On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 12:45:09PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:30:52 -0700, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So have a note in exim4's debconf which tells the users that, and only
display the note if DEBCONF_RECONFIGURE=1 or $1='reconfigure'.
That is what I did for
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:44:57 +0200, Reinhard Tartler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we cannot expect that, perhaps we should advertise the existance of
those README.Debian files better.
I would be interested in how exim4 can advertise its README.Debian any
better, short paying for google adwords.
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:30:52 -0700, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So have a note in exim4's debconf which tells the users that, and only
display the note if DEBCONF_RECONFIGURE=1 or $1='reconfigure'.
That is what I did for the exim4 package uploaded on Tuesday.
Greetings
Marc
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:05:07 +0200, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In that case, where the problem is that people do *not* read these
files, and dpkg-reconfigure exim4 exits silently without doing
anything, it seems to be ideal.
Explain that please.
Greetings
Marc
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Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:05:07 +0200, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In that case, where the problem is that people do *not* read these
files, and dpkg-reconfigure exim4 exits silently without doing
anything, it seems to be ideal.
Explain that please.
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
how to reconfigure exim4 is one of the most frequently asked
questions on #debian.
How about a simple 'echo' when reconfiguring?
When upgrading/installing the exim packages, users most probably won't
notice this. When a user issues a
sean finney wrote:
funny, i'd have said the ultimate solution was finding a way to make the
users learn about looking at README.Debian :)
I think users can be forgiven not reading every README.Debian in
packages which are installed by default.
--
Jon Dowland
http://alcopop.org/
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Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sean finney wrote:
funny, i'd have said the ultimate solution was finding a way to make the
users learn about looking at README.Debian :)
I think users can be forgiven not reading every README.Debian in
packages which are installed by default.
Not
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Cons: Untranslated message
Pros: less annoying by not interrupting installs and upgrades, easy to
implement
Cons: Can't be easily seen in non-console frontends, dissapears off of
the screen rapidly, etc.
Using echo to inform the user of
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Cons: Untranslated message
Pros: less annoying by not interrupting installs and upgrades, easy to
implement
Cons: Can't be easily seen in non-console frontends, dissapears off of
the screen rapidly,
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Cons: Untranslated message
Pros: less annoying by not interrupting installs and upgrades, easy to
implement
Cons: Can't be easily seen in non-console frontends, dissapears off of
the screen rapidly,
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
My point is that `dpkg-reconfigure exim4` is what users seem to
expect to work (without reading documentation). Therefore I
suggested adding some additional information at the point that
doesn't behave to what users expect. I didn't propose how to
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 22:47:44 +0200, Hendrik Sattler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
/usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.gz:
That is one of the most ignored files on any Debian system.
Users are so incredibly stupid!
Did you miss that exim4 is my package, and that you are pointing me
towards
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:22:05 +0200, Hendrik Sattler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:58 schrieb James Westby:
The default level when doing dpkg-reconfigure is low, so that it wont be
seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they
will be directed to
hey marc,
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:08 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure magically knew that when
configuring exim4, it must actually configure exim4-config.
funny, i'd have said the ultimate solution was finding a way to make the
users learn about
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:23:48 +0200, sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:08 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure magically knew that when
configuring exim4, it must actually configure exim4-config.
funny, i'd have said the
On Monday 09 October 2006 11:32, Marc Haber took the opportunity to say:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:23:48 +0200, sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:08 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure magically knew that
when configuring
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:23:48 +0200, sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
funny, i'd have said the ultimate solution was finding a way to make the
users learn about looking at README.Debian :)
That is, they should be paying more attention to this
Hi,
how to reconfigure exim4 is one of the most frequently asked
questions on #debian.
The reason is that dpkg-reconfigure exim4 is a no-op since exim4 is a
metapackage pulling in the real packages exim4, exim4-base,
exim4-daemon-light/heavy/custom. The correct command to reconfigure
exim4 is
On Sunday 08 October 2006 22:26, Marc Haber wrote:
I'd now like a low priority debconf note in exim4, exim4-base and the
daemon packages which is only shown if the package is to be
_re_configured, and tells people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.
A _low_ priority note probably makes no sense
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:26 schrieb Marc Haber:
how to reconfigure exim4 is one of the most frequently asked
questions on #debian.
The reason is that dpkg-reconfigure exim4 is a no-op since exim4 is a
metapackage pulling in the real packages exim4, exim4-base,
On (08/10/06 22:35), Frans Pop wrote:
On Sunday 08 October 2006 22:26, Marc Haber wrote:
I'd now like a low priority debconf note in exim4, exim4-base and the
daemon packages which is only shown if the package is to be
_re_configured, and tells people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.
A
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:58 schrieb James Westby:
The default level when doing dpkg-reconfigure is low, so that it wont be
seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they
will be directed to the correct package.
The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 11:22:05PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:58 schrieb James Westby:
The default level when doing dpkg-reconfigure is low, so that it wont be
seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they
will be directed to the
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