I don't follow this list often.. so you'd have to excuse me. But i read this subject, and i have to tell that i meet Svenl at debconf5 and always i have needed him he has been there. He is a really great/good guy.So i just want to tell, i did not like this subject, topic or thread at all. My
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:24:23AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:28:14PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I was going to make a large answer where i was going to denouse the
inexactitudes and false claims of this clearly inflamatory mail, but i will
refrain from doing
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:28:14PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I was going to make a large answer where i was going to denouse the
inexactitudes and false claims of this clearly inflamatory mail, but i will
refrain from doing so.
I wonder if Steve, and others of the 'esteemed' DDs, is
As much as I'd love to see this thread die, I think the superficially
reasonable (but actually quite ridiculous) suggestion of using killfiles
should be addressed.
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 01:41:42PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
On 17/03/2006 Lars Wirzenius wrote:
pe, 2006-03-17 kello 14:46
Well,
I was going to make a large answer where i was going to denouse the
inexactitudes and false claims of this clearly inflamatory mail, but i will
refrain from doing so.
I wonder if Steve, and others of the 'esteemed' DDs, is following his own
advice, and rereading the mails he writes, and
* Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-19 12:28]:
Anyway, Steve, please try to live up to your own standard, and cut
the ad-hominem attacks out in the future.
Describing the situation as it is perceived by many people doesn't
really count as ad-hominem attacks. Maybe for once you should
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:34:09PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-19 12:28]:
Anyway, Steve, please try to live up to your own standard, and cut
the ad-hominem attacks out in the future.
Describing the situation as it is perceived by many people
On 10595 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote:
There is a difference here though, this is my public process for expulsion,
No, this is a random flamewar on a random list and has *nothing* to do
with any actually running process anywhere.
and i believe i should have the right to be heard.
No mail in
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:07:41PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 10595 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote:
There is a difference here though, this is my public process for expulsion,
No, this is a random flamewar on a random list and has *nothing* to do
with any actually running process
On 16-Mar-06, 21:39 (CST), Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel == Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Daniel The following is technically a well-formed diff:
Daniel --- init/main.c.orig2006-03-15 23:11:48.0 +0200
Daniel +++ init/main.c 2006-03-15
Daniel == Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Daniel The following is technically a well-formed diff:
Daniel --- init/main.c.orig2006-03-15 23:11:48.0 +0200
Daniel +++ init/main.c 2006-03-15 23:12:23.0 +0200
Daniel @@ -653,6 +653,9 @@
Daniel static
Andres == Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andres If I didn't care about etch, I could just as easily sit
Andres back and let Sven do his thing (as I have been doing for
Andres the past few months); however, I would like to see the
Andres release happen. Given the time
Eduard == Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eduard Sven, you have a problem with not having the last word in
Eduard a dispute. If someone hurts you (or even it may _look_
Eduard for you this way while it has not been meant to be
Eduard offensive), you cannot stop and
Samuel == Samuel Mimram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Samuel Sorry for not doing this but this mail made me discover
Samuel you expulsion thing and I wanted to give my public support
Samuel to Sven at least once.
Me too. I have found him to be very friendly and open to discussion
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:34:27PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
I can't help but get the impression Daniel may have prematurely
discounted the patch - admittedly I may not understand the issues
though.
I dismissed the X patch Sven sent me because it was fundamentally wrong.
No amount of changes to
pe, 2006-03-17 kello 14:46 +1100, Brian May kirjoitti:
Would the next step be to ban Sven from participating in our public
mailing lists?
With the understanding that we're now not talking about Sven Luther but
a hypothetical highly abusive person, I wish to ask Brian the following
question: do
On 17/03/2006 Lars Wirzenius wrote:
pe, 2006-03-17 kello 14:46 +1100, Brian May kirjoitti:
Would the next step be to ban Sven from participating in our public
mailing lists?
With the understanding that we're now not talking about Sven Luther but
a hypothetical highly abusive person, I
Jonas == Jonas Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With the understanding that we're now not talking about Sven Luther but
a hypothetical highly abusive person, I wish to ask Brian the following
question: do you think there are any circumstances under which Debian
should be able
On 16.03. 11:07, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:48:38PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
I'm a little sympathetic, because I used to suffer from the same
disease, and I still have the occasional outbreak, but I'm trying
hard, and mostly getting better. I think.
It
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:48:11PM +0100, Samuel Mimram wrote:
Hi,
Andres Salomon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:59:46AM -0500, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Thanks for yours and Ralf's responses. To be honest, I wasn't expecting
anyone to actually say that they *enjoyed* working w/ Sven.
He were slandering somebody and others were listening/reading without
telling him that the behaviour is impolite? Well, then maybe it shows us
all (or at least the readers) in a bad light.
I'm pretty sure Sven recognized himself that he was impolite, but others
certainly made him realize
irc.freenode.net
join channel #debian
- Original Message -
From: Filipus Klutiero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:34:41 -0500
He were slandering somebody and others were
I want to see you leave the Project if the expulsion process of both dilinger
and svenl fails.
Seriously, it's strange that you state that without explanation. dilinger
started a process to expulse svenl.
If the expulsion suceeds, hopefully we'll be coherent and recognize dilinger
for doing
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 04:41:59PM +0800, Ozgur Karatas wrote:
irc.freenode.net
join channel #debian
Please try to stay on topic or at least explain your points.
Anyway, we had enough of 'I don't know Sven really, but I dislike
expulsions, so no' emails for this thread, your voices will all
Having been invoked twice now in this thread, I feel compelled to comment.
I guess that seems to be a common enough weakness in this community, right?
In this case, I feel it's justified to reply to you because you really don't
seem to get why people have a problem with your behavior, and I think
Replying to this since it is addressed to me personally.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 01:48:17AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Do you understand that the fact that you *do* reply to every single message
in a thread is something that makes people not want to deal with you?
Nobody wants to try to have
Hello Andres,
On Tue, 14.03.2006 at 21:01:09 -0500, Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html,
and I have
Filipus Klutiero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Seriously, it's strange that you state that without
explanation. dilinger started a process to expulse svenl.
If the expulsion suceeds, hopefully we'll be coherent and recognize
dilinger for doing something good.
But if it fails, does that make
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:33:00PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On 15 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this:
You did never intent to do so, since you clearly said numerous time
that you where frustrated with the kernel team taking over your work
on kernel-package, and that you put self-compiled
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:39:42PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
So, this expulsion process looks more like a good way to hurt Sven
than anything else. If it fails (hint: it will) Andres will be
kind of singled-out,
and this whole thing will turn into I can't bear this
guy, please kick him
Hello,
I don't beleive feeding this thread more will fix anything regarding the
Sven social issue.
What about killing this thread now?
Let's stop wasting our time and energy now, and go back to work, shall
we?
Best regards,
Alexis.
--
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On 15-Mar-06, 18:07 (CST), An?bal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears as if you're diagnosing svenl with the same disease
that you're suffering.
Is the desease called obsessive-compulsive disorder?
I was using disease in a humorous way, not intending to fall down the
trap
On 16 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:33:00PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On 15 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this:
You did never intent to do so, since you clearly said numerous
time that you where frustrated with the kernel team taking over
your work on
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:18:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
When I tried to open a dialogue, I was told that kernel
package was crap, it was broken shit, and I was lucky that people
had not yanked it out of the dependencies of the official packaging.
Not a very conducive
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:57:42PM -0500, C Shore wrote:
Abstract
Thanks for your message, this indeed sums up my feeling very well.
As for mediation, seeing the thing go into an impass, i asked Andreas Barth
(on the technical comittee) to mediate on thursday/friday, and went into
offline land,
On 16 Mar 2006, Alexis Sukrieh uttered the following:
I don't beleive feeding this thread more will fix anything regarding
the Sven social issue.
What about killing this thread now?
Let's stop wasting our time and energy now, and go back to work,
shall we?
The issue is whether or
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:39:42PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
[...]
In the meantime, we are wasting precious DD and DAM time to satisfy
Andres' need for a revenge on Sven.
*Sigh*. This has absolutely *nothing* to do w/ revenge on Sven. Sven
himself has stated that he doesn't understand
Hi Pierre,
just so that we are clear, I consider your first mail a personal insult
already, especially given that your decision is based on irc logs.
dilinger's proposition is certainly personal, as it targets only Sven
and fortunately not the whole Project. It doesn't have to be an insult
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:58:29PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Eduard == Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eduard Sven, you have a problem with not having the last word in
Eduard a dispute. If someone hurts you (or even it may _look_
Eduard for you this way while it has not
Daniel == Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Daniel However I don't think you'd be right to hold a grudge
Daniel against anyone who refused to apply it. If Matthew raised
Daniel some issues with your patch, why did you not fix them?
Daniel Surely removing a debugging printk
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
then a week later
publically insults/taunts a developer (one of the Release Managers,
even),
Oh, how impertinent. He dared to insult an official Debian God!
Aghast, Frank
--
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f.
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2) Yes, I have tried talking to him. After a number of blowups on the
debian-kernel list, myself and a number of kernel team members have
talked to him to calm him down (and in some cases getting him to
apologize). The behavior he displays happens
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:48:11AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2) Yes, I have tried talking to him. After a number of blowups on the
debian-kernel list, myself and a number of kernel team members have
talked to him to calm him down (and in some cases
Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 03:01, Andres Salomon a écrit :
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html
, and I have already completed step 1.
I strongly
On 3/15/06, Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 03:01, Andres Salomon a écrit :
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
Le mardi 14 mars 2006 à 21:01 -0500, Andres Salomon a écrit :
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project.
If this is a joke, it's not funny. I happen to prefer Andrew Suffield's
humour.
--
.''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\
: :' :
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know Sven may sometimes be a bit overpresent in some trolls, he also=20
may answer too quick, without having read the mail he answers to=20
correctly enough. But AFAICT, I've always seen him apologies when he=20
did so (I can provide links if you
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 05:00, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know Sven may sometimes be a bit overpresent in some trolls, he also=20
may answer too quick, without having read the mail he answers to=20
correctly enough. But AFAICT, I've always seen him
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006, Andres Salomon wrote:
Hi,
Hi!
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project.
Hahaha oh wow. You got it the wrong way, you should only do that
_after_ someone posts http://zoy.org/~sam/ftwcal.jpeg to d-d-a. Now I
have no
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:01:09PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html,
and I have already completed step 1.
This
Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your accusation fails to allege sufficient facts to constitute
an allegation of defamation.
The facts have previously been discussed elsewhere. I replied merely to
point out that Sven does not always apologise for his behaviour.
Rather than wasting list
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:25 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 03:01, Andres Salomon a écrit :
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
On 3/14/06, Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html,
and I have already completed step 1.
[ Andres,
#include hallo.h
* Andres Salomon [Tue, Mar 14 2006, 09:01:09PM]:
harm upon another developer in a public forum, and then a week later
publically insults/taunts a developer (one of the Release Managers,
even), behind his back. This is incredibly childish, aggressive
behavior, and should not
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project.
I want to see you leave the Project if this expulsion process fails.
JB.
--
Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Public key
* Andres Salomon [Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:01:09 -0500]:
Hi,
Hi. FWIW:
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project.
I've never worked closely with Sven Luther, but I've lurked in some
teams he's member of, so if my capability as an observer is
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:01:09PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined here:
The DAM has accepted the request; please send seconds directly to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], cc'ing me as well.
For the people who seem to think that there are more constructive ways
of dealing w/ this issue rather than the expulsion process:
http://squishy.cc/svenl.txt
This is a lot from two weeks
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 12:29:49PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project.
I want to see you leave the Project if this expulsion process fails.
There's a defined process to
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:01:09PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
Some might argue that we should just kick him from the channel and
remove his commit access to the debian-kernel project, but that does not
solve the problem of him abusing other teams, as well as his abusive
mailing list posts.
Pierre Habouzit writes:
I strongly oppose to such an expulsion.
So do I.
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Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 15:05, Andres Salomon a écrit :
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:25 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 03:01, Andres Salomon a écrit :
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther
removed from the project. The process is outlined here:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 01:00:19PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know Sven may sometimes be a bit overpresent in some trolls, he also=20
may answer too quick, without having read the mail he answers to=20
correctly enough. But AFAICT, I've always
On 15 Mar 2006, Adeodato Simó verbalised:
- I've seem him repeteadly exhaust people's patience, both over
important discussion, and over trivialities; which is, ok,
something not so uncommon in this project, albeit undesirable.
- I've seen him hijack technical discussions, making the
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:56:05PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I was a bit short on you, because you started to make noise about the reason
for the refusal being a #include being wrongly placed in the patch, and a
printk that was not strictly necessary, which i think for someone like you or
the
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 03:56:48PM +0100, Jorgen Schaefer wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:01:09PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
Hi,
I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed
from the project. The process is outlined
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:56:10PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:56:05PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I was a bit short on you, because you started to make noise about the reason
for the refusal being a #include being wrongly placed in the patch, and a
printk that
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 03:47:05PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
- I've seen him several times reject good or even optimum solutions
to problems, upon which a fair number of other people agreed, just
for them going against his own personal agenda; which is, oook,
something
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:26:07PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:56:10PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
I hadn't replied to the bug report because I wasn't involved in the
Ubuntu kernel at the point when it was filed, so I didn't reply there.
When you brought my
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:40:15AM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
The DAM has accepted the request; please send seconds directly to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], cc'ing me as well.
For the people who seem to think that there are more constructive ways
of dealing w/ this issue rather than the expulsion
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:53:04AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I strongly agree that Sven Luther is a disruptive element, and
his presence hurts the project more than it helps. I have found a
pattern of behaviour from him, where any discussion first focuses on
blame allocation,
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:54:58AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:26:07PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:56:10PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
I hadn't replied to the bug report because I wasn't involved in the
Ubuntu kernel at the point
also sprach Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]:
It seems that the project is splitting in two groups basically:
The people that wants to work together and release Etch, and the
people that with a reason or not wants to see it delayed. The
minute after the release team
Adeodato Simó wrote:
I've never worked closely with Sven Luther, but I've lurked in some
teams he's member of, so if my capability as an observer is worth
something to you, you may be interested in this if you're unfamiliar
with Svenl.
I've led a team that Sven was involved in and I
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:21:09PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I had decided to keep silent for the next few week to let matters settle, but
as you ask directly and i was pointer to your question, i will break that
resolution once,
That resolution seems to have slipped by a mail or two now?
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:26:09PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Adeodato Simó wrote:
I've never worked closely with Sven Luther, but I've lurked in some
teams he's member of, so if my capability as an observer is worth
something to you, you may be interested in this if you're unfamiliar
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 08:08:27PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I am still a bit disgusted of seeing a bug report i provided to ubuntu, with
patch and all the proper research immediately after the breezy beta go
unanswered and uncared for though, so this may color my relationship with
ubuntu, but
On 14/03/2006 Andres Salomon wrote:
Sven's behavior has always been combative (and some might argue
hostile), but this is beyond what is acceptable. He threatens bodily
harm upon another developer in a public forum, and then a week later
publically insults/taunts a developer (one of the
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:17:06PM +0200, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 08:08:27PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I am still a bit disgusted of seeing a bug report i provided to ubuntu, with
patch and all the proper research immediately after the breezy beta go
unanswered and
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:47:14PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
[...]
sarcasm
oh and btw, as you noted it, I attacked you personnaly, maybe you should
begin a procedure to expulse me.
/sarcasm
There's a vast amount of difference between (your) intentional trolling and
unintentional,
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 08:48:48PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:21:09PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I had decided to keep silent for the next few week to let matters settle,
but
as you ask directly and i was pointer to your question, i will break that
resolution
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I strongly oppose to such an expulsion.
It amazes me that people oppose expulsion, but are perfectly happy to
allow the DAMs to decide whether or not a NM is to be let into the
project. Why do we trust the DAM's judgement in one scenario but not
the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Dear Friends,
First of all i apologise for my poor english (portuguese :-))
I follow de dev lists of debian for several months now, my knowlege in
linux whas not so good so i never applyed to be a developper and also
my time isnt much :-(.
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:59:46AM -0500, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
snip/
So far, I have never took the time to study the detail of the expulsion
process, so sorry if this mail is inappropriate. But be sure that I will
do everything I can as a DD to stop Sven's expulsion.
Here another DD
Dear Sven,
So, where do I stand in this expulsion thingy?
So far I've resisted mailing on this thread. My general feelings were very
well worded by Adeodato Simó. However, my name being brought up in your
reply to Joey kind of forces me.
I don't actually think that expulsion is the correct
#include hallo.h
* Sven Luther [Wed, Mar 15 2006, 08:04:50PM]:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:53:04AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I strongly agree that Sven Luther is a disruptive element, and
his presence hurts the project more than it helps. I have found a
pattern of behaviour
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 08:23:53PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
#include hallo.h
* Sven Luther [Wed, Mar 15 2006, 08:04:50PM]:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:53:04AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I strongly agree that Sven Luther is a disruptive element, and
his presence hurts the
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:20:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]:
[...]
I'm asking myself what's behind all that ? Ubuntu ? Probably no.
Subconcious fear to delivery in time ? Probably yes. Stop thinking
about who
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:36:50PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
Dear Sven,
reply went privately, just one comment though
It seems to me that you don't actually enjoy kernel and d-i powerpc work,
but rather see it as an obligation because your business in part depends
on Debian supporting
On 15-Mar-06, 15:40 (CST), Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But do you think that anything i said in those is insulting in some way, or a
reason for me to be expelled from debian ?
No, it's a demonstration of your apparent need to reply to *every*
*single* *message* in any thread that you
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:45:42PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:20:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]:
[...]
I'm asking myself what's behind all that ? Ubuntu ? Probably no.
Subconcious
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:48:38PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 15-Mar-06, 15:40 (CST), Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But do you think that anything i said in those is insulting in some way, or
a
reason for me to be expelled from debian ?
No, it's a demonstration of your
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:48:38PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
I'm a little sympathetic, because I used to suffer from the same
disease, and I still have the occasional outbreak, but I'm trying
hard, and mostly getting better. I think.
It appears as if you're diagnosing svenl with the same
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 11:07:02AM +1100, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:48:38PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
I'm a little sympathetic, because I used to suffer from the same
disease, and I still have the occasional outbreak, but I'm trying
hard, and mostly getting
Coin,
I don't know Sven enought for a comment, but this is the first time i
hear about problems with him.
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Step #2 requires the support of some 15 developers.
This meaning 15 is a representative set of 972 persons (1.5%) not
randomly choosen, which is
On 15 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:53:04AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I strongly agree that Sven Luther is a disruptive element, and his
presence hurts the project more than it helps. I have found a
pattern of behaviour from him, where any discussion first
Hi,
Andres Salomon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 10:59:46AM -0500, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Thanks for yours and Ralf's responses. To be honest, I wasn't expecting
anyone to actually say that they *enjoyed* working w/ Sven. This is making
me seriously reconsider my request; obviously, I
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
also sprach Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]:
It seems that the project is splitting in two groups basically:
The people that wants to work together and release Etch, and the
people that with a reason or not wants to see it
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Marc Dequènes wrote:
This meaning 15 is a representative set of 972 persons (1.5%) not
randomly choosen, which is obvioulsy wrong, and ridiculously small.
What is wrong here, is not even this demand for removal with such a lack
of clear evidence (you can wait for
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 00:59 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:45:42PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:20:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]:
[...]
I'm asking myself
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