Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-30 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:22:52AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Full build logs are available at http://people.debian.org/~sesse/enriched-chroot/ -- look at the bottom to find the differences. Note that these builds

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-30 Thread Paul Wise
On 7/30/07, Filippo Giunchedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to use wdiff to diff package informations? This comes handy when comparing dependencies for example. You are looking for the debdiff program. Feed it the .debs or .changes. There is also interdiff for the .diff.gz -- bye,

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:22:52AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] kptc (U) phaseshift (U) qsstv (U) ucblogo verilog The first 4 of these are all extra dependencies on libdnet, which all come from AC_PATH_XTRA in

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the libraries have different names then there should be --with/--without switches possible for configure. (I'm also upstream for several of these packages.) I don't know of any Kerberos software,

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:31:57AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] knetworkmanager kpowersave These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the build fails completely. Define fails completely. The build creates a .deb, it just loses a

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Full build logs are available at http://people.debian.org/~sesse/enriched-chroot/ -- look at the bottom to find the differences. Note that these builds were made some time ago, so they might not be 100% up-to-date -- I will

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Friday 20 July 2007 00:31, Michael Biebl wrote: These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the build fails completely. unsermake though is scheduled/requested to be removed [1]. So please, don't file bugs for these two packages or better, wait until unsermake has

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Steinar H. Gunderson schrieb: On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:31:57AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] knetworkmanager kpowersave These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the build fails completely. Define fails completely. The build

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:02:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Now, I'm willing to lead the way for Kerberos packages going forward, I guess, if I can figure out a good way to do that, but I don't know how that configure logic would even work or what those --with flags would look like. The

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ideally everything should use libgssapi2 (or some other mechglue implementation) and nothing should build directly aginst the Kerberos-specific GSSAPI implementations. Your statement is true for software that really doesn't care what GSS-API mechanism it

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know of any Kerberos software, among dozens of packages, that works this way. This simply isn't how multiple Kerberos implementations have ever been handled; they all just check for Heimdal and MIT

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070720 10:22]: [..] Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht Could it be, that you are now filtering to strict? I could swear, that when I looked at the list yesterday I saw fillets-ng which had a new lib according to the log... You still had

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 17:47 schrieb Russ Allbery: So in addition to having a --with-krb5 flag specifying the paths to the libraries, I also need to add a --without-* flag for every Kerberos implementation that I support which disables probing for that implementation? That's kind of lame,

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 06:50:03PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: Could it be, that you are now filtering to strict? I could swear, that when I looked at the list yesterday I saw fillets-ng which had a new lib according to the log... It seems fillets-ng was never completely built in the

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/07/07 at 10:22 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Full build logs are available at http://people.debian.org/~sesse/enriched-chroot/ -- look at the bottom to find the differences. Note that these builds were made

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 17:47 schrieb Russ Allbery: So in addition to having a --with-krb5 flag specifying the paths to the libraries, I also need to add a --without-* flag for every Kerberos implementation that I support which disables probing for

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Michael Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] kbibtex Maybe I did not get the point, but to me the diff in the dependencies just reflects the time between the two compared builds: === START OF kbibtex_0.1.5-5_amd64.deb

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:13:26 +0200 Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a few days, I'll start filing bugs against packages that build unpredictably when extra build-dependencies are present. (More precisely, packages where the dependency or file list differ between a clean sid

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:09:49 +0100 Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:13:26 +0200 Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a few days, I'll start filing bugs against packages that build unpredictably when extra build-dependencies are present. (More

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:09:49AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: As other have noted, the logs are in error. I've checked the log for deb-gview in meld and the only difference in the two Depends line is: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1) zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1) That is NOT a bug!!! Ouch. It seems at

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] sident Hm. I don't know best to fix this. The problem is that there's now a libgssapi2 package which provides a generic GSSAPI layer but no actual implementation.

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:53:50 +0200 Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:09:49AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: As other have noted, the logs are in error. I've checked the log for deb-gview in meld and the only difference in the two Depends line is: zlib1g

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the libraries have different names then there should be --with/--without switches possible for configure. (I'm also upstream for several of these packages.) I don't know of any Kerberos software, among dozens of packages, that works this way.

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 06:37:55PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: Didn't mean to sound accusatory - more surprised. It was strange that one package is commonly affected and others that also changed versions were not. Maybe something to do with pattern matching failing when a version includes dfsg

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Steinar H. Gunderson schrieb: Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] knetworkmanager kpowersave These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the build fails completely. unsermake though is scheduled/requested to be removed [1]. So please, don't file bugs for these two

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl schrieb: Steinar H. Gunderson schrieb: Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] knetworkmanager kpowersave These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the build fails completely. unsermake though is scheduled/requested to be removed [1]. So please,

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 06:37:55PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: Didn't mean to sound accusatory - more surprised. It was strange that one package is commonly affected and others that also changed versions were not. Maybe something to do with pattern matching failing when a version includes

Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
(I already wrote this mail once, but have no idea where it went. Apologies if it comes out twice.) In a few days, I'll start filing bugs against packages that build unpredictably when extra build-dependencies are present. (More precisely, packages where the dependency or file list differ between

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] sident Hm. I don't know best to fix this. The problem is that there's now a libgssapi2 package which provides a generic GSSAPI layer but no actual implementation. S/Ident supports building against any GSSAPI