Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Hood wrote: Several people said that they didn't want Debian documentation to be full of political rants. They would like to reserve the right to delete the parts they don't like from the manuals they package. But what is this but censorship? And how is censorship compatible with

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:02:47PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: While I don't regard the DFSG as already applying to documentation, the spirit of it is naturally extended to cover documentation. I would suggest that the GFDL is a reasonable license to use for free documentation --- free as in

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread Thomas Hood
Joey Hess wrote: Protecting the freedom of this form of speech requires a somewhat different strategy from the one used to protect the freedom to copy source code. Freedom of software and freedom of speech are two entirely different animals, and attempting to confuse them as you do [...]

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: Richard Braakman wrote: What you're advocating is the evil twin of censorship, namely forced speech. I don't think that placing restrictions on an otherwise completely liberal license amounts to using any kind of force, but

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:26:39 +0300, Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:02:47PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: While I don't regard the DFSG as already applying to documentation, the spirit of it is naturally extended to cover documentation. I would suggest

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread Craig Dickson
begin Gustavo Noronha Silva quotation: Em Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:26:39 +0300, Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: If the GFDL were a free to use and modify license, then we would not be having this discussion. The problem is that the GFDL specifies parts that we are _not_ free

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-09 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:22:07PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: indeed, I would not like to see people modifying my points of view and redistributing saying that's what I think, you see So if I rewrite charsets (7) (which I'm considering), I should make sure that it's under an invariant

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-08 Thread Thomas Hood
I asked: Were there any other important debates about the GFDL that should be read? To answer my own question: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200112/msg7.html Off to read about 100 messages ... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:17:28PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: I asked: Were there any other important debates about the GFDL that should be read? To answer my own question: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200112/msg7.html Off to read about 100 messages ...

Re: Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-08 Thread Thomas Hood
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200112/msg7.html Off to read about 100 messages ... ... and a tedious experience it was. I would like to make the following points which I didn't see mentioned in the hundreds of messages (many of them snipes and flames). 1.

Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-07 Thread Thomas Hood
For those interested in the status of the GNU Free Documentation License issue: Please read the interesting thread The old DFSG-lemma again on debian-legal from Nov. 2001. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200111/msg6.html In the thread, Branden Robinson expressed