Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-10-09 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Russ, Thank you for working on this. On Sat 09 Sep 2023 at 08:35pm -07, Russ Allbery wrote: > In order to structure the discussion and prod people into thinking about > the implications, I will make the following straw man proposal. This is > what I would do if the decision was entirely

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-13 Thread Benjamin Drung
On Sat, 2023-09-09 at 20:35 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they meet all of the > following criteria: > > * The license is DFSG-free. > * Exactly the same license wording is used by all works covered by it. > * The license applies

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Russ Allbery (2023-09-10 21:41:59) > Jeremy Stanley writes: > > > I'm surprised, for example, by the absence of the ISC license given that > > not only ISC's software but much of that originating from the OpenBSD > > ecosystem uses it. My personal software projects also use the ISC > >

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Timo Röhling
* Russ Allbery [2023-09-10 09:16]: In order to structure the discussion and prod people into thinking about the implications, I will make the following straw man proposal. This is what I would do if the decision was entirely up to me: Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Jeremy Stanley writes: > I'm surprised, for example, by the absence of the ISC license given that > not only ISC's software but much of that originating from the OpenBSD > ecosystem uses it. My personal software projects also use the ISC > license. Are you aggregating the "License:" field in

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2023-09-09 20:35:27 -0700 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > Finally, as promised, here is the count of source packages in > unstable that use the set of licenses that I taught my script to > look for. This is likely not accurate; the script uses a bunch of > heuristics and guesswork. [...]

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Russ Allbery (2023-09-10 18:16:07) > Russ Allbery writes: > > > In order to structure the discussion and prod people into thinking about > > the implications, I will make the following straw man proposal. This is > > what I would do if the decision was entirely up to me: > > >

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > In order to structure the discussion and prod people into thinking about > the implications, I will make the following straw man proposal. This is > what I would do if the decision was entirely up to me: > Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they meet all

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Quoting Hideki Yamane (2023-09-10 11:00:07) >> Hmm, how about providing license-common package and that depends on >> "license-common-list", and ISO image provides both, then? It would be >> no regressions. I do wonder why we've never done this. Does anyone know?

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 04:36, Russ Allbery wrote: > Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they meet all of the > following criteria: > > * The license is DFSG-free. > * Exactly the same license wording is used by all works covered by it. > * The license applies to

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Hideki Yamane (2023-09-10 11:00:07) > On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 22:41:48 -0700 > Russ Allbery wrote: > > > How about just pointing SPDX licenses URL for whole license text and > > > lists DFSG-free licenses from that? (but yes, we should adjust short > > > name of licenses for DEP-5 and SPDX

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 10, Enrico Zini wrote: > I like this. I'd say that even if a license is shorter than 25 lines I'd > appreciate to be able to link to it instead of copypasting it. Me too. > I like to be able to fill the license field with a value, after checking > that the upstream license didn't diverge

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-10 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 22:41:48 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > > How about just pointing SPDX licenses URL for whole license text and > > lists DFSG-free licenses from that? (but yes, we should adjust short > > name of licenses for DEP-5 and SPDX for it). > > Can we do this legally? If we can, it

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Hideki Yamane writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they meet all of the >> following criteria: > How about just pointing SPDX licenses URL for whole license text and > lists DFSG-free licenses from that? (but yes, we should adjust short >

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-09 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, Sep 09, 2023 at 08:35:27PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they meet all of the > following criteria: > > * The license is DFSG-free. > * Exactly the same license wording is used by all works covered by it. > * The license

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 20:35:27 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > Licenses will be included in common-licenses if they meet all of the > following criteria: How about just pointing SPDX licenses URL for whole license text and lists DFSG-free licenses from that? (but yes, we should adjust short

Re: What licenses should be included in /usr/share/common-licenses?

2023-09-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Russ Allbery (2023-09-10 05:35:27) > In order to structure the discussion and prod people into thinking about > the implications, I will make the following straw man proposal. This is > what I would do if the decision was entirely up to me: > > Licenses will be included in