Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-22 Thread Uwe Hermann
Hi, On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:36:35PM +0300, Linas ??virblis wrote: Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was not an option when there actually was no alternative to it, so why is it an option

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-22 Thread Eric Dorland
* Uwe Hermann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:36:35PM +0300, Linas ??virblis wrote: Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was not an option when there actually was

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-18 Thread Bernd Schubert
posted mailed Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not yet been able to get them build on Debian. Actually I didn't

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-15 Thread Bernd Schubert
Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:06:59 +0100, Peter Collingbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server)

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not yet been able to get them build on Debian. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, [UTF-8] Linas Žvirblis wrote: maybe not with a so nice UI than vmware, but that is definitely writeable IMHO. That is being worked on as I type this. OT, but does anybody know whether I can operate on VMs in VMware without this fancy UI? I just want to turn on two VMs

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1155469573 past the epoch, martin f krafft wrote: Why don't those that want to work with QEMU do that, and those who want to work with VMware worry about its packaging? I can't believe we're having this discussion anyway. It would make sense for each team to keep an eye on what each

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:59:57AM +0100, Peter Collingbourne wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Sunday 13 August 2006 09:18, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: * using snapshots and clones based off them are quite useful Lvm snapshots work just fine. You've obviously never run VMware if you think that an LVM snapshot is a replacement for a VMWare snapshot. It leaves me suspicious that

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:06:59 +0100, Peter Collingbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.08.13.0125 +0100]: I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Peter Collingbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.08.13.0106 +0100]: I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006, Peter Collingbourne wrote: I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and vmware-modules-source packages based on an

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Loïc Minier wrote: Would be nice if we could go as far as shipping binary packages for e.g. vmware-player, as Ubuntu does: Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was not an option when there

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Francesco Pedrini
Alle Sunday 13 August 2006 04:06, Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto: What you mean is vserver and even more so xen. I hear with the latest versions you can even run windows in xen. You can do that only if your CPU is enabled with VT/Pacifica virtualization technology. Regards, Francesco --

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Linas Žvirblis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.08.13.1236 +0200]: I know that QEMU Accelerator is not distributable, but providing a sort of an installer (or even asking an author for a permission to distribute) should not be any harder than providing an installer for VMware. Both need to

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Adrian von Bidder wrote: vmware QEMU: * is quite fast Quite fast with the accelerator module. There is also full virtualization mode, that can be used with certain operating systems. * does suspend/resume quite beautifully It can save memory state and load it later on startup. * the

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le dim 13 août 2006 15:24, Adrian von Bidder a écrit : On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them.

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Pierre Habouzit wrote: maybe not with a so nice UI than vmware, but that is definitely writeable IMHO. That is being worked on as I type this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Peter Collingbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and vmware-modules-source packages based on an

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Sebastian Harl
Hi, vmware QEMU: I really don't get this (type of) discussion... Some people prefer qemu, some others vmware, still others prefer foo. There is vim available from Debian repositories as well as emacs. You can install KDE as well as Gnome, fvwm, ... why not provide qemu as well as bochs as

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sebastian Harl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.08.13.1658 +0100]: There is vim available from Debian repositories as well as emacs. Yes, but emacs will be removed. (this is a reply-to experiment) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f.

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 13, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you aren't running windows then xen is your free alternative. If you need windows then you need a recent cpu for xen+windows. I always love when somebody knows what I need... -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital

VMware packaging

2006-08-12 Thread Peter Collingbourne
Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and vmware-modules-source packages based on an installation tarball (a la java-package).

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-12 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server and vmware-modules-source

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-12 Thread Peter Collingbourne
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-12 Thread Francesco Pedrini
Alle Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit ha scritto: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : Dear all, I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create a tool that will build (for example for VMware