Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-18 Thread matthias . hofer
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.12.2003 19:15:43: now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package (MD5sum). so what I like to

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-18 Thread Steve Greenland
On 18-Dec-03, 02:43 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you want to tell us that the absence of the md5sums-files (those which contain md5sums for every file in the package, and they _are_ absent for a number of packages) should not be considered a bug, even if debsums complains about this?

Bug#223772: Antwort: Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.12.2003 19:15:43: now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package

Bug#223772: Antwort: Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread werner . thoeni
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.12.2003 19:15:43: now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package (MD5sum). so what I like to say is,

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: goswin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 Severity: normal Tags: security Every package has a md5sum in the Package file. the answer is not

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-17 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: --cut-- i don't understand your comment above. why is the md5sums file useless and space wasting especially in terms of security? until now, I was of the opinion, that the md5sum gives me the guarantee that a debian package is

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-16 Thread Thomas Viehmann
The md5sum files inside the package as they are now can be generated at install time by anyone who wishes to have them. Security wise they are useless and for accidental corruption they are redundant (since they can be generated at install time). Thus they just waste space and bandwith. A

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-16 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The md5sum files inside the package as they are now can be generated at install time by anyone who wishes to have them. Security wise they are useless and for accidental corruption they are redundant (since they can be generated at install time).

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Thomas Viehmann
My point exactly, even though I tried to make it through irony. Which enhances your point for those who understand but might get your voice ignored for those who don't. Maybe I'm just overcautious because I've just experienced a bad case of vocal minority (1.5%) get's their way because they're

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:30:46PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Bruno Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031213 19:50]: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Goswin von Brederlow in [EMAIL PROTECTED] The md5sum files inside the package as they are now can be generated at install time by anyone who wishes to have them. Security wise they are useless and for accidental corruption they are redundant (since they can be generated at install time).

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Lucas Albers
Re: Goswin von Brederlow in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not set it so they are generated when a package is created? Am I understanding correctly? And then they could b gpg signed by the developer??? This adds one more check to the security of the system. I used debsums just a few days to determine if a

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread werner . thoeni
goswin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 Severity: normal Tags: security Every package has a md5sum in the Package file. the answer is not correct. pls see as an example the

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] why is the md5sums file useless and space wasting especially in terms of security? until now, I was of the opinion, that the md5sum gives me the guarantee that a debian package is not penetrated before installation No, that's what the checksum of the entire .deb

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Bruno Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031213 19:50]: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the package. Due to its uselessness the existance is rather a bug than its omission. Please close this bug, read the

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:30:46PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Bruno Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031213 19:50]: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the package. Due to its uselessness the existance is

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:24:40PM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: David Weinehall wrote: And documentation? Hell, use the source-code. Source code? Who needs source code? Seriously: I've had some problems with file system corruption every now and then. The md5sums are a nice way to check

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread Thomas Viehmann
David Weinehall wrote: And documentation? Hell, use the source-code. Source code? Who needs source code? Seriously: I've had some problems with file system corruption every now and then. The md5sums are a nice way to check whether the basic binaries on the disk are still what I'd like them to

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-13 Thread Bruno Rodrigues
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 Severity: normal Tags: security Every package has a md5sum in the Package file. Some packages have a

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-12 Thread werner . thoeni
Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 Severity: normal Tags: security -- System Information Debian Release: 3.0 Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux donald 2.4.18-xfs-1.1 #1 Tue Apr 8 09:10:07 CEST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=C,

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 Severity: normal Tags: security Every package has a md5sum in the Package file. Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the

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