On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:06:17PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote:
Hi Tomas,
Great you like it! Many people are busy working on smoothing the edges
uncovered by all the inflowing bugreports, so the occasional thanks!
is a nice boost to troop morale. :)
I will second the thank you.. I got
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:06:17PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote:
Hi Tomas,
Great you like it! Many people are busy working on smoothing the edges
uncovered by all the inflowing bugreports, so the occasional thanks!
is a nice boost to troop morale. :)
Btw, debian is the only complex
Hi,
Philip Hands:
It seems to me that we could:
Make systemd link runlevel 2 to graphical.target, and 3,4 5 to
multi-user.target, or perhaps in an attempt to be slightly less
confusing to outsiders, how about:
2 5 -- graphical
3 4 -- multi-user
Or we could simply pop
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de writes:
Hi,
Philip Hands:
It seems to me that we could:
Make systemd link runlevel 2 to graphical.target, and 3,4 5 to
multi-user.target, or perhaps in an attempt to be slightly less
confusing to outsiders, how about:
2 5 -- graphical
Hi,
Marc Haber:
Which significantly changes things in Jessie since the majory of
services is still started via the old rcX.d mechanism, and thus
starting to runlevels behaves completely different from what users
expect.
Well, I wouldn't expect runlevel 2 to start a graphical desktop either.
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:09:19 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
Which significantly changes things in Jessie since the majory of
services is still started via the old rcX.d mechanism, and thus
starting to runlevels behaves completely different from what users
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:34:46 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
It's learning and understanding more than just a few bizarre new concepts.
I learned. I (think I) understand. But I do not think these fancy new
concepts are bizarre at all. If anything, they make my
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:36:20 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:34:46 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
It's learning and understanding more than just a few bizarre new
concepts.
I learned. I (think I) understand. But I do not think these fancy new
Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org writes:
...
This is indeed unfortunate. Because runlevel[234] are links to
multi-user.target it means that distinctions between those runlevels are
not preserved. It also means that the ability to differentiate between
graphical.target and multi-user.target
Hi,
Marc Haber:
Updating of such systems has always been a pain, but this time it's
going to be a gazillion times more painful.
Why? (Seriously.)
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:30:01 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
Updating of such systems has always been a pain, but this time it's
going to be a gazillion times more painful.
Why? (Seriously.)
Because this time fixing those things is more than just minor changes
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:08:09PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
And this facing a mostly hostile upstream and a Fedora-Centric
community.
I have observed a mostly hostile Debian community in recent months. I'm not
sure if this jab at Fedora is particularly warranted.
Kind regards
Philipp Kern
Hi,
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
A few hours of reasearch later (which could have been a few minutes if
just the community would have been a bit more helpful) it turned out
they were right: We start kdm via an init script and sysvrc emulation,
and this does actually break
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:55:42 +0100, Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:08:09PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
And this facing a mostly hostile upstream and a Fedora-Centric
community.
I have observed a mostly hostile Debian community in recent months. I'm not
sure if this
Le vendredi 28 novembre 2014, 22:25:28 Marc Haber a écrit :
We start kdm via an init script and sysvrc emulation,
and this does actually break the distinction between multi-user.target
and graphical.target.
Hi,
Here is a native kdm service I'v copied from an other distro months ago;
and used
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:33:08 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt
ans...@debian.org wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
A few hours of reasearch later (which could have been a few minutes if
just the community would have been a bit more helpful) it turned out
they were right: We start kdm
Hi,
Marc Haber:
It's learning and understanding more than just a few bizarre new concepts.
I learned. I (think I) understand. But I do not think these fancy new
concepts are bizarre at all. If anything, they make my life way easier.
If anything, IMHO using words like bizarre isn't exactly
Hello list,
I hope it's appropriate here, I just wanted to say *thanks to
everybody*, in particular the low level package and infrastructure
maintainers for the excellent work they've done.
Yesterday I've upgraded my laptop with quite massive foreign package
sources and installations (qgis
Hi Tomas,
Great you like it! Many people are busy working on smoothing the edges
uncovered by all the inflowing bugreports, so the occasional thanks!
is a nice boost to troop morale. :)
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 02:22:14PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
Allthough apt-get dist-upgrade broke half
On 11/27/2014 09:22 PM, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
Yesterday I've upgraded my laptop with quite massive foreign package
sources and installations (qgis packages, backports, stuff from ubuntu
PPAs, nodejs, a dozen packages from jessie etc.) from wheezy to jessie.
That's probably why you had issues
On Jo, 27 nov 14, 15:06:17, David Kalnischkies wrote:
It's also not the worst idea to remove stuff from third party
repositories before upgrading and only install them again after the
upgrade. This way you can sure that they aren't interfering (something
which can't be prevented and just
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 23:50:08 +0800, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
wrote:
On 11/27/2014 09:22 PM, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
Yesterday I've upgraded my laptop with quite massive foreign package
sources and installations (qgis packages, backports, stuff from ubuntu
PPAs, nodejs, a dozen packages from
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