Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-21 Thread Thomas Hood
Me: [In the hypothetical case] I write to the maintainer of P but get no reply. After repeating this a few times I (finally!) get a message from the P maintainer... about his having more important things to do than deal with my patch. [...] Frans Pop: Alternative conclusion to this saga...

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-20 Thread Thomas Hood
Russ Allbery wrote: Whenever this topic comes up on debian-devel, the conversation seems to focus on the small minority of maintainers who don't respond to bugs, are still active on their packages, resist any attempt at co-maintainership, and can't be dealt with through the MIA process. Yes,

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 20 March 2006 16:04, Thomas Hood wrote: It might not be so simple. Suppose I have taken it upon myself to push change Foo through Debian. The Foo project requires cooperation from several DDs and at the beginning I can't tell whether I will get that cooperation from all of them.

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 08:29:18AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote: * Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-19 08:06]: The question is if the problems with the patches and the reason for not applying it will be commented, thus giving the author a chance to modify it, or change his approach

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther] I am not saying that there needs to be an immediate response, or all patches need to be applied, but i believe that it is elementary politeness from a package maintainer, to at least aknowledge a patch or bug report when it is submitted. I believe you are wrong. If you are

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-19 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 3/19/06, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Sven Luther] I am not saying that there needs to be an immediate response, or all patches need to be applied, but i believe that it is elementary politeness from a package maintainer, to at least aknowledge a patch or bug report

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:44:05PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Sven Luther] I am not saying that there needs to be an immediate response, or all patches need to be applied, but i believe that it is elementary politeness from a package maintainer, to at least aknowledge a patch or

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Olaf van der Spek] So what do you think about long-term ignored bug reports? Do you think that should not be considered any issue/problem? It is definitely something we should try to address. When I run into those myself for issues that are important to me, I try to contact the maintainer,

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:44:05PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I believe you are wrong. If you are right, then I am a very impolite maintainer, as I have too many packages with too many bugs to look after, so I do not manage to look at, nor