Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 06:02:59AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: For many users of other bug tracking systems such as bugzilla, the meaning of priority vs severity is totally unclear. I don't think that it would be a good idea to impose such a thing to all packages by default. Well, you don't

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:58:49AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: It almost sounds like you want a user setable severity-like field. That could be implemented, but the problem is that it's far less flexible than usertags because it would only have a single value. (Note that I did not ask for

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-26 Thread Tristan Seligmann
* Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-26 12:00:25 +0100]: Yes, it would be less flexible, but what meaning has a priority field with multiple values? I think that such a field would be meaningful only to sort upon it, and go looking for sorting of multiple valued fields seems to be

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I think that such a field would be meaningful only to sort upon it, and go looking for sorting of multiple valued fields seems to be looking for trouble to me. Since tags don't sort, they segregate, you just choose based on the first one that

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-26 Thread jidanni
DN don't have the time (or often the ability) to go back and DN reproduce the hundreds of bugs Yes. Never mind the old bugs then. Just try to reproduce new bugs as they come in, before they become old bugs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:31:32PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: Here are some things that occur to me quickly: I'll be just pointing to existing tools I'm aware of that are related to your points. People probably already know all of them, but since I'm a bit surprised to not having them mentioned

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 05:19:50PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: Now, if I could run an 'apt-get source -t unstable foo' and create my patch against the resulting source package, and be sure that the maintainer won't reject it on the grounds of the patch not being against the head (or latest,

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 01:03:01PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: If there are sets of usertags which are in common use by a reasonable number of diverse packages, and are something that would normally be put on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] user (that is to say, make them visible by default) then file a

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 01:03:01PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: If there are sets of usertags which are in common use by a reasonable number of diverse packages, and are something that would normally be put on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] user (that is

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-24 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 24/02/08 at 20:41 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 01:03:01PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: If there are sets of usertags which are in common use by a reasonable number of diverse packages, and are something that would normally be put on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] user

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:19:14PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:31:32PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: Excellent points made by both of you. Here are some things that occur to me quickly: 1) Large projects using $DVCS and making it easy for people that aren't

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:51:42AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 21 février 2008 à 23:31 -0600, John Goerzen a écrit : 5) A way of sorting bugs by hack on this first. Our priorities are not necessarily this way. For instance, we may have a wishlist bug to package the new

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 06:50:00AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure that somebody looks at new bugs. As days pass, the test conditions in the report e.g., URLs, deteriorate. As weeks pass, the user may have removed the package for another. As months pass, the user may no longer be

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, David Nusinow wrote: If those who make heavy use of usertags could get together and form some sort of consensus standard so that outsiders to the team could find out common information without having to hunt down the team's specific documentation, it'd help enormously. If

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 22 février 2008 à 08:33 -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit : Now, if I could run an 'apt-get source -t unstable foo' and create my patch against the resulting source package, and be sure that the maintainer won't reject it on the grounds of the patch not being against the head (or

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-22 Thread Roland Mas
Roberto C. Sánchez, 2008-02-22 08:33:17 -0500 : [...] Now, if I could run an 'apt-get source -t unstable foo' and create my patch against the resulting source package, and be sure that the maintainer won't reject it on the grounds of the patch not being against the head (or latest, or

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-22 Thread jidanni
Be sure that somebody looks at new bugs. As days pass, the test conditions in the report e.g., URLs, deteriorate. As weeks pass, the user may have removed the package for another. As months pass, the user may no longer be working on related projects. As years pass, the user himself might have

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-22 Thread Russ Allbery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Be sure that somebody looks at new bugs. The fundamental problem here that people are trying to express is that, given our absence of paid staff who are willing to do anything they're assigned to do, it is impossible to be sure that anyone in Debian does any specific

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 05:19:50PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez, 2008-02-22 08:33:17 -0500 : [...] Now, if I could run an 'apt-get source -t unstable foo' and create my patch against the resulting source package, and be sure that the maintainer won't reject it on the

Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread John Goerzen
[ subject changed ] On Thursday 21 February 2008 8:22:49 pm Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, David Nusinow wrote: We could deal with this problem if we were better at training and recruiting people to work on such things. We've been lucky in the XSF lately in getting enough hands

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style mass tirage of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:31:32PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: Excellent points made by both of you. Here are some things that occur to me quickly: 1) Large projects using $DVCS and making it easy for people that aren't familiar with $DVCS to learn how to participate in that project. Here