Re: SAGE packages for Debian

2008-05-23 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Ondrej Certik wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Timothy G Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably a good plan, especially since the sandbox is apparently going to be eliminated eventually (and it sounds like arpack and delaunay are on the list of things

Re: SAGE packages for Debian

2008-05-14 Thread Timothy G Abbott
Yes, I realize there is not much time left. I'm also quite busy for the next week or two, after which point I should have time to work on this again. The precise release timeline is very helpful. I won't be able to reasonably maintain this much software in Debian in the long term, but I

Re: package for configuration - Some suggestions

2008-05-14 Thread Timothy G Abbott
You can make packages to do configuration, but there are tricky issues involved in making sure that the right thing happens when the packages you're configuring are upgraded. At MIT, we wrote a system of CDBS modules that automates a lot of the work involved in making configuration packages.

Re: SAGE packages for Debian

2008-05-07 Thread Timothy G Abbott
the python-scipy maintainers a note and see what they think. -Tim Abbott On Wed, 7 May 2008, Riku Voipio wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 02:44:04AM -0400, Timothy G Abbott wrote: Packages with no problems worse than missing man pages: python-arpack (from the scipy sandbox) python-delaunay

Re: SAGE packages for Debian

2008-05-07 Thread Timothy G Abbott
on the relevant bug report. Thanks for pointing it out. -Tim Abbott On Tue, 6 May 2008, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Timothy G Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080506 08:47]: singular [no soname] Oh, nice to see that the omalloc license issue is finally solved. The debian/copyright

SAGE packages for Debian

2008-05-06 Thread Timothy G Abbott
I've been working on packaging for Debian SAGE (http://sagemath.org), a large free mathematics software conglomeration that is competing with proprietary mathematical software systems such as Mathematica, Matlab, Maple, and Magma (Debian bug #455292). This has been a rather large effort

Re: SAGE packages for Debian

2008-05-06 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Tue, 6 May 2008, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: I was going to suggest setting up an Alioth project, but on closer look I see that the Sage Wiki page mentions that you don't want to use alioth just yet. Well, that text was written in November, and I think it was a good choice at the time. But

Debian Configuration Packaging System: motivation

2008-03-02 Thread Timothy G Abbott
Discussion on the technical details of using dpkg-divert for configuration seems to have died down. My basic summary of the discussion is (A) any system attempting to configure site defaults requires use of dpkg-divert on conffiles[1], and probably should use dpkg-divert on all configuration

Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System

2008-02-28 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: Timothy G Abbott writes (Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System): So, our goal is to provide our users with the same opportunities to override our configuration defaults as they would have had if Debian had been providing them instead. Using

Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System

2008-02-26 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Frank K??ster wrote: [...] 3) Scripts that are not marked as conffiles but which cannot be configured in any way other than by modifying the script. If those scripts live below /etc, they definitely should be marked as conffiles. If they live elsewhere, no package should

Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System

2008-02-26 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: Tim Abbott writes (Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System): applying dpkg-divert to configuration files. Yikes. At the moment, there are no choices for doing site configuration that are general enough to change arbitrary configuration options

Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System

2008-02-26 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: Timothy G Abbott writes (Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System): All of the important problems with our dpkg-divert based configuration package system that have been discussed in this forum are problems for any configuration mechanism other than

Re: Debian Configuration Packaging System

2008-02-25 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Frank K??ster wrote: Uh, you can dpkg-divert conffiles, but not generally configuration files, since many won't even be known to dpkg. I must admit I'm a bit sceptical about a proposal on configuration, written by someone who lets this important distinction slip by...

Debian Configuration Packaging System

2008-02-24 Thread Timothy G Abbott
Anders Kaseorg and I created a system of CDBS modules (which we've tentatively packaged as the config-package-dev package) for creating Debian configuration packages. By configuration packages, we mean packages that configure an existing Debian system by applying dpkg-divert to configuration