Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 17:43 +1200, Nigel Jones a écrit : Did you know that all Debian kernels now have SELinux compiled in? Yeah, thankfully, I build my own kernels... It seems that for many people, building your own kernel is still considered as a proof of virility. Great.

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:44:30PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, wrong. completely wrong. in the debian kernel builds (as arranged i believe by manoj), the default option for the selinux kernel module is selinux=0. that

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:08:08 +1200, Nigel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 08/06/05, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Nigel Jones] if coreutils is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the user gets no choice... One think is depending on the library, another is

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:56:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: last time i spoke to him [name forgotten] the maintainer of coreutils would not accept the coreutils patches - already completed and demonstrated as working and

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Nigel Jones
It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, so couldn't it be easier to have a coreutils-selinux package on the side? just like how the kernel team maintain a couple different branches of the kernel at the same time. There are people that *REFUSE* to use selinux

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nigel Jones] if coreutils is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the user gets no choice... One think is depending on the library, another is actually using selinux. Your objection to use selinux might have some merit, but your objection to have a package depend on libselinux1 does

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Nigel Jones
On 08/06/05, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Nigel Jones] if coreutils is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the user gets no choice... One think is depending on the library, another is actually using selinux. Your objection to use selinux might have some merit,

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Nigel Jones | Hmmm, I can see your point, BUT, if a user is not going to use selinux | at all, then what is the use of downloading extra dependencies that | you don't need. I thought that a feature of APT was that it makes you | only download the libraries that you need/use. Yes, and

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:50, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: In RedHat, using selinux is a run time option. If one don't want to use it, all one need to do is update a config file and reboot. I'm sure can get something similar working in Debian. If it's not necessary for basic operation of the

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:50, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: In RedHat, using selinux is a run time option. If one don't want to use it, all one need to do is update a config file and reboot. I'm sure can get something similar working in Debian.

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1=Required, no debian/selinux [all dependent packages e.g. coreutils will be policy violations]. Uhhh, it's the other way around. Get coreutils to Depend on libselinux1 and it'll be brought up to Required

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:44:30 +1200, Nigel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, Where on earth did you get that idea? The goal is to make it _feasible_ for people to run SELinux on Etch by configuring boot so couldn't

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Nigel Jones
On 09/06/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:44:30 +1200, Nigel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, Where on earth did you get that idea? The goal is to make it _feasible_

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050607 02:01]: any progress on making libselinux1 a Required package? the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1=Required, no debian/selinux [all dependent packages e.g

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-07 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:24:31PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: any progress on making libselinux1 a Required package? the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-07 Thread Stephen Frost
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: last time i spoke to him [name forgotten] the maintainer of coreutils would not accept the coreutils patches - already completed and demonstrated as working and sitting on http://selinux.lemuria.org/newselinux - because libselinux1

libselinux1 - required

2005-06-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hi, any progress on making libselinux1 a Required package? the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1=Required, no debian/selinux [all dependent packages e.g. coreutils will be policy violations]. l. -- -- a href=http://lkcl.net

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-06 Thread Stephen Frost
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: any progress on making libselinux1 a Required package? the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1=Required, no debian/selinux [all dependent packages e.g. coreutils