Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 21.04.02 um 16:08:17 schrieb Emanuele Aina: Someone (I don't remember who) said that odd numbers are better than even numbers, because summing or multipling even numbers you can only get even numbers... Multiplying odd number always gives odd numbers. Not much gain. Bye, Mike -- |=|

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-21 Thread Emanuele Aina
Patrick Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] esultò: And the SUM of the numbers in the version number is also an even number!!! Sorry, but you are able to get a *odd* number summing only *even* numbers? :-) Someone (I don't remember who) said that odd numbers are better than even numbers, because summing

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-20 Thread Patrick Ouellette
And the SUM of the numbers in the version number is also an even number!!! On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 07:52:57PM +1000, Brian May wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:52:57 +1000 From: Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again Mail-Followup

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-19 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:16:49PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance I see your irony detector is as non-functional as ever... :) Oh it works just fine. It just _had_ to be said, sooner or later -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:28:50AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Other platforms aren't nearly as significant as i386 (not many users, no much new hardware). You're arrogance makes me wonder if George W. Bush is related to you. Hehehehee... Lasse, I guess if the other platforms aren't

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Ari Makela
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:14:15AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: What do you contribute to open source in general? A search of sourceforge and google reveals nothing. Google finds nothing because he's a Finn whose names often have Scandinavian characters. Too many things still break if they

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil. ;-) Damm! Too late to vote for you now... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:56:33AM +1000, Roger So wrote: Why do people like you insists on having the latest version of everything without making sure that it's actually _better_ than what we have? Are you implying that the latest version isn't always the best version? Yeah right! ;-)

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:01, Ari Makela wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:14:15AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: What do you contribute to open source in general? A search of sourceforge and google reveals nothing. Google finds nothing because he's a Finn whose names often have Scandinavian

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Jack Howarth
I agree with Chris it that is insulting for folks to be degrading the other arch's supported by Debian. What is strange is that someone would feel strongly enough about having a choice in operating systems to run Debian Linux yet think that a i386-only world is just fine. The two monopolies go

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread David Schmitt
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 07:52:57PM +1000, Brian May wrote: I need X 4.2 because it... errr... umph. hang on a moment ...because its version number is made entirely of even numbers. ;-) (knew there had to be a good reason). Of course! That's it! The clear truth is revealed!

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:13, Jack Howarth wrote: by forcing Linux and gnu to be more rigorous in programming. The just because it runs on i386 won't cut it with multiple arches and enforces the requirement of clean coding that is processor independent. I've fixed over a dozen bugs in my programs

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-18 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 09:13, Jack Howarth wrote: I agree with Chris it that is insulting for folks to be degrading the other arch's supported by Debian. What is strange is that someone would feel strongly enough about having a choice in operating systems to run Debian Linux yet think that

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Someone said that X is a difficult package to maintain and that there is nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for me, dunno why). Based on that

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Roger So
Tue, 2002-04-16 12:14, Lasse Karkkainen Hi! (it's my first post here) You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it was released. Why do people like you insists on having

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 09:43:51AM -0400, Ashton Trey Belew wrote: Just thought I would pipe in that I am supremely happy with the X 4.1 package. I can only add to the discussion that XFree 4.1 also runs fine with the XFree 4.2.0 server. The server is much simpler to compile (or even NOT

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread David D.W. Downey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 April 2002 00:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably Geforce4 (usable with the nonfree Nvidia-driver on 4.1.*) or some Laptop-Chipset (Savage-something?) Well, so much for me going after 4.2 on my

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:37:11PM -0700, David D.W. Downey wrote: On Tuesday 16 April 2002 00:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably Geforce4 (usable with the nonfree Nvidia-driver on 4.1.*) or some Laptop-Chipset (Savage-something?) Well, so much for

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Jonas Meurer
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it was released. [...] In that case I suggest hiring a paid programmer

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:41:41AM +1200, Corrin Lakeland wrote: Incidentially, Lasse's email did convince me that Branden's job isn't just hard, it is _really_ hard. The idea of having to deal with daily emails like this horrifies me. I can see where his abrasive style comes from ;-)

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:30, Marc Wilson wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:37:11PM -0700, David D.W. Downey wrote: On Tuesday 16 April 2002 00:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably Geforce4 (usable with the nonfree Nvidia-driver on 4.1.*) or some

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 04:46, David D.W. Downey wrote: On Monday 15 April 2002 19:14, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: SNIP stupid shit here /snip Dude, kiss our collective arses. Do yourself a favor. hit http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com and read every fiucking thing on that site, then hit

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread David D.W. Downey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 17 April 2002 03:59, Russell Coker wrote: You didn't use nearly enough obscenity to describe Lasse's behaviour! I didn't want to hurt his little head with all the big words. Also the structure of your message was lacking, you used

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 06:47, Russell Coker wrote: I don't know which sub-version of the GeForce cards I'm using, I just got whatever was cheapest at the time (you'd have to be crazy to buy a high-end NVidia card - they release new models every 6 months and the old models then sell for less

End This Thread Please [Was: Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again]

2002-04-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
Might I point out that Lasse has not replied to any emails since yesterday? I think maybe he's gotten the point, you can stop beating on him now ;-) *crossing my fingers and hoping this thread dies*, Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: End This Thread Please [Was: Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again]

2002-04-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:42:05AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: Might I point out that Lasse has not replied to any emails since yesterday? I think maybe he's gotten the point, you can stop beating on him now ;-) Or he was trolling and he's laughing too hard to type. Feeding the trolls

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread The Doctor What
* Lasse Karkkainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020415 22:04]: Someone said that X is a difficult package to maintain and that there is nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for me, dunno why). Based

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: I recall seeing someplace a document which describes how to add XFree86 4.1's server to Debian's older 4.0.x X packages. A quick google doesn't turn it up, but perhaps if someone has a link to the document it could be generalized and included someplace that users can find

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Xdm doesn't work, but that's the only breakage I've run into. I'm taking a pretty wild guess that you need X because of a bright shiny new card that's only supported by 4.2 ? I ran into the same problem with a new radeon card, and solved it the same, with

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:26:30AM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: I would like to ask you to offer an apology to Brandon, saying that you didn't know that it was a difficult task and maybe say thank you for the work he has done already. But that's your choice. Well, as long as we're in the

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread The Doctor What
* Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020417 14:28]: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:26:30AM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: I would like to ask you to offer an apology to Brandon, saying that you didn't know that it was a difficult task and maybe say thank you for the work he has done already.

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Lasse Karkkainen
That's the result of reading your (=Debian developers') rude replies to very polite questions asked by other people. If you claim that your first post was polite I am truly amazed. It was a very rude and very clueless attack against Branden. You owe him an apology. My message was not meant

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Scott Dier
* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020417 14:29]: this Brandon person is that you're talking about, and what the heck Don't worry, I also had a lapse of judgement eariler in the thread. -- Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ringworld.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:46:54PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Dunno, but I only had to do: 1. Download Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz from ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/binaries 2. Untar over top of xserver-xfree86's files and fix X symlink. 3. Put xserver-xfree86 on hold. It took

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread David D. W. Downey
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:20:00PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020417 14:29]: this Brandon person is that you're talking about, and what the heck Don't worry, I also had a lapse of judgement eariler in the thread. -- Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:16:52PM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:20:00PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020417 14:29]: this Brandon person is that you're talking about, and what the heck Don't worry, I also had a lapse of

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:58, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: That's the result of reading your (=Debian developers') rude replies to very polite questions asked by other people. If you claim that your first post was polite I am truly amazed. It was a very rude and very clueless attack against

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't? He's bck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Russell Coker | Please make amends for your error by flaming Lasse again and doing it | properly. ;) Please excuse David -- he's still in the NM queue and haven't learnt all the flame-throwing tipstricks yet. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't? He's bck. I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil. ;-) -- G. Branden Robinson|

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, David D. W. Downey wrote: No apologies needed, we all know it's his evil twin. *evil* twin? Now I'm scared. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg Marge, this ticket doesn't just give me a seat. It also gives me the right

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: *Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't? He's bck. I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil. ;-) Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance -- Joseph Carter

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:20:24PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: *Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't? He's bck. I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil. ;-) Overfiend this is

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:20:24PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance I see your irony detector is as non-functional as ever... :) -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Please do not look

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Joseph Carter wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil. ;-) Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance Orwellian Love and Tolerance,

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:30:20AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I guess you didn't read my original message: the problem is that I know next to nothing about Debian. Yes, that sums it up pretty well. I'm feeling a bit generous, so I'll hand you a piece of

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Sean Middleditch
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again Date: 16 Apr 2002 06:28:50 +0300 I think your case would be more convincing if you mentioned some particular reason why Debian ought to upgrade. Presumably it supports more cards or something. Having the current version is not super important

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Riku Voipio
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:28:50AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: What comes to encouraging other people - guess what I'm doing right now. No you are definetly not. You are pissing people off. Other platforms aren't nearly as significant as i386 (not many users, no much new hardware).

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:23:27AM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: If you have one of the 3 chipsets only supported in 4.2, there is nothing stopping you from installing that. Except that you are instead mucking around spouting ideas straight from your ass on a mailing list, instead of

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Rich Rudnick
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 21:49, Riku Voipio wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:28:50AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: What comes to encouraging other people - guess what I'm doing right now. No you are definetly not. You are pissing people off. Other platforms aren't nearly as significant

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Lasse! You wrote: You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Congratulations. Now please return to your Redhat box. -- Kind regards, +---+ | Bas Zoetekouw

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:01:10AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:30:20AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I guess you didn't read my original message: the problem is that I know next to nothing about Debian. Yes, that sums it up

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Martin Pool
On 16 Apr 2002, Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to cc this to the list.. The message is attached. Here's another clue, for free: when somebody specifically replies to you rather to the list, and points that out in the message body, they probably had a reason. Going back on to

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Ari Makela
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:04:09AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: That's the result of reading your (=Debian developers') rude replies to very polite questions asked by other people. If you claim that your first post was polite I am truly amazed. It was a very rude and very clueless attack

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Wilmer van der Gaast
Lasse, please read the following SlashDot comment written by Branden. It explains why Woody will not come with 4.2.0: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=30663cid=3297389 And now feel impressed by his work. ;-) -- *=-+-__ |[EMAIL PROTECTED]: _ Ugh! Nio2f says

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:23:27AM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: If you have one of the 3 chipsets only supported in 4.2, there is nothing stopping you from installing that. [...] One of them is Matrox's G550, one of them is one or another of the

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 04:57, Jeff Licquia wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 21:14, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Hi! (it's my first post here) You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!)

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Jérôme Marant
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 10:20:16AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 04:57, Jeff Licquia wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 21:14, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Hi! (it's my first post here) You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Peter Mathiasson
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:58:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You are, of course, free to package your own private X system. After all, you seem to think you have a clue about the amount of work that entails. People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well,

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Apr 16, Manoj Srivastava scribbled: Lasse == Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lasse Time to throw some gasoline on the flames ... Branden apparently is Lasse incapable of releasing it. So, I suggest that anyone, with enough Lasse knowledge and TIME, reading this, would

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it was released. so? 4.1 works just fine. Time to throw some

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Apr 16, Andreas Metzler scribbled: Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:23:27AM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: If you have one of the 3 chipsets only supported in 4.2, there is nothing stopping you from installing that. [...] One of them is Matrox's

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 10:20, Russell Coker wrote: Someone as stupid as Lasse is unlikely to live very long anyway. Maybe we need a new sub-distribution, Debian for glue-sniffers? maybe we need to ignore morons like him. I think him getting tens and tens of answers to his stupid mail means

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Will Newton
On Tuesday 16 Apr 2002 4:04 am, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Well, it seems that you almost need 4.2.0 for Woody anyway, if it is going to work with any recent hardware (unless you are aiming for servers only). Or are you going to hack 4.2.0 display drivers into 4.1.0? As it happens 4.2.0 seems to

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:03:47AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Someone said that X is a difficult package to maintain and that there is nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for me, dunno

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Ashton Trey Belew
Hello, Just thought I would pipe in that I am supremely happy with the X 4.1 package. Have a nice day, -Trey pgpT14C75sPP3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:09:55PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: bleeding software. Brandon has added functionality to our X packages Run, Scott :) -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 07:14:39PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: ObPleaseDon'tFeedTheTroll http://www.bofhlet.net/trolls.txt :) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: So, I suggest that anyone, with enough knowledge and TIME, reading this, would volunteer as XFree package maintainer. Doesn't the fact that nobody has openly volunteered to do so indicate to you that there just aren't many (any?)

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 04:32:44PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: bleeding software. Brandon has added functionality to our X packages Run, Scott :) He also misspelled yet emphasized definitely, so I think the fiend will be able to let it slip ;) -- 2. That which causes joy or

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 02:57:52PM +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:03:47AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Someone said that X is a difficult package to maintain and that there is nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to install it from

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-16 Thread Corrin Lakeland
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:49, Riku Voipio wrote: I guess after seeing your messages Branden goes out for a beer rather an opens a editor to serve ungrateful kids. Incidentially, Lasse's email did convince me that Branden's job isn't just hard, it is _really_ hard. The idea of having to deal with

XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Lasse Karkkainen
Hi! (it's my first post here) You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it was released. Time to throw some gasoline on the flames ... Branden apparently is incapable of releasing

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Adam McKenna
ObPleaseDon'tFeedTheTroll --Adam -- Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Thomas Hood
Now you can start bashing me. Since your remarks seem to be deliberately provocative, let me just point out that X is a large package to take care of yet there is reason to think that B.R. will have 4.2 ready before very long, as he has said he will. signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Now you can start bashing me. - Tronic - 4.2.0 doesn't matter, as it's not going into Woody; what needs to be done on the X packages is getting the highest quality packages X packages for Woody, which he is doing just fine.

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Hi! (it's my first post here) Fucking idiot. Yes, I can say that now. I'll only be DPL for another ~20 hours. Here, let me say it again. Fucking idiot. Man that felt good. Ben (not the DPL for much longer) Collins --

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Jason Thomas
better be careful, talk like that will get you re-elected. :-) by me anyway! On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:29:06PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Hi! (it's my first post here) Fucking idiot. Yes, I can say that now. I'll only be

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 21:14, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Hi! (it's my first post here) You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it was released. Time to throw some gasoline

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Lasse Karkkainen
Someone said that X is a difficult package to maintain and that there is nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for me, dunno why). Based on that packaging it during a single weekend should be

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Lasse == Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lasse Hi! (it's my first post here) We can tell. Lasse You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ... Lasse IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE! Lasse Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Scott Dier
* Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020415 21:16]: incapable of releasing it. So, I suggest that anyone, with enough knowledge and TIME, reading this, would volunteer as XFree package Go to hell. Find a bug that is impacting a viable woody release for may1st and *fix* it, or patch it, or

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Scott Dier
* Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020415 22:04]: should be possible. As we are talking about UNSTABLE here, no real testing needs to be done before releasing - that's what the Debian Unstable is for, right? You need to do some serious thinking about time constraints of developers and

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Lasse Karkkainen
Forgot to cc this to the list.. The message is attached. ---BeginMessage--- I think your case would be more convincing if you mentioned some particular reason why Debian ought to upgrade. Presumably it supports more cards or something. Having the current version is not super important in and of

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Lasse == Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely this is a troll? Lasse Nope, I'm for real. Maybe a bit provocative, but for real. No way! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Time to throw some gasoline on the flames ... Branden apparently is incapable of releasing it. So, I suggest that anyone, with enough knowledge and TIME, reading this, would volunteer as XFree package maintainer. Branden's comments suggest

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for me, dunno why). Based on that packaging it during a single weekend Installing anything from source is

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:30:20AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: It's the hardware support. People are getting sick of VGA/VESA. I thought that it would be obvious. Translation: I own one of the umpteen iterations of the Radeon that 4.1.0 doesn't support in a way I think it should, so I'm