Re: Upgrade troubles with Perl

2014-05-14 Thread Christoph Biedl
Paul Wise wrote... On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Christoph Biedl wrote: In 5.18, upstream decided to discourage usage of smart matches and given..when after these have existed since 5.10 (or: more than six years) by marking them as experimental, and did this in a very harsh way.

Re: Upgrade troubles with Perl

2014-05-14 Thread Niko Tyni
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:33:58AM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: Second, there's a regression in the handling of in-memory file handle. Broke my code when giving it a first try on jessie. And I am still *very* upset why #747363 should be anything below RC. I find arguments about bug severity

Upgrade troubles with Perl (was: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-13 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:57:03 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I could not agree more. In our enterprise environment, I have no expectation at all that systemd will cause us significant trouble on upgrades. Our troubles have centered things like grub1 to grub2 or, indeed, new PHP and Perl

Re: Upgrade troubles with Perl

2014-05-13 Thread Christoph Biedl
gregor herrmann wrote... Which kind of problems did you see with new Perl versions (I could imagine incompatible old third-party software), and is there something the Debian perl maintainers and/or the Debian Perl Group can do to improve the situation? At first I was about to say those who

Re: Upgrade troubles with Perl

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Christoph Biedl wrote: In 5.18, upstream decided to discourage usage of smart matches and given..when after these have existed since 5.10 (or: more than six years) by marking them as experimental, and did this in a very harsh way. This will drive me away from