On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 01:34:42PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 19 février 2010 à 13:02 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
The fact that Gnome doesn't show the Debian menu (thereby requiring me
to either find that mythical option somewhere which would enable it, or
to manually
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:32:39AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 08:54 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
IMHO the best solution to this (unavoidable) problem is to enable a
configuration feature controled by some kind of priority tag in the
desktop files. This
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:30:01PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
The layout sucks: a good menu is hard to do because it must not be too
deep (too many clicks/movements to reach an application) nor too crowded
(too many applications in one submenu). The Debian menu is an
achievement in failure
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:54:43PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 13:10 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
The problem is not to implement this; it already exists. The problem is
that maintainers don???t fill these fields properly. I mean, even KDE
developers
Le vendredi 19 février 2010 à 13:02 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
The fact that Gnome doesn't show the Debian menu (thereby requiring me
to either find that mythical option somewhere which would enable it, or
to manually start the application) is one of the reasons I'm not using
gnome.
You
Le mardi 16 février 2010 à 08:15 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
to achieve this reasonnable default, the maintainers of programs with a menu
entry need some instructions whether they should hide their entry in the major
desktop managers like GNOME, KDE and Xfce.
Add the relevant snippets to
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 08:54 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
Personally, I prefer the Debian menu because I can find here all
software on my machine. I use the menu the find a application.
Applications I often use have a icon, so the Gnome selection is useless
for me. I understand
[Josselin Mouette]
The problem is not to implement this; it already exists. The problem
is that maintainers don’t fill these fields properly. I mean, even
KDE developers don’t.
Is there some documentation on the web on how to fill inn these fields
properly?
Certainly not. The original menu
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 10:17 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
[Josselin Mouette]
The problem is not to implement this; it already exists. The problem
is that maintainers don’t fill these fields properly. I mean, even
KDE developers don’t.
Is there some documentation on the web on
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:32:39AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
IMHO the best solution to this (unavoidable) problem is to enable a
configuration feature controled by some kind of priority tag in the
desktop files. This should say something like display me on Gnome,
display me on KDE,
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 13:10 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
The problem is not to implement this; it already exists. The problem is
that maintainers don???t fill these fields properly. I mean, even KDE
developers don???t.
So we need to fire up reportbug, right?
Hint: filing bugs
I demand that Josselin Mouette may or may not have written...
[snip]
The layout sucks: a good menu is hard to do because it must not be too deep
(too many clicks/movements to reach an application) nor too crowded (too
many applications in one submenu). The Debian menu is an achievement in
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 13:40 +, Darren Salt a écrit :
[snip]
The layout sucks: a good menu is hard to do because it must not be too deep
(too many clicks/movements to reach an application) nor too crowded (too
many applications in one submenu). The Debian menu is an achievement in
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 15:13 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 13:40 +, Darren Salt a écrit :
[snip]
The layout sucks: a good menu is hard to do because it must not be too
deep
(too many clicks/movements to reach an application) nor too crowded (too
many
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:54:43PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
So we need to fire up reportbug, right?
Hint: filing bugs doesn???t guarantee they will be fixed.
H, yes. Thanks for the reminder. :-(
No I mean a simple on of switch between Show all entries / Show
reduced set of
I demand that Josselin Mouette may or may not have written...
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 13:40 +, Darren Salt a écrit :
[snip]
The layout sucks: a good menu is hard to do because it must not be too
deep (too many clicks/movements to reach an application) nor too
crowded (too many
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Darren Salt
li...@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk wrote:
The freedesktop.org specification does not impose a layout. You are
probably talking about the KDE, GNOME or Xfce menu.
Hmm? I was under the impression that they all included the same
auto-generated
Le Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:54:43PM +0100, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
No one needs a menu with 200 applications, because such a menu is not usable.
What users need is a reasonable default selection and the ability to re-add
applications that are hidden by default.
Hi Josselin,
to achieve
[Frank Küster]
By the way, one thing you'll learn is to use terms that everyone
understands without problems, and that not everyone is using a
Desktop envirnoment. In my window manager, there's only one menu,
and that's the Debian one.
If we are to believe
URL:
* Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com [100214 10:45]:
If we are to believe
URL: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/MenuMigrationToXDG ,
it is possible to migrate from Debian menu files to XDG desktop files
and still get working and useful menus for the following window
managers:
On 14/02/2010 10:44, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Personally, I believe this is a good idea, as the current situation
with two partly integrated menu systems is confusing for both
maintainers and users.
For what I remember, the problem is not technical (the format of entry
menu). As said before,
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 09:15:36PM +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
The main objection is that gnome/kde maintainers do not want to see
all installed applications in their FreeDesktop menu.
...
Personally, I prefer the Debian menu because I can find here all
software on my machine. I use the
Andreas Marschke xxtj...@googlemail.com wrote:
Personally I think we should have gotten rid of the Debian menu years
ago, I don't think my opinion is shared by many people in Debian
though.
It is truely kind of doubled effort to have the debian menu extra to the
actual
menu. The
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Frank Küster fr...@debian.org wrote:
Please read the archives. That has been discussed over and over. By the
way, one thing you'll learn is to use terms that everyone understands
without problems, and that not everyone is using a Desktop
envirnoment. In my
Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 08:29 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
LXDE is a new desktop I guess the maintainers have not yet had time to
add support for the Debian menu (see #517190 for more). Here is a
thread about it too:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/02/thrd2.html#00809
Since
Personally I think we should have gotten rid of the Debian menu years
ago, I don't think my opinion is shared by many people in Debian
though.
It is truely kind of doubled effort to have the debian menu extra to the actual
menu. The question is who will step forward and propose the removal?
I demand that Andreas Marschke may or may not have written...
Personally I think we should have gotten rid of the Debian menu years
ago, I don't think my opinion is shared by many people in Debian though.
It is truly kind of doubled effort to have the debian menu extra to the
actual menu.
On Tue, Dec 08 2009, Andreas Marschke wrote:
Personally I think we should have gotten rid of the Debian menu years
ago, I don't think my opinion is shared by many people in Debian
though.
It is truely kind of doubled effort to have the debian menu extra to
the actual menu. The question is
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
Whoever does the work to implement the replacement menu
infrastructure in all the places that the Debian menu is
implemented. And also helps flush out all the entries missing from the
xdg menu which are in the Debian one.
I think this
Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 11:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Whoever does the work to implement the replacement menu
infrastructure in all the places that the Debian menu is
implemented. And also helps flush out all the entries missing from the
xdg menu which are in the Debian one.
Am Montag 07 Dezember 2009 04:35:30 schrieb Paul Wise:
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Andreas Marschke xxtj...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I'm hereby proposing an additional Category for this list of such
applications called Multimedia. This defines clearer what they are.
Sounds reasonable to
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Andreas Marschke
xxtj...@googlemail.com wrote:
I haven't had the freedesktop.org in mind at the time of writing it but yes it
is infact a reason to do this as well.
The bug is filed and should be open for broader discussion soon.
You should have chosen
Hi,
I was pointed to
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu-policy/ch2.html
as I had an issue with an application categorized as Sound though it did video
and pictures, too.
I found that there was no entry for Multimedia but for Applications/Sound and
Applications/Video which is
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Andreas Marschke xxtj...@googlemail.com wrote:
I'm hereby proposing an additional Category for this list of such applications
called Multimedia. This defines clearer what they are.
Sounds reasonable to me, this would bring the Debian menu closer to
the
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