Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Quinson
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common reference area? Who should I talk to about this? Please check

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:46:23AM -0700, Martin Quinson wrote: On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Well, since there are these other issues being raised (specificcally, the concern that GFDL may not meet the DFSG [I happen to disagree with that statement, for what that counts for]), we should wait for the dust to settle down before

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:36:28PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: 3. I placed my book under this license with the express understanding that it was considered free. Now I'm hearing noise that this is a non-free license. While I disagree,

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Thomas Hood
Dale Scheetz wrote: So, in fact, both of these licenses are non-free, as they contain clauses that can be used, and will be considered non-free. Your objection is true of the OPL, but RMS argues http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200111/msg00017.html that that is not true

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Craig Dickson
begin Dale Scheetz quotation: On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Branden Robinson wrote: As usual, this issue has been beaten to death on a list you don't read. Please review the archives of debian-legal for the past several months. In a nutshell: 1) The current version of the GNU FDL is

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:12:06PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: So, in fact, both of these licenses are non-free, as they contain clauses that can be used, and will be considered non-free. It is software that is or is not DFSG-free, not licenses. The simple fact is, a work licensed under version

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Alan Shutko
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find it ... foolish to declare a license to be free IFF some clauses of the license are not exercised. Using this language, any proprietary license becomes free as long as none of the proprietary sections are inforced by the author... The license is

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lun 08/04/2002 à 19:12, Dale Scheetz a écrit : So, in fact, both of these licenses are non-free, as they contain clauses that can be used, and will be considered non-free. I find it ... foolish to declare a license to be free IFF some clauses of the license are not exercised. Using this

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Dale Scheetz wrote: So, in fact, both of these licenses are non-free, as they contain clauses that can be used, and will be considered non-free. I find it ... foolish to declare a license to be free IFF some clauses of the license are not exercised. Using this

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:50:21PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: A work licensed under GNU FDL, version 1.1, which consists entirely of Invariant Sections either has no license or is wholly unmodifiable. Most people on debian-legal agree that this renders the work DFSG-free.

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il dom, 2002-04-07 alle 05:06, Joseph Carter ha scritto: On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of Dale the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put Dale a copy of this license into the common reference area?

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common reference area?

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of Dale the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put Dale a copy

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:00:37PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common reference area? Who should I talk to about this?

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:36:28PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: 3. I placed my book under this license with the express understanding that it was considered free. Now I'm hearing noise that this is a non-free license. While I disagree, that is often irrelevant. 4. If we still

The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common reference area? Who should I talk to about this? Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of Dwarf's Guide to Debian GNU/Linux

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-06 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common reference area? No, it would be premature. There's a draft for a

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license into the common reference area? Who should I talk to about this? Why put a

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of Dale the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put Dale a copy of this license into the common reference area? Depends. Would you say that at least 1% of