Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-26 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 08:50:21AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2022 20:21:03 +0200, David Kalnischkies > wrote: > >apt actually marks dependencies > >of packages in section metapackages as manually installed if the > >metapackage is removed due to the removal of one of its

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 06:47:19PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > > > > I support many people with Debian, what I often see is that they > > > > > remove a > > > > > package, and then also the meta-package is removed. And later all > > > > > dependencies of the meta-package are removed by

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-26 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 03:44:29PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 03:28:21PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > > > I support many people with Debian, what I often see is that they remove > > > > a > > > > package, and then also the meta-package is removed. And later

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 03:28:21PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > > I support many people with Debian, what I often see is that they remove a > > > package, and then also the meta-package is removed. And later all > > > dependencies of the meta-package are removed by accident. > > Not to

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 08:21:03PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > I support many people with Debian, what I often see is that they remove a > > package, and then also the meta-package is removed. And later all > > dependencies of the meta-package are removed by accident. > > Not to rain on

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 25 May 2022 20:21:03 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: >apt actually marks dependencies >of packages in section metapackages as manually installed if the >metapackage is removed due to the removal of one of its dependencies >– but doesn't if you decide to remove the metapackage explicitly.

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-25 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hello David and others, Op 25-05-2022 om 20:30 schreef David Kalnischkies: On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:33:22AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: I support many people with Debian, what I often see is that they remove a package, and then also the meta-package is removed. And later all dependencies

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-25 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 25/05/2022 10:33, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: Op 23-05-2022 om 13:00 schreef Fabio Fantoni: Il 23/05/2022 01:42, Glauber Baldez ha scritto: Some considerations for project improvement: 1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-25 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:33:22AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > I support many people with Debian, what I often see is that they remove a > package, and then also the meta-package is removed. And later all > dependencies of the meta-package are removed by accident. Not to rain on your

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-25 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 23-05-2022 om 13:00 schreef Fabio Fantoni: Il 23/05/2022 01:42, Glauber Baldez ha scritto: Some considerations for project improvement: 1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media players, games and office applications. 2. Debian

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-23 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 23/05/2022 01:42, Glauber Baldez ha scritto: Some considerations for project improvement: 1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media players, games and office applications. 2. Debian should follow Doug Gwyn's words in stating that

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-22 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Glauber Baldez writes: > I repeat again: desktop environment and desktop applications are not > the same thing, so they shouldn't be treated as such either. Good point. I have Evolution and LibreOffice installed for several years without actually using them. And these packages have mammoth

Project Improvements

2022-05-22 Thread Glauber Baldez
Some considerations for project improvement: 1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media players, games and office applications. 2. Debian should follow Doug Gwyn's words in stating that Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing