments file, which resides on master.
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(Please remember that debian-devel-announce is an announcements list.
Discussions about announcements should be held on the appropriate list,
usually debian-devel.)
I vote these most likely to delay the release. They are difficult
packages that we can't really do without, and seem to have been
abandoned by their maintainers. Please help.
Richard Braakman
Package: altgcc (debian/main).
Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
53401 altgcc does
distributions start out with the same set
of packages, but unstable will be updated rapidly, while frozen
will have only bugfixes applied in preparation for its release.
We expect the freeze process to take about two months.
Richard Braakman
Debian Release Manager
[1] Debian releases are code
that there are a number of packages in Incoming that should
still go into potato. I will process them this weekend.
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.)
Remember that I will be _very_ busy during this time. I try to
reply to all my mail, but I may be swamped in the near future.
Richard Braakman
party,
but it will last longer and have a cooler name :-)
(I note that bug, bash, and festival are all Debian packages... so
someone needs to package grand).
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the remaining bugs, if necessary.
Then a new Test Cycle starts.
I hope that two Test Cycles will be enough; that will put the release near
the end of February.
Thanks,
Richard Braakman
), the release-critical bug pages
(http://master.debian.org/~wakkerma/bugs), and email.
If there's enough interest, we will continue on Sunday.
Wear your big stompin' boots, and prepare to splatter bug juice
all over the dist!
--
Richard Braakman
(60 days till freeze)
is set to ssh.
The mailing list for coordination is debian-boot; CVS update messages
are also sent there. The bug reports are collected under the
package name boot-floppies.
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boot disks and CD images are created, and the cycle begins again.
Richard Braakman
. Right now it looks like potato will be
completely incompatible with slink for C++ programs. We can no longer
build the slink compatibility libraries on potato systems.
In addition, there must be working powerpc bootdisks if we're going to
release powerpc.
Richard Braakman
Hmm... perhaps a more catching name like why-free would be better?
No-one's going to read gnu-philosophy :-)
Richard Braakman
It uses the ancient Optional keyword. It looks like dpkg merged
that with the Suggests, whereas dpkg-scanpackages lets it override
the Suggests.
Richard Braakman
I made the following changes today:
* Removed old files from experimental:
egcc-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
libg++2.8.2-dev-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
gpc-doc-ss_2.92.27-1_all.deb
libg++2.8.2-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
gpc-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
These were no longer generated by the
Oleg Krivosheev wrote:
is there REALLY plans to release something around June 6?
No, and there never were. Maybe they mean snapshots of unstable?
Richard Braakman
.
Richard Braakman
* identd
* tcpdump
* lynx
* ssh
This looks like a rather large base system, you see. Which parts would
be the release goal for potato?
Richard Braakman
Brian Almeida wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 01:02:10PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
Hmm... then why isn't it used on my system? devpts is mounted, I
have /dev/ptmx, but /dev/pts is empty.
Perhaps you aren't using anything that uses unix98 ptys? Not everything
uses them by default, you
around to saying so)
Making this a release goal will be counterproductive, since such a project
would delay the release until sometime in 2000.
Richard Braakman
will have to find a scheme that can be handled by generic tools.
Richard Braakman
them be added into updates.
Um, we already have this. It's called 'stable-updates' or
'proposed-updates'.
Not really. Packages are rejected from there, if they are not accepted
for stable. It's not a permanent repository for unstable packages compiled
for stable.
Richard Braakman
Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have a long history of overly optimistic freeze dates :-) I'd like
to try something else this time. I note, though, that if we do manage
to freeze on July 1, we'll be able to have a release in time for the
Linuxworld
to its list.
This way, the Lintian page for that tag will form a useful index.
Richard Braakman
it sit there
and rot instead.
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was caused by a mistake I made yesterday
(I left a dangling symlink in the archive). The problem will correct
itself tonight automatically.
Richard Braakman
for [
contains sequences like
.B \-b \fIfile\fP
The \fI and \fP don't look like man macros to me.
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sponsored full pamification as a release goal. The main
packages that need work are the shadow suite, and xdm.
Perl 5.005:
Two people volunteered as coordinator for this, and promptly got
into an argument :-) I'll pick wait and see on this one.
Richard Braakman
Ian Lynagh wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
These are installed now.
I assume the delay with libgtop1 was that it was a new package? If so,
please remove libgtop0.
Yes... I'll get around to that later :-)
Richard Braakman
Josip Rodin wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:55:44PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
mozilla should work for potato
Maybe it will ;) We'll try.
If it doesn't, I guess the current mozilla should be removed? It's sort
of old now, and it doesn't work with glibc 2.1.
Richard
new ones.
I don't think we can ever reduce the number of bugs unless the
ratio of maintainers to packages goes up.
Richard Braakman
Joel Klecker wrote:
At 19:06 +0200 1999-05-10, Richard Braakman wrote:
* glibc 2.1 upgrade
As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
of what to do with /dev/pts.
No there isn't, /dev
. Among other things, it would be an excellent
forum for constructing a step-by-step plan for the release, so that
no details are missed and everything happens in the right order.
Richard Braakman
installed or
don't have a chrooted slink setup so any help with getting GNOME slink
up-to-date would be greatly appreciated.
Do you mean make GNOME 1.0 available for slink, separately? It's far
too large a change to be part of a stable revision.
Richard Braakman
are stripped, so I don't have symbol information.
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that soname be split into a library
name and a major version, so that the dynamic linker can detect
incompatible versions of the same library. That would be a major change.
Richard Braakman
Joey Hess wrote:
Branden Robinson wrote:
xfree86 (3.3.2.3a-9) frozen unstable; urgency=medium
.
snip 189 line changelog
./xbase/changelog 3.3.2-4: 143
... (other binary packages with same 143 line changelog and same source)
./lintian/changelog 0.3.0: 139
I Will Try Harder. :-)
Richard
the XFree86 Project.
The license looks DFSG-ok, but I wonder if Red Hat really means to delegate
that power to XFree86.
Also: ... neither ... shall not ...
If I read this correctly, this paragraph requires us to use both these
names without permission :-)
Richard Braakman
left after
six years, when I was lured away by the Debian Project.
CONCLUSION
Overall, I expect I will be a project leader who listens a lot and
says little. I hope to speak up at just the right times.
Richard Braakman
left after
six years, when I was lured away by the Debian Project.
CONCLUSION
Overall, I expect I will be a project leader who listens a lot and
says little. I hope to speak up at just the right times.
Richard Braakman
a specific list of emacsen would be a disadvantage,
though. I bet there are a lot of obscure variations out there that we
wouldn't necessarily want to have in the main distribution. It would
be nice if the add-on packages worked on them anyway.
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in its
exit codes, and this was filed as a bug.
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package for slang1. Now that
we do, we have a source package for slang1 but no longer one for
slang0.99.38. This means another set of packages to recompile.
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for main, particularly since
mozilla is a real package and netscape is virtual.
Note that mozilla itself is listed for removal, because it won't run with
libc6 2.0.7u. I think it's likely that the bug is in libc6, though.
Richard Braakman
Adrian Bridgett wrote:
Is it my imagination or was someone working on ttyquake? It's just too cool
to miss Debian 2.1.
I was; but it was too difficult to get the keyboard handling just right
so I forgot about it. I can send you what I have, if you like.
Richard Braakman
; it was uploaded to experimental.
movemail
I don't know about this one.
x11amp-static
mp3.8hz
These were removed due to patent or license problems.
Richard Braakman
.
The perl_5.004.04.orig.tar.gz in Incoming does not have the right md5sum.
Fortunately there is a perl_5.004.04.orig.tar.gz in hamm which does, so
I installed that in slink just now. This means that the perl source package
will be wrong for a day or two, until the mirrors catch up.
Thanks,
Richard
been rebuilt -- the upgrade process
itself will break. People will be upgrading from hamm to slink when
we release it, and they will run into problems like update-inetd
breaking halfway through a mass upgrade.
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it was), and then add the text you got
from the author, and add a note that the Debian Project does not
believe that protocols are copyrightable in the first place.
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break all those packages. Isn't
there some way to create a smooth upgrade path?
Richard Braakman
numbers as an option.
Alternately, such ranges could be keyed to distributions. This bug
is fixed by version 1.5, but it only existed in unstable. It's
probably safe to assume that the earlier buggy versions are not going
to make it into stable. I think this method is less robust, though.
Richard
Vincent Renardias wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
Every three months (fixed date) we copy the current `unstable' into
`frozen'. At this point `stable', `frozen' and `unstable' should all
stay interoperable both in source and binary form.
This is still a major
Santiago Vila wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
Package: gcc
Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
23123 gcc creates lots of empty files in /tmp
[FIX] Install gcc 2.7.2.3-4.5, currently in Incoming.
No, the one that creates lots of empty files in /tmp
Martin Schulze wrote:
The problem is that the _preinst_ might use the programs useradd and
groupadd.
Why not do it in the postinst, at configure time? Then a normal
dependency is enough.
If the user or group does not exist on the system, dpkg will use the
numeric IDs instead.
Richard
netgod's
recent efforts at getting the sparc tree up to date, he uploaded
some 300 packages in one day.
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changes, but it seems that's going to take a while.
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Lintian would have to parse that in order to get a full list, and it
doesn't do that (yet).
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the only modifications one might possibly want to make to
uedit all involve the use of the rm utility, which works just
*fine* on sources and executables alike, I see no obstacle to
placing this significant program in the main distribution.
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of SPI by virtue of their status as developers. Is this
true? It would seem to depend on SPI's charter, not Debian's, and we
don't have that.
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-with-the-OS clause. (This closes a large loophole).
So if Motif is considered a standard part of the Red Hat OS, then
everyone *except* Red Hat can distribute such a program.
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. what to do?
Installing svgalib1 may help.
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of garbage, and
that /lib/ld-linux.so.2 in a particular position :-)
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Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
A question which comes to my curious mind... is there a way a program
running as root can ask the kernel things like do you support modules and
module versioning? or is the above script which hung my machine without
so much as an oops from 2.1.82 till 2.1.89 the only
I have made a list of overlaps between packages in hamm and packages
in bo, and tried to filter out the ones that are not problematic.
(For example, because they use diversions).
My scripts for this are not always accurate, they're a bit old and
creaky. Unfortunately, there are too many
if it has
this bug.
I recommend that you submit your mail as a bugreport for lftp.
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Adam P. Harris wrote:
Richard == Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[linking shared libraries against other libraries]
As far as I can tell, it does not save disk and memory space.
However, I am rather new at this. Feel free to correct me.
You are wrong. Shared libraries
This is a list of packages in the main distribution that need work to
be fully libc6-based. I base it on the Packages file at my local mirror,
so it may be a day or two out of date. If you have questions about why
a particular package is on the list, or if you think there is an error,
don't
because they depend on the Contents file
generated on the master archive, which does not include non-us.
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-=-
Change history:
Version 1998-01-09 (19 overlaps)
Removed entry for kdebase and xbase
? The runtime support packages would
have to go into contrib.
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dpkg to think that ppp
has overwritten all of ppp-pam.
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Dale Scheetz wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
Do we want all packages to include the Section and Priority fields?
Probably.
If so, then I think it is far more effective to change dpkg's default
behaviour so that it does include these fields, rather than requiring
This is a list of packages in the main distribution that need work to
be fully libc6-based. I base it on the Packages file at my local mirror,
so it may be a day or two out of date. If you have questions about why
a particular package is on the list, or if you think there is an error,
don't
the changelog and copyright
files named right in all packages)
- It will be one more thing that new maintainers can get wrong about
a package.
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more effective to change dpkg's default
behaviour so that it does include these fields, rather than requiring
an explicit flag -isp.
However, I don't know the history behind this. What is the reason for
not including Section and Priority by default?
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