Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-25 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, Jeroen. Thank you very much for your reply. On May 23 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: There is the MIA effort, led by myself, that does periodically look for activity for all maintainers and inquire if activity is lacking. That's nice to know. I regard this as a QA task that the

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 12:55:30AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote: I have seen cases of maintainers that have packages with may bug reports, without any indication of an intent to fix them. Exactly. It is a frustration to have a bug filed for, say, almost one year (Lack of time during one

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 12:55:30AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote: On May 22 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Rog?rio Brito wrote: In my very humble and uninformed opinion, some maintainers should really give up maintaining their packages or should try to get other people as co-maintainers,

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 12:32, Jeroen van Wolffelaar escribió: There is the MIA effort, led by myself, that does periodically look for activity for all maintainers and inquire if activity is lacking. However, this takes a bit of time, and also, it does benefit to have tips about specific

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Cesar Martinez Izquierdo] Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to accept a co-maintainer or to orphan the package. I think a lot of maintainers would be happy to accept a co-maintainer

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:32:55AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: I do plan to start up a more structural package checking effort after Sarge is released, hopefully addressing at least part of your concerns. Bring back the maintainer ping! Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to accept a co-maintainer or to orphan the package. A lot of bugs are

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:24, Hamish Moffatt escribió: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to accept a

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, May 23, 2005 12:56, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to accept a co-maintainer or to orphan the package. I'd like to see it differently:

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 04:30:49PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:24, Hamish Moffatt escribió: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all bugs, not

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 17:09, Hamish Moffatt escribió: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 04:30:49PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:24, Hamish Moffatt escribió: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: Remember that Debian

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:20, Thijs Kinkhorst escribió: On Mon, May 23, 2005 12:56, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to accept a co-maintainer or to

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:14:45PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: I was refering to bugs without any activity (ignored bugs). If you mean bugs with no response ever rather than bugs that have just not seen any reponse recently saying something like no response rather than no activity

Re: Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-23 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 23:22, Mark Brown escribió: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:14:45PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: I was refering to bugs without any activity (ignored bugs). If you mean bugs with no response ever rather than bugs that have just not seen any reponse recently saying

Regarding unresponsive Debian maintainers (was: Re: Open-Source environments for Java)

2005-05-22 Thread Rogério Brito
On May 22 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Rogério Brito wrote: In my very humble and uninformed opinion, some maintainers should really give up maintaining their packages or should try to get other people as co-maintainers, if they lack the time to fix their packages. :-( If they