Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
t...@debian.org wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: with this constant bickering and sniping. If you must do it, start the GR and see how that goes. I even offer to second it just to help get Can you help formulate? I do not feel my English skills are up to that. I'm sorry, I don't really have time to

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org wrote: - existing installations of older (pre-jessie) Debian may be upgraded to our new standard init system systemd, but only after the user has been suitably warned, e.g. via a debconf propmpt at priority

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 09, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: I think that it would be valuable for our users to keep the non-default init system working on Jessie for those who do neither intend nor need to switch to systemd. I suggest less thinking and more coding then, because an updated

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-09 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Marco d'Itri (m...@linux.it): On Jul 09, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: I think that it would be valuable for our users to keep the non-default init system working on Jessie for those who do neither intend nor need to switch to systemd. I suggest less thinking and more

Re: GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/04/2014 10:28 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: 4) all init systems currently in Debian are supported in jessie; We don't need a GR to support this option. Of course, all init systems are supported, to the best of our efforts, and I don't see why someone would refuse a patch. I haven't seen such

GR - collecting proposals (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Steve McIntyre wrote: with this constant bickering and sniping. If you must do it, start the GR and see how that goes. I even offer to second it just to help get Can you help formulate? I do not feel my English skills are up to that. Also, what options do we need? 1) systemd is the only init