Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-16 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Branden, On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 10:32:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Hmm. I am using the following patch, which I got from slashdot of all places: --- xc/config/makedepend/cppsetup.c.origSun Mar 12 15:47:41 2000 +++ xc/config/makedepend/cppsetup.c Sun Mar 12

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-14 Thread Steve Greenland
On 13-Mar-00, 16:55 (CST), Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often find myself in the position when I use X libraries (Xt mostly) built by myself with some changes to allow debugging of my Xt widgets. I install new libs and headers in another directory and -I/this/new/dir and

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-14 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Steve Greenland wrote: Why not? Have you read the compiler/linker docs? Adding -I/some/dir/inc and -L/some/dir/lib causes those directories to be searched *before* the default directories. I don't have an opinion about where the X stuff should go, but the above argument

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread markm
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:16:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [snip] [1] The makedepend program gets stuck in an infinite loop when attempting to generate dependencies in xc/programs/xterm. One of Tom Dickey's patches, #130 or #131, is probably the culprit since I think these are the

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Edward Betts
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in case it was unclear in my previous mail, I have no plans to support full versions of XFree86 3.3.x and 4.x in the same Debian release. By the time official 4.0 .debs are ready, it is my hope that the legacy chipsets currently only supported in

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Romosan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:16:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [snip] [1] The makedepend program gets stuck in an infinite loop when attempting to generate dependencies in xc/programs/xterm. One of Tom Dickey's patches, #130 or #131, is probably the culprit

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 07:06:19PM -0800, Alex Romosan wrote: the problem is with curses.h in libncurses5-dev. it redefines ERR and as such it conflicts with the definition from the glibc headers. this was the same problem noticed in dpkg 1.6.10. i just commented out the redefinition of ERR in

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 02:22:10AM +, Edward Betts wrote: I thought the plan was to drop support for ISA VGA cards in 4.x, so people who want to keep using old hardware HAVE to stick with 3.3.x If so, that's news to me and I've been following the XFree86 developers' list for months.

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Sven LUTHER
Hello, Nice to hear about the future 4.0 plan. i agree with most of what you propose. I have a question conerning the 3D stuff. Glx will be included in XF 4.0, but this is a point that will most assuredly confuse lots of people. In fact, (if i understood this issue correctly, which i am still

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 10:47:51PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: You are going to keep /usr/X11R6 for this release right? I guess that the XFree86 people might get a bit irritated if you tried to drop it. Actually, I've evilly been toying with the idea of #defining ProjectRoot to /usr for

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 10:47:51PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: You are going to keep /usr/X11R6 for this release right? I guess that the XFree86 people might get a bit irritated if you tried to drop it. Actually, I've evilly been toying with the idea of #defining ProjectRoot to /usr for

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Edward Betts
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 02:22:10AM +, Edward Betts wrote: I thought the plan was to drop support for ISA VGA cards in 4.x, so people who want to keep using old hardware HAVE to stick with 3.3.x If so, that's news to me and I've been following

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:59:20AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote: Commercical packages I use assume existence of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults (not to mention /usr/X11R6/include and /usr/X11R6/lib). Sorry, dude, upstream already kicked over the table on that one. It is now

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:59:20AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote: _please_ don't do it. It will be utterely confusing to find everything in a new place. As a person who does X development writing -I/usr/X11R6/include is an idiom. So as for many people. /usr itself is cluttered more then enough.

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 08:20:48AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:59:20AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote: _please_ don't do it. It will be utterely confusing to find everything in a new place. As a person who does X development writing -I/usr/X11R6/include is an idiom.

So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-12 Thread Branden Robinson
I have been getting a fair amount of mail about this so I thought I would mail two of the most widely-read lists Debian has. Hopefully folks will agree with me that XFree86 4.0 support has ramifications for both users and developers. I don't subscribe to -user, so I will not see replies posted

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-12 Thread Branden Robinson
Today's news flash: omitted words can really change the meaning of a sentence. On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:16:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: They're not available yet, so I am sending this message to apprise Debian users my fellow developers of the situation. ...users AND my fellow