Scripsit Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the
stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian,
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
demon name for keyword if possible.
Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear
Am 18.12.03 um 11:05:36 schrieb Sven Luther:
That would be a funny naming scheme. That said, how would we then
differentiate the three BSD ports ? GNU/First one that shall not be
named and so one ?
Exactly:
Debian GNU/First one that shall not be named
Debian GNU/Next one that shall not be
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:15, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Anglican church is, in fact, the most likely among anyone except the
UUs to (eventually) decide that it's OK, for the same reasons that they
have (now) decided that it's OK to have gay clergy and formal recognition
of
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:10, David Palmer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supply all of the relevant, and none of the extraneous:-
Debian GNU/Free
Debian GNU/Net
Debian GNU/Open
I disagree. Debian GNU/Linux is free, it works well on the net, and it is
open.
I think that your naming suggestion
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 20:08, Michael Piefel wrote:
Am 18.12.03 um 11:05:36 schrieb Sven Luther:
That would be a funny naming scheme. That said, how would we then
differentiate the three BSD ports ? GNU/First one that shall not be
named and so one ?
Exactly:
Debian GNU/First one that
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sven That would be a funny naming scheme. That said, how would we then
Sven differentiate the three BSD ports ? GNU/First one that shall not be
Sven named and so one ?
Indeed !
GNU/First one that shall not be named
GNU/Next one that shall not be
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
... neither of the two above, who are pretty obviously losers (even though
they're certainly on very different sides; surprise, sometimes there's
more than two of 'em).
There's more than one actual difference between the
Momchil Velikov wrote:
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sven That would be a funny naming scheme. That said, how would we then
Sven differentiate the three BSD ports ? GNU/First one that shall not be
Sven named and so one ?
Indeed !
GNU/First one that shall not be named
GNU/Next one
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Patrick) wrote on 18.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:41AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
| On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote:
|
| Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what
| you hate.
|
| Ya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Baker) wrote on 17.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:25:11PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or
beliefs of someone you don't
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:15, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Anglican church is, in fact, the most likely among anyone except the
UUs to (eventually) decide that it's OK, for the same reasons that they
have (now) decided that it's OK to have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henning Makholm) wrote on 18.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Scripsit Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:30:57PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:15, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Anglican church is, in fact, the most likely among anyone except the
UUs to (eventually) decide that it's OK, for the same reasons that they
have (now) decided
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:43:27PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
The US is pretty adamant about separation of church and state.
Which is why the phrase In God We Trust is engraved or printed on all
the US currency. That's why the Pledge of Allegiance has the phrase,
Under God.. Yeah, adamant.
--
Chad
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:52:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Baker) wrote on 17.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Since you have no idea *what* civil rights I'm claiming are denied, your
claim that I'm just imagining this denial is... well, I'll just let it
stand on
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 05:21:23AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:48:31AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:15, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Anglican church is, in fact, the most likely among anyone except
the UUs to (eventually) decide that it's OK, for
This one time, at band camp, Tom said:
Y'all are going to bust a vein on this one.
So far, on *.debian.org, I've found a great many people who actively
hate Jesus, this german who apparently has familiar views on Jews (as
does frighteningly much of Europe), and a whole bunch of college
On Thu 12/18/03 08:43, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:43:27PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
The US is pretty adamant about separation of church and state.
Which is why the phrase In God We Trust is engraved or printed on all
the US currency. That's why the Pledge of Allegiance has
Adamant about the seperation of state and non-christian churches[0].
But, of course us weirdos[1] in california decided the pledge was
unconstitutional... of course I'm sure that was overturned[2].
No, not overturned. Waiting on appeal to the Supreme Court, which takes
its Own Sweet Time to do
What are the UUs?
Unitarian Universalists.
Possibly the most liberal church in existence. I think they're great.
;-) They don't require adherence to any doctrine (you can even be a UU
atheist; although it started out as a Christian group, that's now
optional). They're very big on social
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:25:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Adamant about the seperation of state and non-christian churches[0].
But, of course us weirdos[1] in california decided the pledge was
unconstitutional... of course I'm sure that was overturned[2].
No, not overturned. Waiting
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working
on Debian and stop trolling now?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:41AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote:
Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what
you hate.
Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like
this...
If I say I hate
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:53:26PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:43:29AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:43:27PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
The US is pretty adamant about separation of church and state.
Which is why the phrase In God We Trust is engraved or printed on all
the US currency. That's why the Pledge
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:02:29PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:43, Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The US is pretty adamant about separation of church and state.
Point to something specific, and we'll kick the fuckers out.
I along with many others are looking forward
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:20:46PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
Nathan Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you wanted Greek names, there are plenty of obscure nymphs, satyrs,
centaurs, etc. to choose from. Since the Greeks classified them as
neither evil spirits nor deities, many of them
Scripsit Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 'slander', if such it is (and I, obviously, don't consider it such)
is against the named set of churches, and those that follow their doctrinal
decrees
Claiming that Christians are against civil liberties is slander in my
book. You named, among other,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:50:48PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 'slander', if such it is (and I, obviously, don't consider it such)
is against the named set of churches, and those that follow their doctrinal
decrees
Claiming that Christians
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
demon name for keyword if possible.
Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
demon name for keyword if possible.
Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear of a
name increases fear for the thing itself. ;-p
IOW, lighten up,
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 12:26, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
demon name for keyword if possible.
Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear of a
name
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:54:28PM -0500, Stephen Depooter wrote:
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 12:26, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
demon name for keyword if possible.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
demon name for keyword if possible.
Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but fear
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:42:27AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
IOW, lighten up, people. Otherwise, we'll be referring to Debian
GNU/That Which Shall Not Be Named...
Nah, bullshit. I've heard enough racists use that kind of reasoning.
It's no big deal. Face it, you have to respect people.
And
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
And way out from Right Field...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
go back and count the # of christians are stupid statements
substitute any racial or ethnic group for christians
see how the statements
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
And way out from Right Field...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
go back and count the # of christians are stupid statements
substitute
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
And way out from Right Field...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
go back
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:16, Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
I wasn't thinking of you, but let's take a quote of yours and see which
of these statements is most applicable:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics.
Godwin.
Copout.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 05:16:18PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
I wasn't thinking of you, but let's take a quote of yours and see which
of these statements is most applicable:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200312/msg01512.html:
(religious fanatics - the one group that
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 00:21, Nunya wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
And way out from Right Field...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
go back and count the # of christians are stupid statements
substitute any racial or
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote:
Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what
you hate.
Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like
this...
If I say I hate Adolf Hitler and his cabinet, is that practising hate
speech?
Scott
--
Have
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or
beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to
an eternity of suffering as hate speech (and I generally do), I'm on the
catching end of
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:25:11PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or
beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to
an eternity of suffering as hate
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the
large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed
religions, which form a significantly more than majority share of the
population of the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:41AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
| On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote:
|
| Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what
| you hate.
|
| Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like
| this...
|
| If I
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics.
Godwin.
Copout.
Yes, it is too bad he is copping (sp) out on discussing all sorts of
things immediately
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:43, Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the
large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed
religions, which form a
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the
stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Baptist, and
Mormon authorities (the latter not technically being considered a sect
[...]
Since you have no
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working
on Debian and stop trolling now?
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the
stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Baptist, and
Mormon authorities (the latter
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working
on Debian and stop trolling now?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:20:32AM -0800, Nunya [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard
to say:
Sounds a lot like a plot in very early issues of 1980s of Hellblazer, a
comic which by the way is being made into a movie with Keanu Reeves (it's
being filmed as we speak).
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:51:47 -0800, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well, it depends on what mythology you're working from. In the
Christian mythology, which is probably the dominant context for
evaluating that sort of question,
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:29:15PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 06:30, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:51:47 -0800, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well, it depends on what mythology you're working from. In the
Christian mythology, which is probably the dominant context for
evaluating that sort of question,
On
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