* Stephen Stafford [Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:38:52 +]:
I'm not going to upload this before etch (assuming it's even ready
before then - how long is sarge's release likely to be?). Right now I
don't want to make too many uploads of new features...I'd like a release
sometime sooner rather
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:14:08AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Come on! The FHS regulates what normal software can/should do,
partially so that package managers can work reliably. dpkg is the
package manager, thus it is exempt from the FHS.
In fact, I should have been even clearer. The
also sprach Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2004.10.30.0713 +0200]:
Having apt-spy dpkg-divert the file in /usr on install, and
replace it with a symlink to a file in /var/lib, and then update
the file in /var/lib when invoked seems the obviously correct way
to deal with this, no?
Why
Anthony Towns wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:14:08AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Come on! The FHS regulates what normal software can/should do,
partially so that package managers can work reliably. dpkg is the
package manager, thus it is exempt from the FHS.
In fact, I should have been even
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:11:45PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Hi all,
apt-spy and pciutils (and possibly others) contain methods to update
a database integral to their operation.
- `apt-spy update` downloads the list of available Debian mirrors
to /usr/share/apt-spy (see
also sprach Chris Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.29.0823 +0200]:
dpkg should not put files in /usr when it extracts programs either if
/usr MUST NOT BE WRITTEN TO... ;)
Come on! The FHS regulates what normal software can/should do,
partially so that package managers can work reliably. dpkg
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 08:49:54AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Chris Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.29.0823 +0200]:
dpkg should not put files in /usr when it extracts programs either if
/usr MUST NOT BE WRITTEN TO... ;)
^^
Come on! The FHS
also sprach Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.29.1002 +0200]:
dpkg should not put files in /usr when it extracts programs either if
/usr MUST NOT BE WRITTEN TO... ;)
^^
Come on! The FHS regulates what normal software can/should do,
partially
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:44:19PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
Even if the file is updated only by the postinst, it is useful to know
that you can recover a broken system from scratch by having:
* A backup copy of /etc, /var, /home, /usr/local, etc. (but not /usr).
* The list of installed
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2057 +0200]:
You should probably tell us non-chatters what The software is...
I believe the original post had the reference: apt-spy, pciutils,
usbutils, possibly others. Note that usbutils and apt-spy are
already fixed.
--
Please do not
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2057 +0200]:
You should probably tell us non-chatters what The software is...
I believe the original post had the reference: apt-spy, pciutils,
usbutils, possibly others.
The original post
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:28:26AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2114 +0200]:
What software writes to /usr ?
As noted in the OP, apt-spy, pciutils, and probably others.
My apologies, I only just got that post today!
I dived in a little
also sprach paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2114 +0200]:
Are we reading the same policy?
There is only one.
Debian Policy Manual
Chapter 9 - The Operating System
9.1 Filesystem hierarchy
9.1.1 Filesystem Structure
The location of all installed files and directories must
For reference, here are two points that came up on IRC:
- The administrator has no place in /usr, it's the package
manager's domain.
- Tools keep MD5 sums for files installed. When a file in /usr
changes, it is usually an indication of something fishy; thus,
certain programmes
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
For reference, here are two points that came up on IRC:
It's good that you keep us non-chatters informed. However:
- The administrator has no place in /usr, it's the package
manager's domain.
- Tools keep MD5 sums for files installed. When
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.1916 +0200]:
Lastly, the policy promises that /usr can be read-only and
guarantees software to be fully functional.
Now, where is the possible policy bug?
Section 9.1.1 of the policy. The software writes to /usr, which is
to be treated
hey martin,
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 05:47:03PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
- The administrator has no place in /usr, it's the package
manager's domain.
- Tools keep MD5 sums for files installed. When a file in /usr
changes, it is usually an indication of something fishy; thus,
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 07:16:47PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
For reference, here are two points that came up on IRC:
It's good that you keep us non-chatters informed. However:
- The administrator has no place in /usr, it's the package
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:45:15 +0200, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.1916 +0200]:
Lastly, the policy promises that /usr can be read-only and
guarantees software to be fully functional.
Now, where is the possible policy bug?
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.1916 +0200]:
Lastly, the policy promises that /usr can be read-only and
guarantees software to be fully functional.
Now, where is the possible policy bug?
Section 9.1.1 of the policy. The
Martin,
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 07:45:15PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.1916 +0200]:
Lastly, the policy promises that /usr can be read-only and
guarantees software to be fully functional.
Now, where is the possible policy bug?
also sprach Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2104 +0200]:
Again, what's the policy bug?
#277816
vorlon Manoj: it's not a policy bug, just a shitty subject line.
I guess I could not say it better. It's not a bug in the policy,
just a bug according to policy.
--
Please do
Hi all,
apt-spy and pciutils (and possibly others) contain methods to update
a database integral to their operation.
- `apt-spy update` downloads the list of available Debian mirrors
to /usr/share/apt-spy (see #277816).
- `update-pciids` downloads a new /usr/share/misc/pci.ids
I think
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote:
Hi all,
apt-spy and pciutils (and possibly others) contain methods to update
a database integral to their operation.
- `apt-spy update` downloads the list of available Debian mirrors
to /usr/share/apt-spy (see #277816).
-
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